Hilary isn't playing

Hillary Clinton needs to sit this one out holy shit. I remember her getting paid by bankers to make "speeches" when she was running for president.

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/bill-and-hillary-clinton-made-roughly-25-million-in-speeches-since-2014-118009

I hate trump for all of his corruption. But holy shit she's no better

No, she's a lot better, but the bar Trump has set is that low.
- She's only better if you're a fan of open air child sex slave markets
- The dog shit one might have to scrap of the bottom of one's shoe is a lot better than Trump.
- Bro do you think any other person giving the exact same speech as Hillary would be paid that kinda money? The banks aren't paying her for her oratory chops. It's influence purchasing. Be serious.
- I was sooo mad Debbie fucked over bernie when she ran the DNC. Honestly that might of been the beginning of the decline for them. Let's hope they listen to voters.
- No, getting paid by bankers is ABSOLUTELY a problem. Or did you forget what the bankers leading up to 2008 after they got beneficial legislation passed that let them fuck up the markets?
  Bankers buy politicians to let them fuck up the economy and drain more money from everyone else they can.
- The Bernie thing was bad as well as possibly the only fully fact checked story . But here we have people deciding between propaganda shitposts and a bigot sending people to literal death camps as what is worse. The people who eat the shitposts as fact and spread it around are officially worse than both candidates. They are just Russian bots.
Yeah, that so quaint! 25M. LOL. Trump's net worth has increased by 4 BILLION since he took office THIS TIME. Fucking 25M over 10 years... "Those are rookie numbers!" No, not rookie numbers, flat out hardly a drop in the bucket. Sooo quaint. I'm sure her corruption is exactly the same as Trump's! (Can you really type that without busting out laughing?)
- So one could argue Trump has more dignity as he sold himself for more...
  Corruption is corruption no matter if someone sells himself for 100, 100,000 or 100,000,000
- All that tells me is that she's bad at being corrupt, not that she's some paragon of integrity.
Trump is bad. It’s not comparable.
Additionally 90 % of the shit spread about Hillary was from trump himself. And as you can see: he lies.
A lot.
- She's the wrong messenger. For most situations.

Now do the same for political donations and PACs

Any of her “definitely worth it” speeches, too.

Stats for this thread:

Comments about Hillary Clinton: 150

Comments about the president of the US receiving a bribe: 3

Comments about the president of the US receiving a bribe: 3
My brother in Christ, there are a thousand other threads about Trump being corrupt full of people lamenting Trump being corrupt.
But this post is like hearing Al Capone chastise Pablo Escobar over organized crime.
- I feel like thats an insult to Al Capone, he ran a soup kitchen during the Depression.
It's almost as though no one likes her.
- It’s almost as though human beings have lost the ability to prioritize what actually matters
- She had plenty of supporters, why do you think Bernie was shut out? It was just mostly the older and more centrist democrats, so not people on here.
What is your point? Lemmy is full of Trump criticism. It's the norm. One thread shitting on Hillary won't change that.
It's her turn
cause the post is ab her. I don't think we should be propping up a CLINTON as opposition to trump

Yes. You're right, Hillary. Now, go away.

She needs to go get her own bribes

.ml never fail to take a criticism against Trump and whatabbout it towards a democrat
- If they didn't suck so much it wouldn't be so valid of a criticism.
  Get your own fuckin house together. Then we can talk.
- Liberals in 2017, a mere eight years before realizing Trump Bad
- As sure as the turn of the worlds.

Looks at the Clinton foundation and the UAE

looks back at post

.ml never fail to take a criticism against Trump and whatabbout it towards a democrat
- It's been 9 years and centrists still can't accept that no one likes HRC.
- Corruption is fucking corruption.
  Calling whataboutism and not cleaning your own house is precisely what leads to loss of trust and directly led to the first term of Trump. EDIT: Along with explicitly and blatantly breaking their own rules to give the primary to Hillary (This isn't conjecture or theory. They've explicitly admitted this in court and justified it by saying they aren't a public entity but a private organization and can cheat if they want. Funny how they're a public institution when they get free federal funds, but private when applying their own rules)
  Democrats being feckless cowards and refusing to prosecute Trump for emoluments violations during the first term, and then failing to prosecute Trump for fucking insurrection on day one of Bidens Administration is what led to Trump term 2.
Wasn’t that proved to be outside of tenure?
- So you think that having a slew of money coming to you while you are out of power right before an election you are expected to win means that that isn't explicit corruption?
  I have this really nice building for sale in New York that I have to sell for a really steep discount. Send me the money and we can meet up and I'll sign it over to you. My loss is your gain.
  Seriously, this is the stupidest attempt to justify corruption I've ever seen.
- If only Qatar had delivered the plane to Trump on Jan 5th, 2025 there would have been no conflict of interest.
https://www.axios.com/2021/12/01/clinton-foundation-donations-plummet
- Huh. Funding dried up after she lost and wouldn't have the political influence the funders thought they were buying.
  Who'd have thought.
  Did you look at the date of that article and think about it at all? You're making my point for me.

