So child molesters are okay with her?
So child molesters are okay with her?
So child molesters are okay with her?
Didn’t she also get pregnant while having an affair? I don’t think the sanctity of marriage is all that important to her.
And she's ugly on the outside. Anyways, where's the Epstein tapes you orange child fucker.
Fuck that removed for being a hypocrite, but there's no reason to body shame.
Whatever. She chose that outfit as much as she chose her bigotry. All I see is ugliness when I see her picture. There's no nice way to insult a person that so deserves to be insulted.
Ah man, I hate white knights like you. This bitch deserves all the hate. She's one ugly, nasty bitch.
She deserves to be hated
Regarding the state, marriage should be all or nothing. Consenting adults should be able to marry whomever and however many they wish or no one can get married. Personally, I don’t think the government should be involved in marriage at all. I would rather see some other options or protections put in place (if they don’t exist already) for couples who choose to become serious but do not wish to “make it legal.”
IMO "marriage" shouldn't be a legal thing at all. It's between you and your marriage partner/s. The legal/government aspect should be limited to forming legal partnerships with whomever you want to do so for taxes/healthcare/property/etc.
I mean, that's just fining a different word to describe what the government already does.
I don't know that I need the government to use a different word than the rest of society for an arrangement just because some people have a special ritual around it.
A government marriage is required for recognition by the government, and a (whatever religion or group) marriage is required for recognition by (whatever religion or group).
It's not that one should stop using the word or the other has a more legitimate claim, it's just different things in the same category.
I already told my wife that she was it. We got married because her family is traditional and we got tax breaks.
The tax breaks are nice, if I’d known how good they’d be, I’d have married my best friend years ago and just gotten divorced when we found our current wives.
LMFAO why is it ALWAYS a wild ride with these people
Davis has been married four times to three husbands
Her third husband is the biological father of the twins, the children being conceived while Davis was still married to her first husband. The twins were adopted by Davis's current husband, Joe Davis, who was also her second husband; the couple initially divorced in 2006 but later remarried
Davis says she experienced a religious awakening in 2011, following her mother-in-law's dying wish that she attend church.[13] Since then Davis has identified herself as a Christian, belonging to the Apostolic Pentecostal movement,[199] which favors what they describe as a literal interpretation of the Bible.[200] She worships three times a week[201] at the Solid Rock Apostolic Church near Morehead.[13][202] Following her conversion, Davis let her hair grow long, stopped wearing makeup and jewelry, and began wearing skirts and dresses that fall below the knee, in keeping with Apostolic Pentecostal tenets regarding outward holiness and modest dress.[98][202] She also held a weekly Bible study for female inmates at the local jail.[13][202] In an interview in January 2016, Davis said that she believed that "we are living in end times."[203] Davis also expressed her view that the Bible is infallible.[203]
these people are simply fucking nutjobs, absolute messes
I do not think that word mean what you think it means...
Lol, "sanctity", coming from this person 🤣
No MAGAs should be speaking about the sanctity of anything until they jettison all the pedo rapists from their party and prosecute them.
In her defense, her fourth marriage is straight, while my only marriage is gay /s
She's almost certainly a child molester herself. Extreme Christian views are a pretty safe giveaway.
She needs to ban same sex marriage because she knows her current husband would leave her for a better man.
I know that guy. It's always funny to me when those memes pop up.
she soulds like woman scorned, much like how rowling is scorned by trans people.
He'd come back, he already has once
that woman is kim davis, she has been fighting her refusal to give gay couple a marriage certificate for 10years, after the story first broke like 10years ago, she was initially sanctioned, but the 1st trump administration has emboldened her, and she is suing again and again, and bankrolled by far right groups. Now she is, through a right wing group bankrolling her, to overturn the scotus ruling over this.
She's gay. That's what this all boils down to, she's a closeted homosexual. No one can convince me otherwise.
Because it ALWAYS ends like that. Anyone who is anti-abortion? probably had a few. Protect the kids from drag queens, sex games, porn? is a pedophile. Someone who is tooth and nail anti-LGBTQ? they're always in the closet.
A dude I grew up with was FURIOUSLY homophobic. We watched the movie Big Daddy, everyone loved it but him. “Nah, I’m leaving. I can’t stand that queer shit. The movie would have been just fine without it.”
In his 20s he lost his damn mind. He wouldn’t watch television, terrified that he’d have to see something gay. He shut down completely, stopped hanging out with people.
Well, he met a girl in an online game, they got married. A gay dude moved into their neighborhood, wife came home and caught him blowing the dude.
Now he’s out of the closet.
He said it was exhausting always feeling like he was going to be outed. You could seriously make him leave a party by just mentioning something about gay people. He’d get super pissed, make a scene, then leave.
I remember him fighting a friend for making a joke (maybe he wasn’t joking) about them having a sexual encounter. I mean, it was brutal. Held him down at my front door choking him screaming, “you tell the goddamn truth! I ain’t never touched you removed!”
