Is it just me, or is there a distinct lack of subtlety in right wing propaganda campaigns recently?

i bet none of them would answer the same way if you asked them what a 3rd world country is
- No chance that more than a fourth of them realize it’s from the Cold War and originally mean nations that were neither in the sphere of Soviet or American interest. They just think it means poor country with brown people
New? This has been used for decades.
This one is a lot more explicit, which is not a great sign(as if the rest of everything else right now was)

“Talking Points Memo” isn’t just a website. The term comes from a Republican strategy to send out a memo to the party explaining what the message is that party leadership wants hammered on public media this week. It includes a list of “talking points” with premade example quotes.

Way back when the Daily Show used to cut together clips of GOP talking heads pivoting to their talking points in interviews, regardless of the question being asked. It was surreal. And the Left never found a way to counter it, which is why they still do it today.
- I remember that as far back as early aughts. Why isn't there a counter? Granted, we've known about Fox News being propaganda but nobody seems to do anything about that, either.
- I'm always baffled why 'journalists' don't just repeat "Answer the fucking question" at politicians when they do that. Seems like a pretty simple way to counter it.
This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
- Thank you, wanted to make sure someone posted it. And the sad thing is, this is how we got Trump. Boomers ate this shit up from their "local" news...

HateGPT

Like, obviously they all get their marching orders from one place.

But damn. How have they kept a seal on it?

Its obviously refried bullshit, but their ability to stay in lockstep smacks of a state level actor.

but their ability to stay in lockstep smacks of a state level actor.
I guarantee you its a national group like the Heritage Foundation or TPUSA issuing these talking points. Just because the opposition is organized doesn't mean their foreign backed. That's just conspiratorial thinking.
- I guarantee you its a national group like the Heritage Foundation or TPUSA issuing these talking points.
  Thats the right answer. I just don't get how they've kept it from leaking.
  That’s just conspiratorial thinking.
  It can be both conspiratorial and true.
  I think rightwing movements have become victims to a kind of "ideological spear fishing" coming out of Russia for decades.
  NRA: Russian funded.
  Rightwing astroturfed podcasters: Russian funded.
  European rightwing movements: Russian funded.
  Its obvious that right wing movements were coopted decades ago to weaken and collapse western Democracies. So when it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and smears shit all over the walls like a duck, maybe its a fucking duck*?
  *[ apologies to any ducks whom I might have besmirched comparing them to rw'ers ]
- Republicanism is a political ideology and a personal identity.
  Its not a functional part of the state.

It's jarringly obvious that they are just told what to say.

Reminds me of propaganda workers in Serbia that sometimes copy their messages along with additional instructions, so you'd see something like "LONG LIVE THE PRESIDENT but change it a bit so that it's not all the same" in the comments of news platforms.

They are all paid by the same people, Its not that hard to see which side they are on.

Usually given the exact same script too
- you mean a prompt to OpenAI api?

It's just you. There's been a distinct lack of subtlety in right wing propaganda for a long time, going back at least to "this is extremely dangerous to our democracy."

Seems that if you tank education enough, the lack of subtlety becomes more of a feature. Lots of people who only pick up on loud, repeated, simple messages are still able to vote.

The nice thing about being a Russian asset? Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V all day.

Counter point. Those countries are sending us hot chicks.

so immigrants are only welcome when they're hot?
- And somehow, this is still a more sane immigration policy
- Leave the straw man on the farm bro

It seems to work. People, all of us, are kind of stupid and when we hear things repeated we remember them. None of us are immune to propaganda.

Repeating something simple, and false, that appeals to emotions is going to have a bigger impact than something longer and complicated.

Totally agree. It's super important that we remember that people, all of us, are kind of stupid and when we hear things repeated we remember them. None of us are immune to propaganda.
Repeating something simple, and false, that appeals to emotions is going to have a bigger impact than something longer and complicated.

lol America may as well be a “third world country”

Why would anyone from a developed country come to the rapidly deteriorating US?

Idiocracy.

I've been saying for a while that America is an undeveloping nation.
"But what about the American dream?"
- This time in history may well be called the "American Nightmare" assuming we wake up from it.

ban illegal immigration

It is banned, that’s why it’s illegal

The term has been hijacked from it's original meaning, much like irony.
That said, it's so dumb. The folks from developing countries are much more likely to be on "their side". People from developing countries tend to be a great deal more religious. While folks from the EU tend to be less religious, and want more "socialist" programs from the government.
But of course they can't get over their racism to even make any good decisions.
Its the way they refer to poor nonwhite countries.
Developing works too, kind of.
Low income / high income is the most neutral way to frame it.
Plenty of high educated EU citizens migrate to the US for the higher wages though. Then move back home after a decade with a nice nest egg.

Subtlety is for the 2010s. We in the propaganda finger paint by numbers era now (and none of the numbers will be brown!).

except in Germany, brown is coming back big there

I mean, they don't need to convince their base when it is comprised of loyal cultists.

They are loyal cultists because of the repetition. The GOP are really damn good at getting their message across in a unified manner.

its because they are getting thier talking points from putin, who is paying all of thier income.

All those problems are the result of corporate greed.

Like the white South Africans right? Right?!

It's just so lazy.

Most con shit is stupid by design, like those scam emails that are deliberately written in broken English so that only stupid people will fall for them. Why would they bother writing something complex when they need an army of morons to lap up the talking points?

When a group pf people all share the same one brain cell, they tend to repeat each other.

If you want less immigration then stop foreign policies that help fuck up other countries. Not saying that is the only cause but in the long run probably more effective than rounding up random people from the street.

reminds me of https://youtu.be/_fHfgU8oMSo

Glad someone else thought of this. No different. Just manufactured messaging by those invested in destroying the nation for neofuedalism

Scruffy astroturfers!

It's the slow boiled frog. People on the outside notice but the fox viewers don't.

"Hey can I copy your homework?" "Sure just change it a little so the teacher won't know"

The homework:

Always was.

Who cares? Everything is naked these days.

They are all part of the broader complex of "new media". You have these guys on the right. Tim Poole is centerish. I don't know much about the left side of the controlled media sphere but I'm sure they exist and are funded by the same people. If anyone listens to these guys they don't value their own time.

Tim pool, a centrist. 🤨
- Pooleman is the milquetoastiest of fence sitters. Centerish is a fine adjective for him.