If you're a Qatari prince, $400m is trivial. If anyone would give a genuinely free jet, they would.

That being said, this one is not a gift. It's manipulation. Stroke Trump's ego and pretend you like him and he'll do whatever you want, as long as you make him think it's his idea.

He's already excluded gas and oil from his stupid tariffs. And his family's heavily invested in SA. So, yes.
Qatar
Its why he us such a bitch about it too. All angsty on his fancy bbs. This is a thing that should never die. Like a rash that wont go away. President 747
Qatar is not Saudi Arabia. Way to drive the point that you can't tell Arabs apart. Also Qatar is merely paying tributes and concessions, also bailing out Boeing.
- Yeah, that was my bad. I'll edit it.

Hillary is just jealous she has to hide and do it slowly for years whereas Trump doesn't give a single fuck and do it the obnoxious way for 2 times more money.

Hillary was targeted by at least as much politically motivated investigations into her affairs as Trump got, and they all ended up going nowhere, whereas Trump got convicted of 37 felonies. But that doesn't seem to stop MAGAts rushing to post "crooked Hillary" and make suspiciously vaguely worded accusations every time the opportunity arises.
Notice how they never actually go into detail, because doing so would then require them to show evidence, so it's only ever "she was bought by the corporations" and "she knows all about corruption".

She would know, she was bought by two dozen corporations

Hillary was targeted by at least as much politically motivated investigations into her affairs as Trump got, and they all ended up going nowhere, whereas Trump got convicted of 37 felonies. But that doesn't seem to stop MAGAts rushing to post "crooked Hillary" and make suspiciously vaguely worded accusations every time the opportunity arises.
Notice how they never actually go into detail, because doing so would then require them to show evidence, so it's only ever "she was bought by the corporations" and "she knows all about corruption".
- Say what you want, her coronation as D candidate in 2015 over a much more popular Bernie Sanders led to a weak turnout by disenchanted D voters and Trump's victory in 2016.
  Whether she is a murderer/ felon or not, she can take her opinion and shove it
- How about this for evidence? Taken from M1ch431 elsewhere in this thread
  The original source is a verified, leaked email (dated April 23, 2015) from her 2016 campaign. The DNC plan was attached in the email and can be found here. The specific quote is from Salon.
- I mean
  yeah
  But also
  she was bought by two dozen corporations
  so

Ba'al criticizing Satan.

He's allowed, they're buddies in Roman propaganda campaign victims.
So what does that make you if you take Satan at their lying word on who is ba’al ?
Don’t forget who started the rumour.
- I think you're gonna have to explain the lore for those of us who haven't read the trilogy

Pot, kettle.

https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/hillary-clinton/summary?cid=N00000019&cycle=CAREER

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S

Nothing wrong with speaking from experience.
- I would really appreciate this twisted timeline we're in featuring the Clintons openly acknowledging that they know how corruption works from experience as a way to derail the current corruption train that we're all tied down in front of. The writers need to demonstrate that they haven't completely lost the plot or I'm cancelling my subscription
She also received money (@ least a million) from Qatar while in office.
She failed to report it, admitted it after being called out. It was part of the ridiculous show that won him the election.
She's the worst person to open her mouth about this, as she's directly guilty and tried to hide it.
Not 400 million, but a direct comparison with Qatar can be made.
- Ah, the Russian bots are working overtime today to distract the left from talking about trump again.
What trump is doing is wrong also.
- Where did I say it was right? I am just calling out the hypocrisy.
  Clinton's charity confirms Qatar's $1 million gift while she was at State Department

I would think that Hillary having some experience in accepting bribes, would know...

So idk why everyone is doing the pot/kettle thing (with various wordings). She's speaking from experience.

Corruption is probably one thing that Hillary knows about, and she's calling it out. Doesn't mean she's any less guilty of being bribed, not does it mean that this isn't a bribe for Trump, nor does that mean we should be unhappy at Trump and not unhappy at her for them both doing it.

My point here is, why not both?

So she's basically Frank Abagnale Jr. now?
- I don't know who that is

Oh no, better stop being nakedly corrupt Trump or you might get sLaMmEd again

Thanks Hildawg, would have never thought of that otherwise... /s

Now hold on there pal, she isn't playing around alright. She's a real go getter badass.
IM JUST CHILLING
ON BLUE SKY SOCIAL

The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates “as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.” Clinton’s camp insisted that Trump and other extremists should be “elevated” to “leaders of the pack” and media outlets should be told to “take them seriously.”

She may not be playing now, but I feel it's fair to point out that Hillary has played some stupid games - the American people reap the stupid prize.

