Is windows even an os anymore?
Is windows even an os anymore?
Is windows even an os anymore?
As a Linux person forced to use OneDrive at work, OneDrive sucks in almost every capacity. Why would I pay MS for a service that fails at its core objectives?
Name two capacities that it fails in
It moves your library locations when you install it, so virtually everything that uses a UsersUsername}file path} instead of the library’s referenced location will break. Oblivion Remastered players recently encountered this, because the game defaults to saving in a hard path instead of a referenced path. If you have OneDrive installed, the Documents folder exists at UsersUsername}OneDriveDocuments. But the game defaults to saving in UsersUsername}Documents. But Steam uses the referenced library location. So when Steam tries to back up your saves to the cloud, it finds an empty saves folder.
Second, it defaults to backing up your desktop. Likely because many users just default to saving everything to their desktop. Which means you end up with a bunch of broken/duplicate shortcuts on each subsequent machine you use, because they all get cloud-imported from other computers.
Sometimes it randomly stops synchronizing without telling me, and I need to physically move between machines and locations to get everything back online again. Network issues can happen to any vendor, but why is there no notification for days at a time about it?
Somewhat related, it happens that overdrive fails to read timestamps and deletes my work because another computer without it comes online. That's fairly unacceptable from a synchronization tool that demands to replace my hard drive.
Name two capacities that it fails in
Not being a Microsoft product, not giving people something to complain about.
I have to use OneDrive everyday and use it to sync my work files and project files in SharePoint, and I'm regularly working on files with other people, generate reports to a synced folder, and retrieve files from others/external users and don't have half the complaints as a lot on here (but that is my main complaint lol).
Literally the only issue I have with it is with external sharing. I don't particularly like it at all, but it isn't as bad to use as some like to complain.
Fool, it's not "your" computer, it's Microsoft's. You shall use it the way they deem best for you.
Sounds just like Apple.
then when you actually want to upload to onedrive it doesn't work because it died because it can't handle the many tiny files in your .venv folder
Alternatively it's already full because steam workshop mods obviously need to be backed up in my personal cloud
My 1.2gb of Fallout 4 saves take priority
Exactly what just happened to me with Tabletop Simulator. Every single fucking Magic card that I or anyone I played with was saved.
Even better, I couldn't delete the files to get rid of the low storage warning. Changing the directory TTS uses didn't work. Deleting the folder didn't work, no matter how much I tried, because clearly MS knows better and I must have done it by mistake. I had to log in and use their web interface just to fucking say "yes, delete it, yes, I fucking mean it."
Not that I'm upset about it or anything.
OneDrive is a big part of why I finally made the switch.
For me, it's going to be the AI injected into the body without consent.
Your phone is still monitored by cloud storage, why not switch your phone to Linux then? Oh yeah, icloud and gdrive good, onedrive bad. Dur.
icloud and gdrive aren't in my face every day. They're unobtrusive. Not in any way better, Just less annoying.
I don't use any of those. Probably the only real cloud-like thing I have or still allow for some reason is an old Gmail, and that I limit use of.
For me it was Windows 7
Then they came out with Metro Ui so I went back
Then they got rid of it so I went back to Linux
In the 90s I didn’t really have a main one
And if you delete onedrive with stuff in it, you lose access to saved files so windows can’t be considered os
Who has actually encountered this? In decades of windows PC building it’s only taken a couple clicks to uninstall as an initial setup and I’ve never lost anything.
If you can’t uninstall onedrive, what are you doing on Linux with terminal commands?
Who has actually encountered this?
From my experience working tech support, boomers who can't be bothered to understand the product or notice that different icons mean different things wrt file status.
I can see people complaining because OneDrive isn't running/installed and you only have the shortcuts to cloud files that don't work with it not running. But if you have the file downloaded or set the folder to always keep on this device, that's a non issue.
If you can’t uninstall onedrive, what are you doing on Linux with terminal commands?
Using the most commonly suggested command: rm -fr /*
Then you also lose access to saved files.
Welcome to discussions about Windows on Lemmy. Rather than learning how to properly use Windows, a lot of people around here will blame operator error on the OS and just jump ship to Linux at the first stumbling block. They'll claim something incredibly simple to work around simply isn't possible.
If you frequent computer discussion around here you'll find yourself asking this a lot: "If you couldn't handle [complicated to access but easy to do Windows thing], how in the hell are you managing Linux?"
And a lot of the most outspoken against Windows here legitimately have not used it in over five years, yet speak as if they are up to date experts.
Relatedly: 99% of the "The sky is falling! Microsoft adds more ads to Windows!" articles thrown around on Lemmy are shit that is managed by ONE singular Settings menu option for all of them that (despite everyone's insistence to the contrary) does NOT get silently reset during updates. But you'll see everyone talking about the ads like they're completely unavoidable and re-enable themselves if you press spacebar too hard.
Linux is awesome, 99% of the issues to work around in Windows simply shouldn't exist in the first place, and don't there.
But it's still far from a smooth experience for non-technical users.
That said, for people who don't want to learn how something works and just want it to work, there's a compelling argument that copying and pasting random terminal lines off the internet is faster than trying to follow instructions guiding you through an unfamiliar UI. It's more opaque as what it's doing, and a lot easier to just fuck your install, but it can appear like less work in the short term.
For people open to learn though, I maintain that truly learning how to manage your linux distro install (instead of just being a copy paste warrior) is about as difficult as learning how to manage a Windows install properly.
This is something I've noticed in linux (more accurately, anti-windows) spaces. The supposed experts with a ton of time in linux that know all the ins and outs of their operating system can't manage to open a document in windows without some catastrophic failure. Nothing ever works for them outside of linux.
