Musician Who Died in 2021 Resurrected as Clump of Brain Matter, Now Composing New Music
Musician Who Died in 2021 Resurrected as Clump of Brain Matter, Now Composing New Music
Using the DNA of the late musician Alvin Lucier, a team has created an "in-vitro brain" that still creates music with its electrical signals.
Stem cells were grown and then connected to brass plates.
Black Mirror. Should. Not. Be. A. Roadmap.
Cunk on Earth also did a similar bit with Beethoven.
Does Charlie Brooker have some kind of enchanted typewriter that can influence the world or something?
That's a pretty misleading headline. The news article is about a cool art installation, in which an artist has used a deceased composer's DNA to produce electrical signals that are interpreted as music. Still cool, but it's not "composing music" in the same sense as the alive musician was composing music.
It's about as close to composing as transcribing the twitches of someone with Parkinson's.
About as respectful as well, if the researcher is the person characterising this process as composing.
It seems to be the journalist presenting it as such, but in any case, I don't think the artists are suggesting it's equivalent to what the guy made when he was alive. It's an interesting artwork riffing off of the fact that the person whom the DNA belonged to was a musician. That also seems like a pretty disrespectful way to talk about people with Parkinson's.
I hope to all holy fuck it’s not conscious.
"I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream"
Don't worry too much, it's not even part of his actual brain. It's a bunch of random brain cells grown from a DNA sample.
If we could make new conscious lifeforms from this, Blade Runner would be a documentary already.
according to the article it's a tiny smattering of brain cells grown from stem cells derived from his blood, which he donated before he died specifically for this experiment. it is in no way conscious.
We'll never know until it starts multiplying rapidly and breaks out of the lab.
Henrietta Lacks hasn't managed it yet. Look her up. It's at least as bad as this if not more so.
"Yet" being the operative word here. There's a disease in dogs that started in some very similar circumstances (although happening in nature rather than from a science accident). One slip-up from an immunocompromised tech with just the right genetic make-up and it begins.
Some brain cells cobbled together from stem cells that have his DNA. None of the life experiences that made his music. You could likely get similar results with the same technique using the DNA of any random person on the street.
Even Abby Normal?
You're telling me you used an Abnormal brain?
Quite the exaggerated headline from the look of it.
Yeah, I always want to clean up the headlines, but apparently it's against the rules.
They grew a brain organoid from his donated blood white cells that they turned into stem cells. The brain organoid produces electric impulses because that's what brain cells do. They made something artsy out of those impulses. So it's completely unrelated to whatever experience the musician could have had. DNA doesn't store acquired skills nor life memories. They could do that with anyone's cells and probably get a similar result.
Yeah, this was cool until all the steps show it's not "his brain". It's a genetic facsimile.
Not even a facsimile, just a thing which shares the same genetic code and doesn't resemble his developed brain in any but the most basic ways.
. DNA doesn’t store acquired skills nor life memories
Assassin's Creed wouldn't lie to me would it?
The hard truth is that there are a lot of completely un-empathetic scientists out there.
Some of the shit I saw them doing to animals when I worked for Baxter still makes me sick when I think about it. And I only had to go into that lab a couple times.
It's just a few cells they created on a mesh, it's not like they're using a hunk of his brain.
Yeah and it was just a bunch of sedated live rats pinned to little trays with their brains exposed and a bunch of shit stuck everywhere into their bodies that I had to see while working on the lab computers.
I'm not going to get into an argument about whether there's value in animal research (I think there is) but there's some horrifying shit that comes with it, and I'm just pointing out that I've directly worked with plenty of scientists that are completely unfazed by that shit. So while it may be a few cells on a mesh now, they won't stop at that.
More like 'decomposing', amirite, guys?
Read it the first time as "composting"
Shhhh! Don't interrupt him, he's decomposing.
This sounds like chatGPT with extra steps and body horror.
My Ashley O. doll is starting to glitch out a little. Should I be worried?
I genuinely thought this was an Onion headline.
Storm of lying clickbait titles today.
nervous laughter
I notice they didn’t say it was any good.
The original musician was crap, so it tracks.
i would not call Lucier a musican, but i do find some of his sound art interesting. 'I am sitting in a room' can be kinda meditative in an interesting way
One day we will have the means to reverse every death
Has anyone seen the show “Pantheon“? This is getting close to it.
What could go wrong? /s * anguished screaming SFX *
