please wake up

Yeah, that's straight up fraud btw

if they had had an apartment to rent out it would've been totally OK and not fraud and a very normal thing to expect a landlord to do though 😅
No I'm pretty sure that's the guy that loves cocain and wants to fuck his mother
- No, you're thinking of pioneering psychologist Sigmund Freud.
  Fraud is when a rope begins to break one stand at a time
i sue landlords for fraud. passive income.
It's not fraud if you tell the applicant what the rental criteria are and what happens to the money if they are turned down.
In ancient times, I was a small time landlord. On a couple of occasions I asked for an application fee. I followed these rules, which I explained to the applicant:
The application fee was refunded if I turned down the applicant, provided the background check did not disclose a lie on the application.
The application fee was applied to the security deposit if I granted the rental.
The application fee was not refunded if the background check found a lie on the application, or if I granted the rental and the applicant changed their mind and declined to rent.
It costs money to do background checks. I wasn't going to be out of pocket if an applicant was dishonest with me.
- I think you're misunderstanding, the OP here had no intention of renting anything out, they're just taking application fees
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"I have passive income" is literally just "I run online scams".

This is no different from people in places like india doing phone call scams.

Yes that would be the joke.
it's really stretching the meaning of "passive", if you're the one running the scam it's not passive ... by definition passive means you didn't lift a finger, passive income is like dividends on investments.

Application fees? For renting? Man America is cooked.

Don't forget the downpayment and the security deposit and first and last months rent. Oh and if you break the lease you have to pay 4 months rent or the remainder of the rental period, whichever is higher
- Don't forget that your landlord forces you to pay through a 3rd party company that charges a "convenience" fee of ~3% so your $600 rent is actually $620.
  Ask me how I know.
- Add $75 for each pet if allowed! My buddy was apartment hunting recently and was given a rental agreement that said he would have a deductible on repairs and would have to cover anything over $250. The landlord was just looking to scam and sue someone for repairs he had to do to keep up to code. America's cooked indeed.
- Here it’s just a months rent for security deposit and you pay as normal in a rolling monthly contract. The deposit needs to be held in an independent thingie too so they can’t keep it unlawfully.
- First and last month can make sense sometimes, so laws can go "the tenant did pay the last month so you can't suddenly evict them, they still get to live until the month ends because they did paid for it"
Oh yeah super common unfortunately

Lmaooo Dudes, US people have no business making fun of communist if they do things like this. What do you mean you pay for an application for rent a space to living for????

We also sometimes have to pay "pet rent", and no this does not cover pet damages.
- No fucking way this has to be a joke
- You mean "pet tax"

yeah, that's not passive income

Why would anyone want Mao to wake up? The fuck kind of genocide denialism is this?

I think the joke is built on what Mao did to landlords.
Inventing genocides to discredit Mao must be a new one. Liberals are too stupid to level any valid criticism against him huh?
Mao is very popular in the PRC, and among Marxists. The modern CPC recognizes his contributions as around 70% good, 30% bad. The Cultural Revolution in particular is a touchy subject largely seen as a misstep, but certainly not a "genocide" either. Same with famine, which was previously common in China but was only ended by the communists in power.
Mao's popularity stems from establishing socialism in China, successfully kicking out the Japanese imperialists and then winning the civil war against the nationalist Kuomintang, and building up a robust system of socialism in early China, accomplishing metrics like a doubling in life expectancy, large (but unstable, as Deng would later stabilize with socialist market reforms) economic growth, banning footbinding, and more.
Sir, this is lemmy.ml. They think every bad thing you've heard about china is a CIA psyop
- Not everything bad about China is CIA propaganda. They have a long way to go, economically and socially. At the same time, there's factually a large anti-PRC budget for US propaganda, largely stemming from the large amount of friction faced when dealing with a socialist country in the world capitalist market. It's accelerated because the PRC is currently surpassing the US in many key metrics, and is charted to do so in other areas in the coming years.
- Meanwhile .world thinks that literally everything the US says about China is undeniable truth
- not every bad thing but quite a lot of it, yes.
- Which is why we are ready for war with them at a moments notice.
Give same situation and environment to a landlord see how their reign goes.

Americans be like "we're the free-est nation in the world!" then do shit like pay application fees

They're free to choose to pay or not to pay. You don't have rental application fees so you don't have a choice. Your freedom is curtailed!

What if I could earn a passive income by scamming scammers? It would be morally correct?

Yes but they have the funds and connections to absolutely nail you to a cross.
- If they can get enough of them before getting caught it could balance itself out though
Ah, so become the company that sells these background checks?
Yes.

And someone has the audacity to tell me these are people.

I did 97 meth deals ($45 each).

That's $4365 in passive income.

I don't even have any meth and just gave them sugar crystals.

Virtue signaling is a very interesting primate trait. From lying about where you were last night to wearing clothing in the first place, manipulating your status is uniquely human. If dolphins or octopuses made a civilization, this would be unlikely to emerge.

Ever seen Orcas wearing salmon hats?
Hierarchical systems are perfectly normal in social systems. Not in the rigid way your manosphere nutters use it, but it's still a thing!
- Oo, good point. Hierarchy is everywhere in nature, obviously. I was referencing manipulating status.

And $4k is not that much. She does it to survive

Yeah stealing from random people to "survive" is not okay.
This isn't stealing food from a store this is taking money from everyday people's trying to rent an apartment
- Yeah stealing from random people to "survive" is not okay.
  Never said it is.
  My point was to underline that in the current system some people commit fraud not to get rich or even higher than average, but just to survive.
in what world do you live in where $4k is not that much. i make a solid 6 figures and $4.3k is nearly my monthly income after taxes
Firstly, she does it because she's a piece of shit.
Secondly, if it was about survival, like you suggest, then why is she calling it a passive income in such a gloating casual fashion?
Passive income, at least to me, means secondary and unnecessary.
Thirdly, she's a piece of shit.
- Firstly, she doesn't do it, because it's fake.
I mean per month, and assuming not taxed, that's not bad.
- This is literally fraud.
  You'd be stealing from other working class people like you.
- That's not bad but let's face it: this is not good either
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