That's true, but there's also more than a few people around here who will insist they aren't liberals and then when you find out their actual politics they're just New Deal style liberalism
Critism of capitalism and defense of communism is authoritarian to liberals though. After all, to them private property ownership is a human right and not allowing it is an authoritarian impingement on their freedom.
Prior to the twentieth century, are you willing to stand by the human rights record of all (but one or two) liberal countries? Are you even willing to do that today?
What the fuck are you talking about? You understand that different people are different people right? Don't fucking try to vicariously reiterate arguments you're having with other people with me, asshole.
am sure they never would have just evaporated or refused to answer the factual questions I was asking, I am sure we could have come to an understanding since everyone involved in this conversation is super open to factual conversation
So once again you're just damning people by making up unfalsifiable counterfactuals.
People are going to criticise Sanders when he says and does things that deserve criticism. Once again, you have a complete inability to understand being motivated by actual principles rather than cynical realpolitik
The very concept of human rights is a product of liberalism as a political philosophy.
No
You seem to support values championed by liberal philosophers, while also thinking that liberalism is basically satan. Pick a side.
What an absolutely asinine and reductive interpretation of what I said.
I’m anti capitalist
Then you are not a liberal, by definition
I’m nonetheless at least as influenced by liberal thought as I am by socialist thought.
Yes, obviously; socialist thought is directly descended from liberal thought, it is impossible to be a socialist without being influenced by liberal thought.
If you can’t square that that’s worrying, but I’ve spent enough time here.
Notice how all you have is completely unfalsifiable counterfactuals and a complete inability to understand being motivated by actual principles rather than cynical realpolitik
why are we arguing the semantics when we’re both in agreement that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and Israel’s genocide of Palestine are both atrocities that need to be stopped as soon as possible
Because the abuse of semantics and the reduction of terms like genocide to rhetorical snarl words to be recklessly thrown at any enemies has enabled Russia and Israel to do what they're doing with so little push back.
JL banned me from worldnews for reporting a Gaza Genocide denier; his justification was that, because he makes an exception to the rule against genocide denial for Gaza genocide deniers, me reporting them was uncivil and against the rules. They also banned my from politics for "misinformation" because I said Kamala Harris supported Israel.
Oh my God, shut the fuck up you whiney little baby.