Google says Gemini will replace Google Assistant on Android phones in 2025, except on phones with Android 9 or earlier and that don't have at least 2GB of RAM.
Google says Gemini will replace Google Assistant on Android phones in 2025, except on phones with Android 9 or earlier and that don't have at least 2GB of RAM.
Over the coming months, we’ll be upgrading users on mobile devices from Google Assistant to Gemini.
We’re upgrading Google Assistant users on mobile to Gemini, offering a new kind of help only possible with the power of AI.
Gemini might be good at something, but I'll never know because it is bad at all the things I have ever used the assistant for. If it's good at anything at all, it's something I don't need or want.
Looking forward to 2027 when Google Gemini is replaced by Google Assistant (not to be confused with today's Google Assistant, totally different product).
Seriously, I tried Gemini for a while but it is mostly useless. It can it open my apps, cannot control Home Assistant, cannot send a message to someone.
Yeah, it has a total lack of any of the integrations that made Assistant actually useful.
Even if an LLM offers meaningful improvements on the core conversational elements of Assistant, launching it without all the needed integrations is idiotic and completely hamstrings the functionality.
I swapped to Gemini for a month or two. Kept thinking to myself "maybe I'm not speaking clearly," and other justifications. Turns out it just sucks. Now I just do everything manually. Fuck em.
No fucking thanks! Gemini is garbage.
But Google likes garbage...
I use Google Assistant a lot. I tried the Gemini Assistant on my phone and it was an exercise in frustration.
Me: (after pausing the tv) "Resume TV"
Google: (resumes playback on TV)
Gemini: "TV not recognised. Please say the device name" or even worse... "A resume is essential when you're looking for a job in television. Your resume should blah blah..."
Me: (with phone locked) "set a timer for xxx"
Google: "setting a timer for xxx, starting now"
Gemini: "I'm unable to set timers, please unlock your phone, open xxx and (lengthy step by step instructions)", or "setting a timer for yyy" (completely wrong time).
They activated Gemini at work to auto-complete stuff in emails. I work in IT, and I was not aware of that. I was typing the sentence "we will need some help" and was about to add "in the project blah blah" but Gemini came with its amazing auto-completion and added something like "in the street where they sell sausages".
AI was a mistake, and I didn't use it since that day. Waste of time, waste of everything.
Granted I've a N Irish Belfast accent but Assistant pretty much always got exactly what I said. They've definetly gimped the speech recognition in Gemini I tried show me a picture of a jet and it responded with here's a picture of a unique job title.
There's wrong and there's how the hell.
Gemini is hardly an uprade to Assistant, though. Gemini can't do any task automation (aka the one thing Google Assistant could do) because it's a LLM that most likely doesn't even 'know' that it's being run on a phone....
They already fucked up assistant so bad that it can't even set timers anymore... )):
Yes. This is why I've disabled it repeatedly when it supplants my assistant.
If they remove automation, well, that was the one thing standing between me and de-googling.
I am sure they are working on automation with Gemini when they replace assistant
If this is pushed through a silent update then I'll use adb to remove it. I don't need a useless ai assistant hogging precious memory.
I feel bad for for the folks who have their phone gimped overnight and they won't have no clue why. So many people with older phones are going to need to upgrade because of this forced update. Talk about e-waste.
It probably already is. AICore is a service thats been getting snuck on the andoids for a couple of months, ever since AndroidSystemSafety was push on silently, which is effectively like recall and scans all your photos and files in the background.
I find Gemini has better communication and comprehension ability compared with assistant, but can do even less when it comes to controlling the phone. No reminders, no calendar events, no messages, no integration with anything. Just talking.
I would have preferred assistant talk and understand better, instead of a completly gimped alternative that does that and nothing more.
Exactly, and maybe I'm a outlier, but I have no intention of speaking to my device like it's a human. Ever.
Same. I’d say the enshittification of devices has gone far enough.
Mine does reminders and events now. It can also do Google home stuff.
Google assistant was already a good listener, it seems to have gotten worse, but compared to anything else I've tried to do with voice it was & is still the best at understanding, and can be set to be bilingual.
I honestly don't understand this but it's very Google to push the change before the replacement is fully baked. They did that with YouTube Music too.
Once again, thank goodness for GrapheneOS.
Never have I appreciated not having features so much.
Seriously considering this for my next phone. I currently have a Pixel, so I'm thinking I'll get another Pixel, try grapheneOS on the one I have to get comfortable with it, before doing it to the new phone.
The switch was much easier than expected.
Good thing I never used Google Assistant then.
I feel bad for visually impaired.
I feel jealous for the hearing impaired. Just think of everyone and they're dog showing off how dumb it is all the time.
Or people who don't have, or have lost, motor function in their hands.
I actually use it a bunch for setting reminders and it does pretty good at that.
For sure, but I am also capable of doing that with my thumbs.... which is what I do.
Same here. Really looking forward to not using their new product. How exciting.
Translation: your phone runs fine right now.... Well not anymore! Introducing more Bloatware! Your phone has never crawled like this before.
When your hands are wet or you can't grab your phone....the one thing I used Google assistant for, Gemini can't do.
I also use Gemini Assistant to set my timers and have never had an issue.
If you still have Google Assistant, it will tell you it can't set an alarm, and then tell you to try setting an alarm using Google Assistant
Oh I still have Google assistant as my main assistant. I just switched it to Gemini for the screenshot
Terrible idea. Every time I look at toggling it on just to test, it explicitly lists features that I use as ones which will be disabled by the switch.
Is there a viable replacement to google assistant that's self hosted or local?
Home assistant
Also except my Pixel running Graphene OS.
Gemini eats glue. We need a much more reliable model to replace Assistant.
Is there a tradein program to get my old phone back?
I don't want that at all. Well I guess I can't use hands free anymore. Thanks google.
Gemini works as a general search engine, but it's trash at everything else.
Didn't read the article and I haven't really used Android in a almost a decade, but aren't most android devices on seriously old versions and sold with 2GB RAM or less. Or are shit Android devices less common nowadays?
Last time I seriously considered an Android device was 8ish years ago and devices running Android 2 were still being sold new.
Modern barrel bottom Android phones in the past few years require an ARM64 system, and come with minimum 4GB / 64GB RAM and Storage. Good phones will have 8, 12, even 16 GB RAM and up to 1TB Storage.
My old, crappy phone that retailed for $250 (got for much cheaper) had 4GB RAM (released 2019 or 2020), and my current one has 8GB RAM. The one before that had 2GB IIRC, and was released around 2017, and it was crappy for the time.
I miss now on tap
Can we delete it?
App Manager doesn't seem able to remove all the google bloatware from my Flip6.
Also, using Aurora and F-droid and still getting 'download from Google play' error message when trying to run certain apps. Any work around?
Y'all I'm still loving my Pixel 3A, but I factory reset it years ago and refuse all security updates (because most things work better as is). I know this is a little scary on the security front, but "hell no" to all their shitty updates, Gemini included.
Any idea what I can root to? I'd love to have a secure OS but I have no idea where to start.