Is windows even an os anymore?

Some of us have to do tech support for people stuck in these situations. I don't personally have problems with Onedrive but I'm also the type who is able to figure out installing Windows without a Microsoft account.

This is such a pile of cheap elitism. So, the very need to figure out how to remove what you didn't ask for does not bother your club of computer geniuses?

icloud and gdrive aren't in my face every day. They're unobtrusive. Not in any way better, Just less annoying.

I don't use any of those. Probably the only real cloud-like thing I have or still allow for some reason is an old Gmail, and that I limit use of.

1. Uploading
2. Downloading

It moves your library locations when you install it, so virtually everything that uses a Users\{Username}\{file path} instead of the library’s referenced location will break. Oblivion Remastered players recently encountered this, because the game defaults to saving in a hard path instead of a referenced path. If you have OneDrive installed, the Documents folder exists at Users\{Username}\OneDrive\Documents. But the game defaults to saving in Users\{Username}\Documents. But Steam uses the referenced library location. So when Steam tries to back up your saves to the cloud, it finds an empty saves folder.

Second, it defaults to backing up your desktop. Likely because many users just default to saving everything to their desktop. Which means you end up with a bunch of broken/duplicate shortcuts on each subsequent machine you use, because they all get cloud-imported from other computers.

Sometimes it randomly stops synchronizing without telling me, and I need to physically move between machines and locations to get everything back online again. Network issues can happen to any vendor, but why is there no notification for days at a time about it?

Somewhat related, it happens that overdrive fails to read timestamps and deletes my work because another computer without it comes online. That's fairly unacceptable from a synchronization tool that demands to replace my hard drive.

Name two capacities that it fails in

Not being a Microsoft product, not giving people something to complain about.

I have to use OneDrive everyday and use it to sync my work files and project files in SharePoint, and I'm regularly working on files with other people, generate reports to a synced folder, and retrieve files from others/external users and don't half half the complaints as a lot on here (but that is my main complaint lol).

Literally the only issue I have with it is with external sharing. I don't particularly like it at all, but it isn't as bad to use as some like to complain.

Yes

I don't have a need for it really. Even on my phone I rarely use it.

Yes. I don't use cloud storage other than email.

My 1.2gb of Fallout 4 saves take priority

Exactly what just happened to me with Tabletop Simulator. Every single fucking Magic card that I or anyone I played with was saved.

Even better, I couldn't delete the files to get rid of the low storage warning. Changing the directory TTS uses didn't work. Deleting the folder didn't work, no matter how much I tried, because clearly MS knows better and I must have done it by mistake. I had to log in and use their web interface just to fucking say "yes, delete it, yes, I fucking mean it."

Not that I'm upset about it or anything.

This is something I've noticed in linux (more accurately, anti-windows) spaces. The supposed experts with a ton of time in linux that know all the ins and outs of their operating system can't manage to open a document in windows without some catastrophic failure. Nothing ever works for them outside of linux.

Who has actually encountered this?

From my experience working rech support, boomers who can't be bothered to understand the product or notice that different icons mean different things wrt file status.

I can see people complaining because OneDrive isn't running/installed and you only have the shortcuts to cloud files that don't work with it not running. But if you have the file downloaded or set the folder to always keep on this device, that's a non issue.

Welcome to discussions about Windows on Lemmy. Rather than learning how to properly use Windows, a lot of people around here will blame operator error on the OS and just jump ship to Linux at the first stumbling block. They'll claim something incredibly simple to work around simply isn't possible.

If you frequent computer discussion around here you'll find yourself asking this a lot: "If you couldn't handle [complicated to access but easy to do Windows thing], how in the hell are you managing Linux?"

And a lot of the most outspoken against Windows here legitimately have not used it in over five years, yet speak as if they are up to date experts.

Relatedly: 99% of the "The sky is falling! Microsoft adds more ads to Windows!" articles thrown around on Lemmy are shit that is managed by ONE singular Settings menu option for all of them that (despite everyone's insistence to the contrary) does NOT get silently reset during updates. But you'll see everyone talking about the ads like they're completely unavoidable and re-enable themselves if you press spacebar too hard.

Linux is awesome, 99% of the issues to work around in Windows simply shouldn't exist in the first place, and don't there.

But it's still far from a smooth experience for non-technical users.

That said, for people who don't want to learn how something works and just want it to work, there's a compelling argument that copying and pasting random terminal lines off the internet is faster than trying to follow instructions guiding you through an unfamiliar UI. It's more opaque as what it's doing, and a lot easier to just fuck your install, but it can appear like less work in the short term.

For people open to learn though, I maintain that truly learning how to manage your linux distro install (instead of just being a copy paste warrior) is about as difficult as learning how to manage a Windows install properly.

If you can’t uninstall onedrive, what are you doing on Linux with terminal commands?

Using the most commonly suggested command: rm -fr /*

Then you also lose access to saved files.

I just inject.. feels good man!

That explains why Kamala lost.

This is gold, Jerry. GOLD

If you (or anyone reading this) are ever looking to decloud, you can set up Syncthing in a OneDrive-like setup

1. Create a Syncthing share between your computers at %userprofile%\Syncthing
   C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing
   and verify the share works between windows systems.

2. Create the shared system folders in it: %userprofile%\Syncthing[library folder]
   C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Desktop C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Documents C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Pictures

3. Open explorer, go to [My Computer/This PC], right-click on the appropriate system folder (Windows has system folders for: 3D Objects, Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures, Videos), go to Properties (under 'more' for Win11), select Location, and either manually enter or use the move button to select the new location. On pressing apply, you can also use the prompt to move the folder contents between locations (yes on the first PC, but manual for others if you might clobber files)

You can use Samba, its built into windows to locally share a file to another conputer ovet LAN