And then Jesus showed up and said, and I quote, "...if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It’s better to enter eternal life with only one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell." But in Aramaic, I guess.
And also learn to look at different things with both your eye at the same time Bro what are you doing wasting your life looking at the same thing with both day after day when you could be looking at twice as many things
Just remember that these are the kind of people that believe that without the word of God to dictate morality to humanity that literally everyone would be a murdering, raping, cannibalistic monster. They literally cannot understand that people can be good without the fear of eternal damnation looming over them at all times.
Repeating myself, but the jackass who made Supersize Me had a short-lived tv show where people of opposing backgrounds swapped lives. The christian nutter went to live with Muslims and talked about how if you don't get your values from the bible, he can't imagine what you must believe.
You're spot on with this comment. They absolutely have an inability to think outside the confines of their own mental prisons. I'm sure that even pre-language proto-humans could discern morality and whether their actions were justified or not, even if unable to articulate the concept.
A lot of non huma animals are able to understand that their actions have a good or bad impact on others. Those people rank very low on evolutionary scale.
The "before I cave in" remark is probably just about failing the "avert my eyes" thing and looking at the women in the Mat 5:28, committing adultery in your heart kind of way. From a Catholic perspective OOP's concerns are completely reasonable as even thinking about sex too hard is supposed to send you to the forever torture zone. I doubt this guy is a hair trigger away from committing SA but the situation is disturbing in a few other ways
Source: am ex-cradle-Catholic and read all the stuff about sexual morality
even thinking about sex too hard is supposed to send you to the forever torture
Except for the part where literally any crime imaginable can be forgiven if you repent and believe in Jesus. Which kinda makes all the different rules Christianity imposes on its adherents completely moot.
Yeah the "thought crime" aspects of some religions seems to be incredibly damaging. Like your brain is not fully under your control. Thought is a messy place. Treating it as an evil to always be expunged and rigidly controlled tends to translate into some pretty toxic behaviours or at the very least an erosion of self worth.
The really insidious part of the Christian mythology is that it takes your most basic dive as a species to procreate and tells you it's a sin. And of course, the only cure for that sin is the church that told you it is a sin.
He's talking about things like lust, or masturbation, not assaulting someone. Thoughts that you consider normal, are things that religious people struggle with.
I literally hated myself if I got horny enough to masturbate, usually upwards to half a year of repressing myself. I refused to pursue romantic relationships, considering myself not good enough, despite others showing very direct interest.
Christianism preaches so much compassion, yet also teaches Christians not to have compassion even for themselves, for what is the natural reactions of impulses of the mind and body. Feeling lust towards someone you're attracted to is natural. Feeling anger towards someone who harms you is natural. What matters is whether your actions you choose to commit after having those thoughts may bring harm to yourself or others, but when you think you have a security guard monitoring your thoughts every second of your life, it's much harder to reach that conclusion. Like another user said down here, this guy would have a much healthier life if he just had a wank when he came back home.
A lot of you are acting like he's trying to impose his will on others when he really isn't. If you fail to see that nuance, you're just as prejudice as the religious folks you love to hate. This is supposed to be religious cringe, not atheist cringe... but nowadays atheism is practically a religion too, so I guess it fits.
The tone of Christian Gym Goer is teetering on incel. He doesn't take responsibility, he pushes that on to the "immodest women" who "don't follow the dress code".
If the mere presence of women in non-restrictive clothing causes Christian Gym Man to have to immediately pack up and exit the vicinity, that's really weird. This man need to learn some executive function, not complain about immodest women.
Also, the whole "so much for the tolerant left!" argument is so trite and weak. Intolerance OF intolerance is 100% necessary, and not equal on either side of the isle. The Christian intolerance of "I want to enforce women to a dress code because I can't control my sexual urges" is worse than "you shouldnt do that".
The fact that he asked an open question didn't mean he doesn't judge. He mentions gym regulations and calls other people's behavior “immodest”. Of course he'd prefer a solution in which those harlots are taught how to dress properly.
Also your last line is a really tired cliche. Big “if you call me a Nazi, you're the real Nazi” vibes (and no, I didn't compare anyone to a Nazi)
So it's not just his tone, but my tone too. You're putting me in a position where I'm supposed to defend things I never said about things that guy never said. Save this shit for your imaginary shower arguments.
My thoughts? You're a piece of shit and should absolutely leave that gym and do your workouts at home or behind bars where you more than likely belong.
This part of the bible I still think makes sense as an atheist, people have to accept their own responsibility and stop blaming other people for their own fallings.
This guy in reddit sounds dangerous the way he talks about women and caving in.