70º in December

This reminded me of this old xkcd.

It can't be that cold, they're naked except for the hats!
Btw, we don't even get much ice anymore here. 20 years ago, as a child, i could go scating on the frozen lake.
- Now he can't even remember how it was spelled.

My kids won't have this problem. Given the circumstances that have been obvious for 40-50 years I made the best and most responsible parenting decision possible. I didn't have any.

- Ponzie zombies
Your kids warm and safe and comfortable in your balls bro, Im getting real jealous rn fr fe
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I really respect that sentiment. Like, I don't have kids of my own, but I am majorly conflicted about having them because i know that their lives will be massively impacted by this shit. I don't know if I can do that to them.
- Yeah, but stop thinking about their well-being and instead what they can do to make you happy! /s
  This is how I see far too many parents act lol.
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People living near the equator are still having kinds, and those families will need to move somewhere when things get too bad there. They will come and replace the family you didn’t have when it comes time for the great food wars.
- Yes, thus the choosing not to have kids.

70 degrees of what? Freedom?

Temperature translation for non-Americans:
70°F ≈ 21.1°C
50°F = 10°C
20°F ≈ -6.7°C
- I posted this further upthread, but it bears repeating. Don't manufacture fake precision. Nobody says "It's 69.8 degrees out", just like nobody says "It's 21.1°C". 70F is 21C, and if you need more precision than that, it's not in a Lemmy comment!
- I'm in the US and it's below freezing here & now. Do I need to translate that somehow?
- -40
Separation. Kevin Bacon wanted nothing to do with this.
- sweet memory thanks :)
It's slightly below freezing and snowing here in West-Central Indiana. We haven't been above the 50s yet this Dember.
Now admittedly, the 50s in December is not the same as when I was a kid and we are definitely doing great damage to the Earth's climate and biosphere, but saying kids aren't going to grow up because of it is a bit hyperbolic.
- but saying kids aren’t going to grow up because of it is a bit hyperbolic.
  Yes. It's a facetious tweet... You are in a meme community. You'll have to get used to seeing jokes here.
- We've been over 50 north of you in southeast Michigan multiple times this December
- Of course they are going to grow up. 20 years are nothing. Those are issues that will only start to get serious after that time. Which is exactly why so little is happening now.
- I think the guy above you was calling out the fact that the picture in the post is using a temperature scale that is only used by very few countries as if it was the default for the Internet.
- I'm in Indiana and it was 60 fricken two days ago.
  Hush
it didnt say degrees whatre u on about?
unless you cant use context clues to decipher a unit but blaming another country for existing isnt a proper exuse for your own shortcomings.

YOU'RE IN THE JUNGLE BABY

YOU'RE GONNA DIIIIIIE

This will be especially true once Alaska becomes warm enough to support a jungle.
- Polar bears with tiger stripes, anyone?
- Again

Have fun in the water wars, kids!

I can't remember where I first read it but I've agreed with it ever since: "My retirement plan is dying in the potable water riots."
Where's the water going to go? It's in the water cycle, if anything is going to rain a lot more and a lot more violently, and in areas it shouldn't be raining.
If it's contaminated we should be fine collecting and stiling rain water.
"Water is a rare and precious resource" when not talking about habitats, is a silly hyper capitalist argument meant to stoke fear and panic purchases.
- It is in the water cycle true, but where it is in that cycle and where it ends up are both critical to our long term industrial agricultural water use.
  Our water (in the US) comes from aquifers and like the proverbial milk shake, we're drinking it all up and pouring it on alfalfa.
  We need far far more water than collecting it from the rain would provide.
  The coming water wars will be fought over the rights to the dwindling supplies...
- A lot of water used in agriculture is actually from underground water sources that refill very slowly. Once we run out of those, many of the things we do can't work anymore.
- About 10 years ago it didn't rain in Central California for 2 straight years. Imagine that, but with the ground water gone, and places water is traditionally piped from saying "no more". Millions of people would die.
- When all the rain falls in the ocean, it's effectively gone.
- Lmfao you really think the people with money won't take control of natural resources?
  That's a pretty bad assumption considering they already have. Companies across the planet have already taken over most natural resources and will defend them with militaristic ways.
  Water is already privatized in a lot of areas.
- Just a heads up, but most states have laws that guard against rain water capture. For example Colorado only allows 2 barrels or 110 gallons per year!
  https://extension.colostate.edu/topic-areas/natural-resources/rainwater-collection-colorado-6-707/
  Avg US citizen uses 100 gallons/day
  https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/Departments-and-Agencies/DPH/dph/drinking_water/pdf/27icwaterfactspdf.pdf
- The water goes into the ocean and then we cant drink it anymore, is that not obvious??
Great. Thanks. Now I can't get the image of Kevin Costner pissing into a funnel out of my head.
- Me either :-)

70 degrees in Dezember around here would kill most people, since it's only 30 degrees below the boiling point of water.

