6d ago

Sheinbaum rejects US ‘invasion’ after Trump orders military to target Mexico cartels

www.theguardian.com

Mexico’s president says ‘there will be no invasion … it’s absolutely off the table’ after news reports of order

Mexico’s president, Claudia Sheinbaum, has rejected the idea that the US might invade Mexico after news reports suggested Donald Trump had authorized the use of military force targeting drug cartels deemed terrorist organizations in Latin American countries.

“The United States is not going to come to Mexico with their military,” she said during a daily news conference on Friday. “We cooperate, we collaborate, but there will be no invasion. It’s off the table, absolutely off the table.”

The Mexican president said her government had been informed of the executive order but insisted that “it had nothing to do with the participation of any military or any institution on our territory. There is no risk that they will invade our territory.”

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6d ago

Sheinbaum rejects US ‘invasion’ after Trump orders military to target Mexico cartels

www.theguardian.com /world/2025/aug/08/mexico-us-military-invasion-sheinbaum-trump

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6d ago

Sheinbaum rejects US ‘invasion’ after Trump orders military to target Mexico cartels

www.theguardian.com /world/2025/aug/08/mexico-us-military-invasion-sheinbaum-trump

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If he was gonna do it he would have already. This is BS drama trump is stirring up on an international scale to try and get us to stop talking about the Epstein files. RELEASE THE DAMN FILES.
- The 1000 FBI agents are still redacting trumps name from the files, they need more time.
  
  "HOW THE FUCK DID HE END UP IN THAT MANY PLACES!?!?"
- You know what would be an even better distraction? Actually invading Mexico. You're brushing off this threat and not taking it seriously just like the first election as if he can't possibly be serious and no serious person would go along with it anyway. You can't just sloganeer your way out of this. Hitler is telling us he wants to own the rest of Europe and murder all the Jews. The first of the concentration camps are already complete. He has already begun rounding up undesirables en masse, with effective legal impunity. What the fuck makes you so fucking certain he doesn't want to invade France too?! Wake the fuck up.
  
  The first of the concentration camps are already complete.
  The first of the domestic ones. There's still plenty of blacksites all over the world, most notably Salvador, lately.
  I seriously can't fathom how anybody can still say "He's probably bluffing again. It's just a joke."
  
  I think you misunderstood me. I do in fact consider it a very serious threat. In fact basically everything trump does is a very serious threat. That's just reality and I think you and I would both agree on that.
  I want to make one thing clear, I see absolutely no reason to listen to trump, he is at best a liar, a criminal, and a traitor.
  That being said a threat for the sake of distraction, whether empty or not, perfectly fits one of his common propaganda techniques. It would make perfect sense that he is deflecting from something he doesn't want the public to pay attention to, and in my opinion that means the correct course of action(at least for a powerless shmuck like me) is to pay the fuck attention to that thing and to get other people to pay attention to that too. It makes sense that the Epstein files are that thing, since it seems to be one of the only things his base sees as controversial, hence my original comment.
  So well that's currently my plan, you got a better one?
Trump doesn't want to seize Mexico like wants to take Canada because Mexico is full of brown people.
- Wait, you think white people don't want to take over the country full of brown people? How do you think Colonialism works?
  
  And if you need a modern day equivalent, then just look at Gaza
  
  That kind of colony is not financially viable since the 40s-50s. The US wants neocolonies like they have in South America or the Middle East, with a financially, not militarily beholden leadership.
  
  OP’s point still stands. He would neocolonize Mexico but wants Canada as the 51st state
- okay but hear me out
  israel doesn’t want to seize gaza because it’s full of brown people
  and suddenly everything gets so much worse
  mexican cartels are to the US as hamas is to israel - or at least that’s the narrative they’re pushing
  
  The cartels are just becuase Trump doesn't like them
  ugh.
  The Cartels are pure evil, they aren't 'resistance' they're thugs who murder whole families 3 generations down for not paying them bribes.
- Canada is full of brown people too.
  
