Everybody gangsta until Task Manager appear
Everybody gangsta until Task Manager appear
via Comics With a K
Everybody gangsta until Task Manager appear
via Comics With a K
I don't even get why force shutting a program isn't the fucking default.
Because you run the risk of corrupting files.
It can be really dangerous for some programs. I don't know too much about Windows, but in Linux, if we try to close a program once, it sends SIGTERM (or SIGINT, I can't remember right now), which basically asks your program to stop. You program can receive that signal and finish things up and exit cleanly. But if your program is deadlocked and can't handle that right now, closing the program again sends it a SIGKILL, which is basically the OS saying, "Get fucked. You're done whether you like it or not."
kill -9
There are so many possibilities to kill frozen programs in linux.
https://www.fosslinux.com/39434/5-things-to-do-when-your-linux-system-gui-freezes.htm
The one thing they're missing, which honestly shouldn't happen on at least desktop distros, is the system becoming unresponsive under memory pressure because before the kernel decides to kill off anything it rather swaps its own data structures out to disk, grinding everything to such a crawl that it's indistinguishable from a complete freeze.
The solution is early OOM, which is more aggressive at killing things off and it honestly should be installed and activated by default.
Why do you think the bottom one doesn't happen in Windows?
Do you not know the details tab in taskmanager can force close processes that are frozen?
Has the person who wrote that comic not used Windows in like a decade?
I prefer control & shift & esc.
I have no clue how long it had existed on Windows at that point (I think I got it after several years of using XP?) but I discovered Ctrl Shift Esc to task manager pretty late...
Which is interesting because I had used that combo a lot on my old 80s computer before un-learning it. Ctrl Alt Del didn't exist on it (alt wasn't a thing and the key labelled "delete" was the equivalent of backspace). Ctrl Shift Esc was the break command back then, which let you interrupt whatever program was running.
Ctrl-Shift-esc
You're welcome.
Remember how Volkswagen got in trouble a few years back for faking emissions when the car detected it was being tested. It would interesting to see if something like that could exist with RAM and task manager.
It definitely can for the graphics card. I got a trojan one time that was mining crypto using 100% of the gpu causing it to heat up and blow the fan like crazy, and it stopped every time I opened the task manager.
I didn't even think of the possibility that a program could detect task manager.
Just keep task manager open and they cant do shit lol
Perfect question for Dave's garage!
Lol I love this guy's channel. I thought of him as soon as I asked that question.
Had a beast of a desktop machine back in 2000, it could even decode DVD real-time. But sometimes DVD playback would hang. Pushing the power button 5s would switch off the machine, but 3-4s would get DVD playback working again.
That's how I learned that the road to success is to bully and intimidate... At least your hardware
Back in the 00s, when you told Windows to sort a big directory by modified date or so it would take ages, but be faster when you scrolled up and down. That's still the case. Presumably that's because explorer will launch more concurrent "get file metadata" tasks. Overall it's still slow, though.
It's actually not NTFS's fault, but explorer: Nushell gets file metadata in at most 1/100th of the time (the sorting itself is negligible), Linux is still faster at handling NTFS than windows even then, though, nushell on windows is merely fast enough to not be annoying.
I'm running Linux but I thought CTRL, Shift and ESC is the shortcut for Task Manager
it is! but you can also launch it from the ctrl alt delete menu
You just thought?? I was damn sure
I'm pretty sure CTRL+ALT+DEL used to be the task manager shortcut, but around 7 or 8 a menu was added with logout and shutdown options. I don't know how long CTRL+SHIFT+ESC has been a thing, but it's an effective replacement (and easier to press with one hand :] ).
Time to kill some child... processes
How to bash cat with pipe
Excuse-me whaaa… oh, you mean in Linux…
For everyone who wants a better task manager, go to Microsofts Sysinternals Website and get Process Explorer. You're welcome.
Yeah, I hate how multi-process apps never really show their memory usage very well anymore in Task Manager. Been using Process Explorer since before Russinovich sold to Microsoft and it's easily been the best one I've used on Windows to get a better picture of what is going wrong.
Yeah, windows task manager doesn't do shit if you are already low on resources. My desktop doesn't have a lot of resources to be used up and there have been a few times task manager is just as bad as the programs I want it to kill due to lack of resources.
It will very gladly show you all the resources are being consumed by some service you don't need, can't uninstall or disable, and will just consume more resources by restarting if you terminate the process.
It better runs, because everything that's not responding will be killed.
Everybody gangsta until kill -9 showsup
Lol every time
I know it's just psychology (and any resource reallocation that happens when task manager opens) but it's still funny
I have totally caught malware checking to see if task manager is running, and cooling it until it is closed. Some cryptocurrency mining trojans do this. You can verify it by using a tool other than task manager, e.g. System Explorer or Process Hacker. Usually they're not smart enough to poll for third party tools, so they'll quiet down when only task manager is opened and not when you're using any third party tools.
That's actually a pretty good idea, although it's not like a right-click on the desktop is really that much slower (assuming we're taking about Windows)
what i really want, what i really need, is just a windows equivalent to xkill. window not responding? ctrl+alt+esc, click. it's dead along with its entire family.
I am still convince that soon or after they will discover an hidden function in Windows that overclock briefly every component when task manager is opened
kill $PID
Death to $PID!
I guess you can alias that to kill
xkill + m1
feels so fucking good
nerd ;)
<3
DAD'S HOME!!!
I have never opened task manager after I added second 16GB RAM stick. It just all works okay, I don't even have to close programs.
Try running some docker containers. I have to for work.
I see you don't use Chrome
I use both Chrome and Firefox. I mean sometimes I need to use websites that doesn't work in Firefox, so there is always Chrome in my taskbar :D
In the command line you "Taskkill" a process too
Except for when it takes a few minutes for the command line to open and 30 seconds per character.
Ctrl-shift-esc will open the task manager directly. None of that Carl alt del nonsense.
Ctrl-alt-del is meant to be a hard interrupt to the system.
Ctrl-shift-esc treats it like another task.
Interesting so that's why system performance gets wonky when task Manager is opened with CTRL+alt+Del
I'll keep that in mind when I wanna kill tasks but not disrupt performance
I assume this terminology originally referred to an actual interrupt handled by a kernel interrupt handler, and half of the people in this thread have no idea what that means.