I laughed at him when he came in my store with his boyfriend. I said, “Dude, you fucking haaaaated gay people.”
He replied, “nah man, I fucking hated myself.”
That is sad. Just fucking sad.
He probably got brought up by very conservative parents. It's always the parents that fuxk up their kids the most.
He said it was exhausting always feeling like he was going to be outed.
This is definitely something that feels all too common with queer people. I know it's certainly how I felt before coming out as trans, to where I'd want to share memes with my friend group but constantly policed myself worrying that somehow it would "tip them off" somehow. I was in a weird place of being extremely invested in trans issues while also being pretty transphobic at times, basically so no one would think I was so interested because I was trans or anything.
It definitely all led to a lot of tension and anger and a very poor state of mental health overall, and just fucking sucked having to put on such a shitty persona all the time to try and hide my true self.
I'm somewhat sympathetic to folks like him, we all find our own way and some have a more direct path than others, but I do get frustrated how a lot of gay folks like that center themselves in their stories. They may have hated themselves most, but they hated the rest of us too, they may have been targeting themselves, but they hurt the rest of us too. They get big and loud when they're homophobic, but when they accept themselves many get small and quiet, when they've got some karma to work back.
This is a bad take, you're effectively blaming gay folks for their own oppression whilst erasing the fact that most homophobes are indeed straight.
Protect the kids from drag queens, sex games, porn? is a pedophile.
Or simply ignorant. That blanket statement needs evidence.
Someone who is tooth and nail anti-LGBTQ? they're always in the closet.
Similar to the above.
Marriage is a religious act. It should be banned from all government documents. Domestic partnership should replace all mentions of marriage in government documents and licenses can exist if they are giving tax incentives to have partnerships. If you want to get married and have a wedding and what not that's between the people and their beliefs, not our government. So have a wedding and file for a domestic partnership
The government should not care who you have feelings for, nor should they monitor it. If it is religious prerogative to dictate who should be allowed to be happy with who, then all religious ties must be striped from governing bodies as it is inherently anti the happiness of the people. Which for the U.S., is a direct violation of ones right to life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness.
I'm sorry, but you are wrong.
Marriage isn't (just) a religius act. It's a civil one.
Marriage didn't start as religious. Rather, it was appropriated by religion. That's mostly a product of the fact that for a large part of recent(ish) history states had official religions which served to keep the population docile. We seem to have returned to that ideal as of recently as well.
The difference between "marriage" and "domestic partnership" when domestic partherships as such were introduced was the fact that for marriage you had to get married (i.e. go to the wedding registrar and get yourselves on the list), as opposed to domestic partnerships which were meant as a "marriage without marriage". In ages long past, bastard children had no rights of inheritance. That changed and they were treated equal. Domestic partherships likewise allowed spouses the "benefits" of marriage such as tax breaks, divorces, domestic violence protection/suits, etc.
Today, for some odd reason, you have to file for domestic partnership. That's like requiring children file for citizenship. Sure, you do have to report the child as born, but if someone finds out they should have citizenship according to the rules, after a bit of bureaucracy they should have it. It's an automatic process. You don't enter a civil partnership by filing for one. When a spouse sues the other the courts decide whether their relationship constitutes a partnership. So it's a status aforded automatically, not unlike citizenship (until Trump trumps that, at least).
Again, religions don't own a monopoly on marriage. States have been marrying people quite literally since time immemorial. They've been conflated with religion because then there used to be a state-enforced official religion, which the US (and many other places) seem to have returned to.
What we should do is treat marriages as secular. Religions have their visions of marriage. Why shouldn't the state have its own?
Treat marriage as what it is: a registered domestic partnership with the appropriate name of "marriage".
If you want to legally get married, go to the registrar and register.
If you want to get married in your religion of choice, great! Go to their version of priests. Civil recognition of the marriage may or may not be automatic, and there are a few ways how that might be done.
TLDR: Religion has no monopoly on the word or concept of "marriage", as it predates all of them. Just look at roman marriages - done before Christianity was even a thing.
Marriage predates all modern religions. I see no reason to cede it to tyrannical puritans.
Right because marriage isn't about religion, it's about property. It's about who owns what and who gets what when someone dies. One could point out the historical aspect of men literally owning their wives, and some people (assholes) certainly still want that, but these days it's all about money. Marriage is a way for rich people to make sure they get to hold onto their partners wealth, even in the event of a divorce or death. It's a tool of capitol, forced on the rest of us by the leaching class. We certainly don't need it to love each other. No war but class war.
I get where you are coming from but this just feels like a semantics argument. Just because it’s called marriage in both venues doesn’t mean it isn’t already functionally exactly the way you put it. My spouse and I got married legally a year before our (non-religious) wedding because of the pandemic, the two don’t have to happen at the same time.
I get where you are coming from but this just feels like a semantics argument. Just because it’s called marriage in both venues doesn’t mean it isn’t already functionally exactly the way you put it.