The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates “as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.”
It's important to note that this also applied to Democratic candidates. With the Republicans moving 100 miles to the Right, Democrats didn't think anyone would notice them moving 20 miles to the Right. Clinton and the DNC are just as responsible for the Overton window shift as the Republicans are. If not more so. Had they embraced and supported people like Sanders, who would have absolutely demolished Trump, we wouldn't be in this fucking mess.
Where did you get this information from?
- The original source is a verified, leaked email (dated April 23, 2015) from her 2016 campaign. The DNC plan was attached in the email and can be found here.
  The specific quote is from Salon.
- I don't know about what they said, but it's pretty well known that the DNC encouraged Trump because he was viewed as unelectable. Clinton sucks

Why hasn't she simply had Trump murdered like all of the other people shes had murdered?

She can only do that using Hunter Biden's laptop.
Do people seriously believe this propaganda ? It’s just so shitpost quality
- When I use /s or /jk when I'm not serious and people get bent out of shape about it. When I don't use it, and I find out a mod mass banned me from their communities over it.
  Damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess.

Be serious, guys.

Be serious, guys.
I know she is right, but still I can't help but think of this face while reading it.

I'd leave Hillary alone. She's a relic from a different era. Not really relevant these days.

Out of everybody out there, Hillary "I got a half a million dollars from Goldman Sachs for spending a few hours giving a speech to some traders" Clinton is maybe not the best person to talk about this.

Then again, she does have the benefit of hands on experience on this.

Where did you get that information from?
- I read it in, if I'm not mistaken The Guardian, way back when she was starting her campaign for President.
  Others are quoting a broader pattern of receiving money for speeches from her, so those are probably more well informed than my vague recollection.

shut the fuck up Hillary you're the reason he's where he is

Hillary was targeted by at least as much politically motivated investigations into her affairs as Trump got, and they all ended up going nowhere, whereas Trump got convicted of 37 felonies. But that doesn't seem to stop MAGAts rushing to post "crooked Hillary" and make suspiciously vaguely worded accusations every time the opportunity arises.

Notice how they never actually go into detail, because doing so would then require them to show evidence, so it's only ever "she was bought by the corporations" and "she knows all about corruption".

~~She and her husband~~ The Clinton foundation recieved hundrends of millions from those same gulf countries much more than $400m accounting for inflation

Context?

Qatar gifted Trump a jet.
To be used as Air Force One.

You know, I thought this expensive plane was not a big deal, but she's made me reconsider. /s

Now if it was just a ride on a jet, that's totally fine. Absolutely nothing suspicious could happen on a jet you just hitched a ride on.

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Oh look the bitch that helped get the Donvict elected the first time with her little smug shoulder shuffles, mocking laughs, and lack of campaigning in the states that made the difference like Michigan ... Can her and Pelosi fuck right off? Aren't they "retired"?

Wow. What a bunch of shit comments.

Has Lemmy really gone to shit this fast??

There is no higher quality comment than to enter the comments section and generally declare the comments as shit. The cherry on top is to expand that generality to say all of lemmy has "gone to shit".
Seriously, I don't know what in particular you have an issue with, just that you think a bunch of comments are shit.
You seem to be new here my friend. It happened a long time ago, especially during the US elections. Everything seems to be about trump, elon musk, capitalism, killing CEOs, and the like and it all started in a big way then. But there’s ways you can filter out most of it using your app if you’d like.

Hillary is haunting... In general...

I don't want to see this horrible fucking idiot's take on anything.

Also fuck Donald Trump

Hillary is a murderer.

That is a $400 million money pit, not a jet

They're searching for an idiot to accept and pay for its maintenance fees

Found one too, lol.

Well, technically it could be reimbursement for something.

Maybe a dare

Online 'liberals' hate Hillary more than they hate trump.

Way to go guys, if you'd have gotten on board and simply voted for her, you probably would have gotten half the shit you wanted. Instead, we have a dictatorship now.

Sanders supporters voted in greater numbers for Clinton in 2016 than Clinton supporters voted for Obama in 2008.
Clinton supporters were so unhappy in 2008 that they didn't get 100% of everything they wanted that they formed a PAC to support McCain.
- Fucking PUMA's.

Not only does no one give someone a $400 million dollar jet for free without expecting anything in return, they also don't give it away for free unless they know they are dealing who they know will give something at least comparable back in return. You can tell who Trump doesn't grift by things like this.

True but also let’s be serious about middle names

Rodham is her maiden name.
- But it’s on the middle…..technically lol

They do if they don’t expect it to land safely.

she's amazing <3 i often wonder how much better 2000-2025 would have been if america wasn't so misogynistic and racist.

I literally gagged reading this. Fuck Clinton. Her pissweak version of "liberalism" is why we have Trump again.
Amazingly corrupt, GTFO of here with this BS. She tries to hide her corruption, at least Trump does it blatantly lol.
- I dunno if that's better.... Or worse.
  Honestly, all politicians are crooks and liars, so nothing here surprises me.

But they can just write it off their taxes!!