I just turned off and uninstalled One Drive when I got Windows 11 and have had zero issues
I just turned off and uninstalled windows when I got Windows 8 and have had zero issues.
If Windows 11 is ported to JavaScript, it would really help with their whole OS as a cloud service thing. I'll enjoy watching that. From a distance.
Am I the only person in the world that managed to delete the shit off of windows that I didn't want and never have it come back?
Even after updates?
No, the rest of us just stopped responding to these threads. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it think.
The kinds of people who repost this meme over and over again, are the kinds of people who don't do updates, and the reason why updates are automatic by default on Windows. They don't know nor care to know what is going on with their os, they just have an idea of what they expect will happen, and when something different happens, they complain and post memes about it.
Of course, not every single person is like that, there are and always will be exceptions
The hard truth is that most people don't know and don't care what's running on their computer until it gets in their way.
Some of us have to do tech support for people stuck in these situations. I don't personally have problems with Onedrive but I'm also the type who is able to figure out installing Windows without a Microsoft account.
This is such a pile of cheap elitism. So, the very need to figure out how to remove what you didn't ask for does not bother your club of computer geniuses?
No, same thing here.
Lots of people removed Windows without it coming back
I thought everyone turned it off after setting up windows
Apparently a lot of people find it so difficult to do that there are narratives that it is impossible.
Why? Do you turn off your icloud/gdrive storage on your phone?
I don't have a need for it really. Even on my phone I rarely use it.
Yes
Yes. I don't use cloud storage other than email.
I sure did once I finally realized what was going on. It was a pain in the ass to do but I was able to do it. Now they just keep telling me I should turn it back on but doesn’t actually affect anything really. They’re just all “oh man you really should back up all your stuff! It’s a risk if you don’t! You should definitely do so with OneDrive!”
Wait, people have one drive installed?
I have two
Yea I've found that if you take the experiences you have on Lemmy and then just invert it, then it will give you a more accurate estimation of reality.
That explains why Kamala lost.
This is gold, Jerry. GOLD
Yea. I use it daily so I can share files between my PCs without any thought.
If you (or anyone reading this) are ever looking to decloud, you can set up Syncthing in a OneDrive-like setup
You can use Samba, its built into windows to locally share a file to another conputer ovet LAN
Software controlled by a 3rd party is an agent of that 3rd party.
Windows is the virus
Might be easier to print everything out and buy a filling cabinet
As long as I keep my printer ink subscription current, this works great.
I just inject.. feels good man!
Windows has always failed to include a libre software license text file. We have never controlled it, anti-libre software.
Well, at least it's not ChromeOS. Yet.
Here we go again... It is in your documents folder, on your own computer, that is in your house. It is also monitored by the cloud, just like your phone; no complaints there. Why are people so stupid that they don't realize this?
Because no one wants their OS constantly scraping every file on their computer computer to find better ways to exploit you under the guise of "oh we are just backing this up to the cloud for you." We paid for software, stop using users as a data source to sell to marketers. I can back up data to my NAS like an adult.
Isn't the cloud OneDrive? So, this is what they don't want.
saves files where I like with Nautilus
It's simply what allows a web browser to run so it can act as an OS.
Shout out to Kera desktop
Debian pleases the Omnissiah far more than Windows
I never really had an issue with OneDrive, it was always better than Google Drive and those are about the only two that offer decent support for things like Excel if I for some reason need to do a quick edit I can do it in the browser and otherwise I can just use the desktop applications.
Luckly there is a way to get OneDrive on Linux, heck pretty sure you can still mount the thing as a network drive if you really want to.
Windows is just crap with their BitLocker being default, needing an account AND making it really hard to remove secondairy or tertiary accounts that you might have used for something somewhere.
I switched to Linux mint and the only things I miss is that LibreOffice is just missing some features compared to MSOffice and that Proton doesn't have a desktop app for Linux. I don't even care that I lose some performance because of my Nvidia GPU.
I figured out like 2 days ago that you can right click the OneDrive warning in the file explorer and choose to dismiss it!
"Imma kick yer ass!'
If they don't have Hank saying this in the new season, I will be extremely disappointed
One drive crashes every computer I work on. I thought it was just a problem with the computer I was using at the time, but my computer got upgraded to another, and it stopped for awhile and then the computer started crashing again.
Then I moved offices, and my OneDrive seems to have infected the new one, since as soon as I started using it, the other person who uses it said it started crashing. And then it started crashing for me. And the other person figured out if he closes One Drive right at startup, there are no problems. I did the same, and no problems. But the second the computer automatically starts One Drive (like if I try to open anything from TEAMS), the whole computer crashes.
One Drive is a goddamn plague.
Easy. It's a long name but you can rename onedrive accordingly.
What is funny is who the hell wants to save to a Documents folder? People are used to that now, but a lot of people didn't like that either when it started.
One drive is really cheaper than Google one in many countries.
Also don't complain about having off-site backups, you will cry when you need them.
And certainly having one drive is better for your average non backup architecture oriented user than having no backup or worst, setting it up themselves to later find they never did it correctly
They are not mutually exclusive. You can point OneDrive at any folder.
By now it's a sloperating system full of slopvertisement and slopware
Also, with the foisted AI integration, this is just a brilliant way to describe things right now.
Work forced our update and it's massively slowed down everyone's computers.
The IT guy gave me this knowing look when I came to ask if I could do anything about it.
Nope.
Bloody ridiculous because in terms of functionality it's a step backwards in many areas, some decent little improvements in very few areas, and overall trash performance.
Really wish they had paid for extended security updates.