  Oh I'm sure Trump plans to 'fix' that
  
  Canada is full of brown people...mostly those immigrated recently enough that their citizenship could be declared invalid because 'reasons' and forcibly deported back to their ancestral countries.
- Yeah. Usually one would worry about fascists invading countries with an ethnicity they don't like for Lebensraum, but "fortunately" America has plenty of minorities on its own soil so the Holocaust can be implemented completely domestically.
- Wasn’t this logic used at the conclusion of the Mexican-American war?
- He sure does want to kill us so it is a bit worrying.
Fuck the us army, I hope they lose this war too.
- loosing wars is their thing.
  the US military is there to funnel tax dollars to shareholders so they can funnel a minute fraction of those dollars to lobbying bribes.
  winning wars isn't profitable. long open ended occupations are far more profitable.
  
  You should lead the charge clown. Who is creating the demand for the illegal drug market? There's your root cause.
  
  open ended occupations are far more profitable.
  Ah, one of our major exports: "Occupation as a Service."
One does not invite a Fascist into one's country without losing that country
So if the cartels are operating in Mexico and the United States, and Trump's executive order doesn't involve using the military on Mexican territory, I guess it must be to use the military on American territory?
- Yeah—now military deployments anywhere in America can be excused as part of anti-cartel actions, until they aren’t.
  
  You mean day 1 then?
- And don't forget all the bullshit claims that people with random tattoos were MS-13 members and sent to El Salvador. Now he'll send the army against whatever tattoo he decides he doesn't like next.
- This is what Project 2025 said wasn't it?
- Your logic seems sound.
The cartels are an evil scourge without a trace of humanity. Nothing of value will be lost if they're swept off the board. I hope their buttholes are puckering at the thought of Delta and SEAL teams kicking down their doors.
- The most effective way to dismantle criminal organizations of any nature is not by guns and bullets but by eliminating their markets.
  People resort to drugs out of despair and disinformation. They either want an escape of reality or they want to "have fun" and they disregard or ignore the trap drugs represent.
  Give to people security and a good life, inform and educate them, create safety nets for them to crash when things go wrong and 90% of drug trafficking and related crime just disappears. The other 10% you keep at bay by having good, humane, well trained police, on which the population can trust and rely.
  Going for an all out war on cartels is a nighmare waiting to happen, at your door.
  
  Way to go. I like this take.
  It's become very clear that there is no moral goal behind the "war on drugs." It just becomes a never-ending escalation of cat and mouse, and civilians are caught up in the middle.
  The factions of fear and despair based profit that made everybody miserable enough to give the cartels a market, now are simply mad they're not getting (enough) revenue from that market.
  Conveniently as well, entire industries (many well-meaning) have sprung up around combatting the ravages of addiction, and "because drugs" is a convenient cop-out for pretty much every societal issue, and an expedient paper-thin justification for crackdowns, fear-mongering, and draconian punishments.
  Unlike the rest of us, the powers that be have little to gain from "solving" drugs.
  Instead of reducing the systemic precursors to crime, they would rather instead cut off everybody's arms and merely rent them back to you only while you're clocked in at work.
  
  Sometimes people just take drugs because drugs are fun ... Not all of them are despairing or desperate...
  
  Indeed, the Swiss did it and they were quite successful.
- How would you feel about Mexican military doing operations in the US?
  
  It would ideally be a combined operation, obviously. Mexico either can't or refuses to clean house. If the cartels are spilling over the border then the US has every right to excise them at the source bin Laden style.
- So... about the Zetas...
Once again, Thank You President Sheinbaum!!
My money would be on the cartels if this happened.
It's cute she thinks she has a choice
- you have a choice to resist a foreign invasion.
- The world would be much worse if everybody just surrendered everything all the time
Mexico military is too weak and corrupt, they would loose 1 vs 1 against the US military. The US can easily annex some districts in northern Mexico to form a buffer zone against the Cartels.
- Yeah that works right until China or Russia start arming the Mexican military. We've been supporting Ukraine for years. Russia or China would be more than happy to send whatever arms they can to help Mexico. And it's amazing how effective an active invasion of your nation is with addressing military corruption.
  
  Do you not realize that a world that America starts invading Mexico or Canada, is a world that America is on the same side as Russia?
  behind the curtains, there's already plenty to suggest that they are two allied mafias conspiring to divide and conquer.
  
  nah, I suspect the us also has embedded its best secret services into Mexico to prevent that.
- "1 vs 1" have you ever been outside?
  
  1 vs 4 they would still win
- *lose

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