Times have changed

Even better, when they film vertically, and then encode it to widescreen. Ensuring that no matter how you view it on a phone it's microscopic.

This is the only thing i really hate. I don't give a shit about vertical anymore. We lost that battle.
I love it when it's a phone recording of a landscape 16:9 video playing with the phone in vertical orientation and huge black bars above and below. Then I can view this on my 21:9 monitor with extreme black bars on the sides and a teeny-tiny picture in the middle.
Omg I really really hate this with a passion

I still mock them

Same. I will die on this hill. Vertical video sucks!
- But like... my screen is veritical.
Sure grandma... Watch your step

My pro move is too change halfway in the same clip so at some point the orientation is just wrong no matter what you do. I also do diagonal shots.

I'm not allowed to film anymore.

Diagonal is the compromise solution.
- Call it a dutch angle, and suddenly you're a cinematographer
- Most of Battlefield Earth is shot diagonally and no one has complained about that fine film
Legitimately I do think being kind of, orientation agnostic, seems like a decent idea. I've seen it done well before in things like webtoons, where the sort of "line of action", as it were, can benefit from bouncing from one side of the screen to the other, and where a variety of composition techniques can make a shot look more interesting and be properly readable in either viewing orientation. I think a conflict kind of naturally comes about when you're just wanting to shoot everything to be completely in line with the floor so it's easily parsed by the viewer, which is understandable, but kind of limits how interesting and efficient you can make your shots.
Also, somebody needs to make some popsockets that actually work, so holding your phone horizontally for more than five minutes doesn't suck garbage doo doo.
- I unironically wish that modern videos could change FPS, aspect ratio, and resolution on the fly. There's way too many cases where having a 16:9 section of a video followed by a cinematic section is useful, and black bars are an awful way of transitioning between the two. Same can be said for vertical and horizontal ratios in the same video.

I still do. Phones can be turned to view it either way. Screens can't. I'm not gonna ask my bud to get up and rotate his living room TV 90 degrees so we can look at my vacation photos. Plus, until we learn to levitate with our minds, the plane humans interact is and will presumably remain much, much wider than it is tall, so landscape captures more of it.

Yup. It's a shame the camera lense can't like rotate or something, phones are much easier to hold vertically.
- They're just as easy to hold either way though.
- I suspect that the sensor has the same dimensions, roughly, as the phone itself. Putting in a square one would probably cost more. Not saying that either way is right, just that that’s probably the reason.

Fixed it

it's not stupid if that's the format it gets viewed most in
- Rotate your phone you dirty savage! Or don't idc really.
- I think you just proved the meme lol
- How is this controversial. If its made to be viewed on a phone then I don't see the reason to film hoizontally. Epecially the type of content that most people seem to make on like tiktok etc. seems better in vertical view.
I was mocking too, but things changed when a phone became the device to play back videos. At this point the orientation didn't matter as much.
It got to the point that some services, like YouTube shorts pretty much mandate vertical orientation.
- Cursing those services to never be seen on desktop devices because they look so wasteful of screen real state.
I think it depends on your intended audience. If what you’re filming is meant to be viewed on a phone, then vertical makes sense. If the video is meant to be viewed on a TV, movie screen, or computer monitor, then rotate your phone.

This is why 4:3 should become the default aspect ratio for taking videos on phone.

No, I will not be taking questions at this moment.

great idea, but 1:1 is what it should have always been
- Nah, we should use some freedom aspect ratio, like 1.47266478:1.984772673
1:1
- Vertical or horizontal?
  /s
3:2 please
Galaxy Fold camera has this as the default dimensions. (The screen is also 4:3)
I shoot in 4:3 because it's closer to the actual sensor's resolution. No I have never looked this up, and no I will not change my ways if told otherwise.

I still question why so many people find it so difficult to just turn the phone 90 degrees to the side when you film with it. Is it because you think you look like a dork when you film a selfie with two hands? Because that's not why you look like a dork.

Admittedly you would look like a dork if you filmed at a 45 degree angle.
- Dutch angle!
I usually hold my phone horizontally to shoot video, but it definitely is easier to hold it vertically. After all, it was designed to be held vertically.

Note to self: "2 Fast 2 Barbie"(working title) should now be filmed vertically in order to appeal to Gen Z on Tik Tok.

Just make sure the main plot happens in the first 3 seconds or else they will get bored
- At the very least make sure Subway Surfers is playing in one of the corners
Akschually filming it vertically is not good because we can't insert subway surfers gameplay under the movie. It should be filmed like a small rectangle
- WHAT is up with that shit anyway? It's so annoying
- 4:3 superiority is back baby

We used to and we still do too.

Ah yes, nothing like seeing a 16:9 picture pan-and-scanned on a portrait display.

It's not a generational thing; it's a filming standard.

Vertical Video Syndrome

It's a problem

Not really for very short video because 99% of the time you'll be watching it on your phone which is vertical by default. For long video horizontal is better.
- No, 99% of the time I'll be looking at it on the computer and my monitor is in the natural Landscape orientation

Shouldn't you be filming for the device?

Like tiltok should be vertical and yt should be horizontal?

I'd say you should be filming for the content.
Someone on a pogo stick in the backyard? Vertically.
Your pet running around in the backyard? Probably horizontally.
Your friend planking in the backyard? ~~Definitely horizontally.~~ Not at all, get new friends.
- But I've spent the last ten years perfecting my planking game.
  I need witnesses to my perfection.
- As an artist this is how I've always thought about it. Shooting a group of five people vertical is suboptimal. There's too much wasted frame.
Until Vine and later tiktok, basically the whole Internet was in the horizontal format and vertical videos would play with huge black boxes on the left and right and in turn you can't really make out the details of the videos as well because they were so small on those screens. Today's internet is very different and has things actually designed for vertical videos so complaining about it makes no sense anymore.
- Except it does. It is such a waste of space to film like that. If anything film a square
Film everything in square 1:1 format
It slightly annoys me when looking for YT vids on a subject and the results are full of 10 second vertically filmed shorts 🤦‍♂️. Some are fine in some cases I guess, but the majority are just noise IMO
You should be filming for your subject and media devices should be built around common filming aspect ratios. A phone camera's aspect ratio should be practical for capturing typical content, a phone screen's aspect ratio should mirror phone cameras, I think this is already approximately the case. Phones are somewhat unique compared to say a TV because they can easily be viewed vertical and horizontal, so really they have two aspect ratios.
I think the vertical photo and video phenomenon is more a symptom of how we use our devices. People are rapid fire swiping through media which means the majority aspect ratio is going to push the minority one out, which is why landscape is dead. Another reason I believe is people switching between apps, Tiktoking at the same time they use other social media for example, and often those apps are way more practical in portrait.

Vertical Video PSA

We should have listened.... Now we have Tik Tok and YouTube Shorts.... 😢

You can still flame people who film vertically on those platforms
Like most problems it’s prevalence is due to a lack of bullying
I came here to post this. 😅
- We tried to tell you.