I think you mispelled December as a reference to something but I dont know what
- Came out half in Portuguese, half in English.
  Well spotted.

That's ~21 degrees in non-freedom units from someone who has to do this conversion a lot.

Also, that's pretty normal summer temperature if you are from the Southern hemisphere.

- If we are being really pedantic, the freezing and boiling part of first paragraph is only true under sea level atmospheric pressure, so technically, you can't really relate these quantities with the given information in the first paragraph either.
  But I don't think that's the point this exerpt is trying to make.
- One oz of water heated 1 degree F is 1 BTU. Boom just as easy
But this is clearly written from the perspective of someone who lives in a climate that used to be solidly below freezing all through the winter months in the northern hemisphere. Now snow seems like a distant memory from childhood.
21°C/70°F is a normal winter temperature where I'm from in the southern hemisphere 🥲
And right now it's summer... let's put it this way, lately it's been over 40°C/104°F for so many weeks in a row that, when temperatures dipped to 33°C/91°F, it felt cold... and to think it's only going to get worse going forward @_@

This shit is exactly why despite having hated growing up in the frozen tundra... I'm now staying. Its not worth giving up at this point in society.

Been a....something... guys. Best of luck to you in the climate wars.

May the odds be ever in your favor.

You do realize that we won’t be free of the effects, right? Where do you think all the climate refugees are going to go?
- Obviously… that’s why the first sentence I wrote was that I was staying up north….
But what if I like my freezing weather at home?

I call them Generation Last

The crazy part is I have friends who are well aware that the world is completely fucked and they are still making new children.
- The cute smile, hugs and sex are pretty convincing 😪
  EDIT: of my girlfriend, you sick psychos
The German equivalent of JustStopOil is called the Last Generation (or letzte Generation). The official name is like the last generation that can hold up climate crises, but the implication is clear
- That's a quaint and hopeful take on it
  I'm seeing geometric progression, positive feedbacks, and we are almost out of time

I live near the arctic circle.. it's usually -40° right now.. it's actually +5°C today.

T-shirt weather in late December.. wtf humanity

Yeah I never expected a nice day in December to bring such existential dread.
I live close to the Arctic Circle as well and it's +2 currently. Two weeks ago it snowed like a meter in 2 days. I've seen enough snow for this winter.
I'm not as far north as you, but we're also having a super mild stint. Normally have a couple feet of snow right now but it's rained for 3 days. Last December we had the same thing. Year before that we had about 2-3 feet of snow and highs of -10°C.
It's gotten to the point where I can't even rely on weather reporting to give me current weather. One day a couple weeks ago it's -20 but the Weather Network said it was 0... That was rude. I'm thinking of setting up my own weather station.
My neighbour was mowing his lawn last week (he's retired). Usually we'd be shovelling by now.
- I find it funny that you decided to include in your comment that he's retired, it doesn't add anything.

You should look at the winter that recently ended in the southern hemisphere - record ice shelf losses during winter, record high temps in Rio and other cities. In winter.
And it's just getting more and more brutal.
- didnt it hit 90 or a 100 or something in Rio, during winter?
sorry america but the smoke alone will ruin your summer too
Gosh dang it! In 2020 the fires turned our skies dark red, and there was ash falling from the sky. I don't want to relive that. I couldn't go outside for longer than about 2 minutes without getting a headache.
- Drove through New York in June this year.

"That unapparent summer air in early fall"

"That funny feeling" by Bo Burnham

"The slowly comprehending of the ending of it all."

I don’t. It means I don’t have to shovel or drive on snow.

That's pretty normal for the southern US. I've had several Christmases that were 85 degrees even.

Old person, pointless, war-story time!

Where I live, fall and winter weather is like this and always has been my entire life. Daytime highs in the 70F (21C) range in fall and winter is definitely above average, but far from abnormal and that's not even particularly extreme for this time of year. It's a part of the northern hemisphere where it's not even rare to have over night lows of 18F (-8C), and within a day or two it'll be 72F (22C). We even joke about it "Ha ha ha. Don't like the weather? Just wait a day. Ha ha ha."

So, full disclosure: Climate change is real. If we don't get our shit together, the (human) world is probably going to end (in disaster). But, being honest, if it's 70F for a few days in November, December, January, February, or March it's not exactly a sign that the end is near.

Anyway, on a site that shall not be named, there was a post that showed up on the front page that was from a city I used to live in, and which was geographically close to where I spent most of my childhood. It was an image gallery of a bunch of random plants in flower, during a week of slightly warmer than average weather in December or January, and it was lamenting something along the lines of "People keep saying these flowers are pretty but all I see is a harbinger of the apocalypse." Highly upvoted and lots of affirmative comments.

