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Me when I have to interact with a website slowly because my natural rate is too fast and it triggers a bot detection warning

in the case of github you hit the rate limit after 1 query

Happened to my daughter: She's studying abroad, with an English speaking course of mostly non-native speakers (she is also no native English speaker, but has a better command of the language than most Americans). Co-students were actually asking her which AI she was using because her papers were so good...

I spent so much time in academia. A lot of us are trained to make objective and impersonal analysis (such as avoiding the use of personal pronouns "I", "we", "us" etc.), which I did not realise before sounds dispassionate and cold to laymen. Someone asked me if I'm a bot because apparently I sounded like an anime character. A couple of times, I get into arguments because normal folks would accuse me of "yOu aRe mAkInG ExCuSeS tO TyRaNtS!!" for making a realpolitik analysis of a situation (/r/geopolitics in Reddit is heavily derided for this by average Redditors).

Academically trained folks are ingrained to be conscious of bias and rather encouraged to be more descriptive with the analysis, and less with prescriptive. Otherwise we'd get accused of bias. But when academics do voice out their opinions based on evidence and careful study, they'd be accused of bias. I probably don't need to elaborate how often educational institutions are accused of being left or liberal. News flash: academics do not come in with inherent bias towards left/liberal thinking, it's just that their study led them to be more left leaning. Wait until I tell people I am an advocate for a world government by giving UN more power. I might be accused as a globalist bot.

Maybe learn to switch out of the academic style for social media? Like do you include citation footers in texts to your family?
- If by social media you mean the brain rotting, ragebaiting sites like Facebook, X or Instagram, I don't argue on them.
i dislike, but accept, academic style. my argument against it is that the total reliance on passive voice makes research FAR less accessible to people for whom english is a second languange and neurodivergent people. older academics tell me i'm being anti-intellectual. younger academics tell me they don't know what passive voice is and don't believe it exists.
i don't really… know what to make of that divide, if i'm being honest
- That's why you usually have a paper and then a popular media article written based on it that's what people actually see and read.
- my argument against it is that the total reliance on passive voice makes research FAR less accessible to people for whom english is a second languange and neurodivergent people. older academics tell me i'm being anti-intellectual.
  That's fair and completely understandable. One of the major reasons for anti-intellectualism are experts talking down on average people. A lot of experts and academics are typically affluent who hardly have to live with salt-of-the-earth, everyday workers and working class. It's a well-known problem who in academia who scoff at student and laypeople. I am not an academic by profession, although I try to know the audience and talk to their level. But I admit that maybe I have come across as smug before without realising it.
  younger academics tell me they don't know what passive voice is and don't believe it exists.
  I guess the person just have to read academic literatures in their field to get the grasp on how to speak passively. It took awhile for me to master it.
now im curious to hear why world government good actually. i only ever hear why world government bad.

Hear me out: intentional spellign mistakes.

International*
- International House of Fucked Spellings
never. capitalize. anything. unless it's a proper noun then do so out of respect. unless you don't respect the thing and don't want your audience to either. then fuck em
- who do you think i am? a capitalist?

Ellipsis...use ellipsis often. AI seldom, if ever, uses them...So your responses don't have the look and feel of AI.

The last few boomers I work with all message me like that, it's kinda upsetting
I don't know why, but when I see someone overusing ellipses, they immediately seem like an at least 50 year old man who most likely doesn't have a great relationship with their kids to me. This has turned out to be true almost every time.
- oh for me it's usually stoners
it looks like you're having an ellipsis seizure
Ellipsis?
- ... I don't know of a better way to put it man.
- ellipses, if you know the plural better

What an astute observation! You are absolutely right, many people can confuse well written responses as AI and that can be frustrating. Simplifying the language is a great way to make your text seem more personal and human. Let me know if you need help with anything else!

AI slop.
- What an astute observation! You are absolutely right, many people can confuse well written sarcastic responses as AI and that can be frustrating. Let me know if you need help with anything else!

That's why I fill my points with insults and constant profanities. Can't fucken accuse my borderline insane and blatantly violent rhetoric of being bots because im pretty sure my pros are bit shit. Also could a bot do this, you can now feel that post burn sensation on your tongue.

also me when people accuse me of being ai slop for using em dashes just because big tech trained their models by stealing authors work.

There was a comment that was a list of 15 items and some chud called it AI slop. Because it was an organized list?
I like to use em, but I'm too lazy to type them so I just use two regular dashes (--) which I guess I haven't seen an LLM do yet.
Its actually wild to me that people who use LLMs don't edit the output to make it look like it was not generated.
For me, the greatest giveaways are the emojis and bad formatting.
- iOS automatically converts two endashes into an emdash for whatever that’s worth
just swap them out with semicolons; no one knows how they're supposed to work anyway
em dashes are typographical faffery and have always been (in my opinion) a marker of writers who take themselves, and the surface level of their style, far too serious.
just use commas, my friend
- em dashes, en dashes, and commas have different meanings and uses
- Just use commas, my friend
  vs.
  Just use commas -- my friend
  It doesn't work very well.
Teaching myself to stop using the em dash has been a real pain. It helps with the flow of reading particularly when talking about technical content. I've gone back to the semicolon, sadly.
- to quote david herman's michael bolton in office space:
  why should i change, he's the one that sucks

I don't know if I've ever seen a MASH meme, much less with Major Charles Emerson Winchester III. What a time to be alive.

"take these 1970s memes. they were your grandfather's"

The rest of the ironic story...the poster was AI all along. /s

I really wish the anti-ai crowd would just shut the fuck up!

I don't need them to shut up; I just wish they would stop being such extremists.
This is 1960s technology that finally has enough hardware behind it to be useful. Big flip.
I wish the pro-ai crowd had a thoughtful bone in their fucking body. Besides destroying the environment there's a list of horrible problems this shit is causing. How dare anyone care about problems though amirite?
- Yeah that's not actually true though, is it? At least not compared to pretty much any other industry, such as fast food which is thousands, nay hundreds of thousands of times more destructive! If you had any integrity you'd be protesting McDonalds. But insulting a tool make you feel special I guess
- Daily reminder that the carbon footprint was invented by big oil so we'd blame each other. Do what you can for now, but the problem will only be fixed by systemic change that internalizes the cost of pollution.
- ~~And making Lemmy annoying even to not-LLM-users helps how?~~
  Edit: guess we misunderstood each other.
No.
I really wish for the executives pushing AI to be sentenced for life!
No.
Oh good, more anti-human freaks.
- Anti-human? You know AI is a tool used by humans, right? Although I appreciate the enthusiasm you have for the technology we're not yet at the point of true intelligence

that's why i write with the stylistic frustrations that only a human could truly pull off

If this format is original it's genius

I can't verify that it's original, but I've never seen it before.
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/50036571/22391311
What is... "This format"?
- Meme template
Can you explain? Who is this guy?
- That's Major Charles Emmerson Winchester III of course!!
  He's a character from the Korean war comedy "M.A.S.H." where the main characters are mainly doctors, nurses and support staff of a mobile army surgical hospital.
  The major is a physician and from an "old money" family and he's constantly reminding everyone he's better than them, despite not being the best or second best surgeon on the base
- Major Winchester from the TV show M.A.S.H.

Just start quoting Idiocracy

The problem is the slop part my guy. Lmao

If someone thinks your comment is AI, they'll call it "slop" regardless of the actual quality, because they believe it wasn't written by a person to begin with.
- Also "Anything I dont like or agree with is A.I slop"
- If it's slop it's slop. AI is just the excuse.

Yeah-typical-AI_Right guys 💪