what is north?
what is north?
what is north?
Fun fact: I have never actually seen a clip of this with audio, so I always give this guy the Skeletor voice in my head and I just realized he probably doesn't sound like that.
I looked it up. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XdWlWUUYejc
I might have seen it once a long time ago, but I don't remember what he sounded like, so I can't confirm that for you.
Mark here either has poor reading comprehension, or is intentionally being a little shit by cherry picking part of the title and not reading the whole thing.
The location specified is not 'north of Antarctica'.
It is, 'the Weddell Sea, north of Antarctica.'
Giving 'the Weddell Sea' as the location is actually decently specific, and the 'north of Antarctica' that follows is modifying / adding to the description of 'the Weddell Sea'... not the entirety of the location description.
I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is 'not really, no', because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.
Mark, and anyone else who also finds this to be a funny, poignant zinger, need to go back to middle school and relearn grammar.
Weddell sea is good, mentioning Antarctica is good, the word “North” is meaningless in this context which is what the OP is laughing about.
It should probably say, "off the Antarctic coast", or even "X kilometers off the Antarctic coast".
Or - bear with me here - it’s just a funny detail and people are laughing about it. Because any sea is obviously going to be north of it
It is still valid to point out that "north of Antartica" is a silly phrase in context, even though it's fine given the more specific Weddell Sea information. If you did want to help readers know the story based on a more well-known landmark, a less silly phrase would have been simply been "Weddell Sea, near Antarctica".
I'd go with "the Antarctic's Weddell Sea".
Nope. You could as well say: Mediterranean Sea, north of Antarctica.
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The temperature is pleasant, higher than absolute zero.
Doesn't add anything. There are no seas south of Antarctica.
The Weddell Sea, north of Antarctica, brought to you by the department of redundancy department.
I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is ‘not really, no’, because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.
I agree with your overall statement. Just wanted to point out that there are a lot more people than Americans out there.
You're not wrong, you're just insufferable.
Nah, spectral IS wrong. The "complaint" isn't arguing grammar, it's explicitly pointing out that there's a very unhelpful couple of words in the sentence.
The sentence "I live north of Antarctica." gives you basically zero information but is perfectly grammatically correct.
The line may as well have been "The weddel sea, which is made of water,..."
Yup, by naming Wedell, they located it quite well; there are 13 small named seas completely encircling Antarctica. By naming any of them, you can reasonably locate (to any point that matters to dear reader) the wreck
Sure, if you happen to already know where the Wedell Sea is or if you look it up it you can reasonably locate it, in which case adding the "north of Antarctica" part is superfluous. But if you don't already know where the Wedell Sea is, adding in the "north of Antarctica" part doesn't actually narrow it down any, which is why it's a funny thing to point out.
If they had wrote "just north of Antarctica" or "off the coast of Antarctica" or "near Antarctica", that would have narrowed it down significantly.
Now that I have thoroughly explained the joke, I imagine it's much funnier now.
I'm sure that "Mark "Three-Jabs" Newton" and the rest of us who found this funny were able to deduce from the context that is actually what the writer meant . That isn't what they actually wrote though so "sp3ctr4l" is not only incorrect in asserting that Mark has "poor reading comprehension", he is also wrong that 'reading the whole thing' would have clarified things and was extremely condescending about his incorrect statement at the same time, which makes him kind of an ass imo.
He was correct that Mark was "intentionally being a little shit" so 1 out of 3 wouldn't have been so bad if he weren't such a douche about it at the same time.
You better believe I'm here for this squabbling
A 6th grader’s literacy level means they can write a book report.
Prime "AKSHUALLY" moment.
If "north of Antarctica" isn't enough to narrow it down, here are a few tips: it's also south of the Arctic, further from the Sun than Venus, closer to the Sun than Mars. Now it's easy to find it!
We don't talk about what's South of Antarctica
You mean beyond the ice wall that marks the edge of the disc? We're not allowed to know /s
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Here I’ll help, it’s also south of the North Pole.
And west of the equator.
Top left corner is the Weddell Sea so we know it’s somewhere in that direction
everybody know "top-left" means north-west ! just say that !
Just in the South of the Arctic
I can construct a weird true statement from this: All continents besides Antarctica are located North of the South-Pole.
Technically, almost all of Antarctica is located north of the south pole
If the south pole is a point, then it has no surface area, so the entirety of antartica is located north of the south pole
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A bit damp, but no complaints. Considering a new career distributing swords.
Are kids today so Vine-brained they don't understand headline syntax? The Weddell Sea just north of Antarctica.
For further clarification:
The Antarctic Peninsula(the long bit sticking out) is the furtest part away from the south pole in the antarctic and is thus the northernmost part, and is generally considered to be the "north" when using cardinal directions there. The Weddell Sea is off the coast of the peninsula.
And is part of the southern ocean, to make it real clear
The entire Weddell Sea is just north of Antarctica. That's where the Weddell Sea is. The problem is that everything near Antarctica is just north of Antarctica, including things on the complete opposite side of the entire continent. It's just a way of saying near Antarctica that sounds like you're giving more information than you really are.
We all probably understood that's what they meant but it's funny and not super clear. "The Weddell Sea just north of Antarctica." or "The Weddell Sea near Antarctica." work much better.
"off the coast of" is the phrasing I would have used. I've honestly never heard of the Weddell sea until just now.
Yeah, you're right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weddell_Sea?wprov=sfla1
Headline syntax sucks.
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I can specify: south of the arctic.
Of course they aren’t going to give the exact location. That wreck would be ransacked for scrap metal if it isn’t resting too deep. Like in Indonesia several WW2 shipwrecks have gone missing.
a fun fact about this, by the way
the reason we scavenge steel from old shipwrecks is because all modern peoduced steel is contaminated with a miniscule - but still present - amount of radioactive isotopes, incompatible with some incredibly precise scientific instruments and other nieche, but essential applications, that not only require old steel, but old steel that wasn't exposed to all the radioactive fallout during the nuclear tests in the cold war, hence why the sunken ships.
adding a personal note here, if some nuclear tests around the world contaminated everything THIS MUCH, what will we say about microplastics in a couple decades? just food for thought
3000 meters is pretty fucking deep.
Like - 6 times deeper than the deepest hardsuit dive in history.
There's only a few ships in the world that can salvage at that depth, and they're not fly-by-night pirate operations.
most probably between southamerica and antartica.
See that actually does narrow it down
Near the British Empire then.
It's like a basic reading comprehension thing....
The ship is located in the Weddell Sea, which is north of Antarctica.
they're saying everywhere outside Antarctica is north of Antarctica, so that doesn't add anything. it's deliberately obtuse for humorous effect. basic joke comprehension should be a thing.
Or south from the Equator line.
I don't know where his ship is, but the man had great taste in blended Scotch! If you run across a bottle of Shackleton in your local liqueur store, buy it.
Better north of antarctica than north of arctica.
Don't be too hard on them, they're new.
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I appreciate the "perhaps", like, the headline qualifies how annoyed they are at imprecision.
Anyway this turns only absurd if it referred to the exact pole, geographic or magnetic, but not from the continent as is.
I'll have to use that one.
Narrowed it down to a single planet.
narrowed it down to 95% of a single planet!
If you exclude the landmass you narrowed it down to ~70% of a single planet.
What a shame. A wreck on another planet would have been way more interesting