Don't get me wrong. Climate change is coming, climate change is here. It's a catastrophe and it's not a thing I deny exists.

But, the flowers in their photos were things that are cool season bloomers which start blooming in October/November in my area and basically are in bloom as long as conditions aren't extremely cold or extremely hot. Most of them were invasive species (like Dandelions and various nettles that bloom year round as long as it's not too hot or too cold). There was only one thing in their post that would have been a bit "holy shit", but it was something that was completely unbelievable, likely misidentified, and they refused to provide further evidence on.

I called it out. Politely, but with conviction. And, let's just say, it was not well received.

I think the xkcd referenced above is relevant to your post.
- Above my post? I don't get it. My post is a top-level comment to the main submission. The post above mine is dependent on your client and your sorting selection / preferences, so it'll be different depending on who views this and when.
Yeah, if winters are warmer now than people remember, it's not global warming making a noticeable change.
For perspective, the average global temperature has risen 0.08°C (0.14°F) per decade since 1880. It has increased to (0.18°C / 0.32°F) since 1981, but you still aren't going to feel that.
- Depends on the area one is from. Where I grew up, temperatures were definitely consistently colder in the winter when I was a kid, and we received much more snow. Climate change is not just about the average changing, but the standard deviation as well (over both time and location). Regardless, for many people in the U.S., their USDA plant hardiness zone has changed due to consistently warmer winter weather.

It was good while it lasted.

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Kenny Lì, @theyylovekj

Lil kids talking about "when I grow up". Man it's 70 in December you ain't growing up lmao

This type of messaging is anti-helpful. Even though it's a joke, it makes things worse. It demotivates people from making the world better.

You are in a meme community. Spare me the lecture.
- So that means anything is ok here? What about pro-nazi memes? We all agree that there's a line somewhere, you and I just put that line in a different place. For me the line is anything that ACTUALLY might make the world a worse place.
There is nothing an individual person can change that will have an impact. There are maybe 10 large corporations that could, but won't, fix this. They won't fix it because it's not a profitable thing to do. They'd rather be profitable right up until the day we all die, than fix the problem.
"Am I so out of touch?
🤔...
No, it's the internetmans who are demotivating."
and what can a regular person do to fight this? not use plastic straws? turn off the light when they leave the room? wowie, that's going to change so much when the mega corporations are dumping millions of litres of waste into the oceans, oils, plastics, industrial wastes, when politicans all over the world only care about winning instead of helping, and wining involves a lot of money, money they can only get from the mega corporations, so they won't do shit to stunt their never ending chase of profits
even if all of us average joes decided to go full eco with minimal carbon footprint we will barely slow down the ecological downfall of our planet

The last character in his name is japanese. His full name is thus "Kenny Li Hi"

Lihi!
- shit you got me. Laughed out loud..... audibly

I rode my brand new bicycle home on Christmas Day ~~1983~~ 1982, and a neighbor was washing his car in shorts in his driveway.

This is a great example of weather and not climate. There are always one-off weather anomalies like snow one day in May or a 72 degree F day in December, but it's not good when these happen frequently.
Globally, the trends get warmer and warmer every year. Just because there was a warm December day 40 years ago doesn't really mean anything. What means something is these days keep happening more and more everywhere, and this has long term implications for everything. It won't be our extinction event but as other have said, we won't be living in the same world we are now.
I mean, the Southwest exists as do other places that don’t get snow regularly.
- Chicago.
My grandmother's chair has wheels, hence she is a bicycle
- The number of wheels your grandmother's chair has does not indicate what your grandmother is.
  And I would bet that your granmother's chair has more than two wheels, which would make it a wagon.

And of course he proves he is no adult either by treating the extinction of his species as a flippant joke.

Sometimes people need inappropriate laughter to deal with things. I’m not judging him for it.
- Which would be understandable if it wasn't obvious he's being serious.
  He genuinely doesn't give a shit.
I'll stop treating it like a joke the second anyone in charge does.
Until then I'm going to play the jester to bring some levity to this situation.
- In some cases, comedy is how you reach people and get them to seriously consider an issue. Jest on, my friend!
that's the only way a lot of us can cope with the fact our planet is dying and nobody is doing anything about it. Not going to live my days in despair, might as well laugh at my own misery
- Or you could try actually doing something about it.
Human extinction. That's hilarious!
the whole world is a joke that's why it's dying right?

HOLY SHIT GLOBAL WARMING IS OUTTA HAND

In Calgary it was 60F the other week
Hi from Oklahoma :)