Funny, those guys don't usually agree on that much

You can tell this was made by a salty neo lib

Do you know what the word 'liberal' actually means

I'm on the left, but I'm far from a communist, much less an authoritarian one, and I 100% use lib or liberal as an insult. I think to most people younger than 50, Liberal refers to a certain type of Democratic voter. They'll hang a BLM sign in their window but support NIMBY policies that keep people of color out of their neighborhoods. They'll talk a good game about labor rights and unions, but still go to Starbucks and throw a shit-fit if their order is wrong. They cared very deeply about Iraq and Guantanamo when Bush was President, but stopped bringing it up once Obama was in office.

The Third Way Democrats of the 90s basically turned American Liberals into Neo-Liberals. I will still support them when I have to, since they hold all the levers of power over the only ostensibly progressive party in America, and not siding with them at this point basically ensures the rise of fascism, but I have no love for Liberals.

don't usually agree on that much

Where have you been the last 8 years

Yes, leftists absolutely know what the word "liberal" means. It refers to a pro-Capitalist ideology centered around the idea of individual freedoms via private property rights.

Leftists disagree that allowing private property creates a freer population, and understand that Liberalism is the dominant ideology in developed Capitalist nations.

Lmao check out all the salty libs seeing themselves get called out in these comments.

• sincerely, an anarcho-syndicalist

They agree on a lot more than you'd think, once you parse out each cult's different groupspeak

Software developers are staying silent on this one.

I 'am' an anarcho-communist and I don't like libtards. Libtards to me are 'progressive capitalists' that have no systemic insight what so ever and think all it takes to bring upon heaven on earth is to try and be nice.

I mean, you should try and be nice obviously but you are not going to soy latte your way outta this my dudes.

Lib bashing in left spaces is the mating cry of the tanky

It might be cathartic every so often, but too much makes the wrong people feel safe.

Republicans are also liberals. At least in the true sense of the word. So it's low-key funny when they use the term liberal as an insult.

I myself am not a liberal. Fiscally at least. Socially I'm a progressive.

I'd say they both agree on the main point of both philosophies "everyone has to follow every ridiculous rule I come up with except me"

I will not stand for this anarchist erasure

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleed...

Almost like AuthComs are authoritarian before they are communist, and thus have more in common with the American Fascist Party than any actual leftists.

I used to think it just was synonymous with the left, but I've recently been seeing a lot of comments on Lemmy saying liberals aren't leftist so now I am not sure if it means anything or if those Lemmings are just dumb.

I've grown up with the term "bleeding heart liberals" being applied to groups like Green Peace and hippies that promote love and unity by people who are just complete pieces of shit, and in that context I was always like "I guess I'm a liberal 🤷🏻‍♂️"

wait until you learn about fiscally liberal vs socially liberal.

Op, are you in the US?

In the US, the choices for voting are Republican and Democrat.

Which of these parties is "liberal?"

The argument being made when non conservatives dislike liberals is when the liberals in question align with the Ds, because the Ds have every interest in pushing vaguely progressive policies during elections and never actually follow through in office.

Remember student loans? Still out there Remember universal healthcare? Still gotta pay for insurance Remember tax reform? Still paying higher rates than people who can't conceivably spend all of their money.

The primary goal of the Dems when in power is to maintain power. Fuck those guys. Not quite as hard as Republicans, but it stands.

Signed, Not a fucking tankie

I use lib for shared objects.

Secret lovers.

"Authoritarian" would require that we, you know, have some authority. Which we don't.

Neolibs do. And they just used it to arrest a bunch of students and people protesting against a genocide.

You all project so fucking hard it's ridiculous.

Lemmy going 2 seconds without complaining about tankies challenge impossible...

this website has defo been infiltrated by right-wing groups

"Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism, free markets, representative democracy, legal rights and state monopoly on violence. It includes a large portion of the present day political spectrum, from the centre-left social democrats to the far-right conservatives and American libertarians."

When the horseshoe becomes a circle…

I tend to see the derogatory 'Liberal' and moreso 'Lib' used for Neo-liberals and those supporting the neoliberal policies that have dominated the last few generations.

I otherwise see it used in the context of the phrase "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds" which is pithy but tracks with history and typically the more antagonistic usage. It is almost entirely used to provoke a reaction from the 'libs' it is directed at, accuracy notwithstanding.

With context it is almost always pretty self explanatory which is being used.

Who doesn't hate those dang rightwingers, The Liberals?

Nice

Do any of them know what the >word "liberal" actually means?

No. Most barely know what a "word" is.