It feels like a semantics argument because to a large extent it's a fight about semantics. Most of the people opposed to gay marriage aren't fighting the idea that gay folks should be able to see each other in the hospital, or be covered by each other's insurance, etc - they're fighting the idea that their religious ritual from their homophobic religion should be required to accept gay people and/or that they should be required to accept gay people as being in the same spiritual state as them as a consequence of their ritual. It's why arguments against gay marriage are only extremely rarely about the legal rights and privileges granted by marriage but nearly always about things like "sanctity."
Fully separating the legal and cultural/religious concepts of marriage, including in the language is meant to resolve that by ceding the semantic ground without having to cede any actual rights. You qualify and fill out the paperwork? You're in a civil partnership. Do whatever rituals you want, argue whether or not each other's rituals "count" all you want, everyone gets the same rights legally and the government is not in any way saying your rituals are or are not equivalent to anyone else's.
It's a semantics argument that's worked in the past, to some extent. Before the supreme court made same-sex marriage legal nationally, some states introduced "civil unions" as an alternative to marriage for same sex couples. They were often functionally identical to marriage, but since they weren't called marriages you could get some conservatives to approve them. Not enough to get them passed in red states, but enough to tip the balance in swing states.
They are separate, but the term marriage is often what people fight over.
For example the Catholic Church, the largest sect of Christianity, leader believed that domestic partnerships should be allowed and protected. But the term marriage held a "sanctity" to the church and thus they did not believe in marrying them within the religion.
So if you took the term marriage out of the documents, the issue becomes "I don't believe others should have rights that I have" and even their religion doesnt agree with them. Thus the bullshit of hiding behind freedom of religion to hate/persecute others starts to dissolve.
👏Separation 👏of 👏Church 👏and 👏state
Yeah. I said for decades the solution wasn't to recognize gay marriage, but to stop recognizing all marriages.
I'm fine with recognizing partnerships in manners that could be beneficial to society, 2+ people residing in a residence can reduce resource consumption for buildings as well as reducing travel distance which ultimately makes for healthier living situations and less fuel consumption. So even if we get to renewable locally cultivated energy, the amount we need to use is reduced. That doesn't mean people can't live by themselves, or live in the middle nowhere on a 5-17 acre farm if they choose, but maintain infrastructure in small areas is just easier.
Half the US could not possibly care less about others’ lives, liberties, or pursuits of happiness. Nor could most of their leadership.
Freedom of religion violates the paradox of tolerance
It doesn't have too. It is only a violation of said paradox if the religion does not tolerate the existence of people outside of their religion.
Amen!
Only reason to marry is for financial options.
You gotta understand her position. If the gays keep getting married, they'll run out of marriages and she wont be able to have a fifth.
I truly wonder what will happen with my marriage if this comes to pass. We got married before I had a legal name and gender change, and they generally don’t reissue marriage certificates for name changes, so I still have the old one that is ‘straight’ on paper. Will we still be married if SCOTUS kills gay marriage? Will we be married only if nobody finds out I transitioned? Will filing our taxes as a couple flag our marriage? And I’m sure a bunch of other shit I haven’t even realized I need to worry about yet.
This hurts reading it...
Yeah she's a conservative.
Don't worry. Even if this shitty person gets this through, we're all doomed anyway.
I try to find the silver lining in all things. Also, gallows humor. I hate the world. Luckily, I love myself.
I hope she gets hit by a bus before this shit gets any further though.
I hope she gets hit by a bus before this shit gets any further though.
I didn't think Kentucky had public transit
We do in the city, it is just really, really bad.
Fine... lifted oversized pickup with no line of sight and truck nuts... much more likely
I wanna know what dumbasses married this vile bitch. Fuckin hell man.
It's dumber than you could possibly guess
Bible thumpers tend to fear intelligence, so that all tracks
So many people I’ve known had said to me in the last cycle that this wouldn’t happen. So so many. I tried to tell them. It still wasn’t enough. They didn’t believe me and now here we are.
Saw this elsewhere on Lemmy yesterday, about sums it up:
"We have too many idiots for such a small planet." -ImeantheonesvotedforitGandalf
Be aware that divorce is also on their list of things to ban. I'm sure she would also be able to argue against that without blinking.
At this point she’s a puppet
There is no glove thick nor long enough…
So which or how many of her ex-husbands turned gay after dealing with her I wonder. Her past and present actions are so unbelievable, that much hatred… seems personal.
It's honesty difficult to argue any sexual ethics with the new testament except for celibacy until the second coming of Jesus. Marriage is for the weak.
They always look exactly like you think, dont they?
Not sure how I feel about this remake of Misery, but John Goodman as Annie Wilkes is definitely some interesting casting.
The last potatoe in the bag that just doesn't look right and rubbery.
Theocratic authoritarians deserve the same fate as any other authoritarian. Hopefully a swift drop onto a meat hook.
I hope someone has the guts to bring this up at the Supreme Court hearing (if there is one).
I am hoping for years....
Obviously her husbands weren't wowed by her appearance. She must have a heck of a personality.
Her again? I thought I'd heard the last of Kim Davis