I've been questioning it since the day Mushk said "We don't need fancy pants LiDAR, regular cameras are all you need!"

As if a safety critical system shouldn't have backups or alternative sensors for verifying shit

Yes growing. They were birthed years ago, and Elon has done his best to nurture them so they grow big and strong

They're only ahead of everyone else because they were prepared to release a product that was untested and quite possibly unsafe, whereas the other car manufacturers realized that would be detrimental to their business, both in terms of reputation, and the inevitable lawsuits. Tesla just does whatever though.

This times 50x with SpaceX. There's ample justification to nationalize it at this point with Musk's erratic behavior.

Tesla has never, ever, had anything remotely resembling a lead in autonomous vehicles. The actual AV industry doesn't consider them part of it.

Yes to fuck musk, but also...

"Commanding lead" equals other manufacturers also didn't have a functioning feature (and still don't now).

Shhhh! I accidentally opened this thread while my phone was connected and EVERYTHING IS FINE RECALCULATING ROUTE.

Humans are not safe. 40k of them get killed in vehicle accidents every year in the US alone. Self driving doesn't need to be flawless. It only needs to be safer. If perfection is the only thing we'll settle for then that'll cost us hundreds of thousands, if not millions of more lives untill we get there.

If we replaced every vehicle on US roads with self driving cars that were twice as safe of an driver as average human is, there would still be 50 deaths every single day. That's 50 daily news articles on Lemmy about how "not safe" self driving cars are despite them saving additional 20k lives every year.

I recently rode in a Tesla on FSD for over 26 hours of freeway travel. It was flawless the entire time.

On city streets? 90% was about right. It once took too sharp of a turn at a double right turn and spooked the driver next to us (although it didn't cross into their lane, just got close), and another time decided to only change lanes halfway into the left turn lane.

I agree that it needs to be near 100% on city streets before it's ready for launch because that 10% difference is HUGE when it comes to safety. If their "level 5" taxi isn't using some vastly improved software, it needs to be kept off the street.

Same. I love my FSD and I've watched it go from 80% a few years ago to around 95% now.

To every even slightly educated person on the matter it's immediately obvious that the majority of people commenting on these threads don't have up-to-date information about how far FSD has come and their opinions are based on how bad it used to be and / or how bad they wish it was.

Everyone is free to go to YouTube and watch videos of people intentionally pushing the limits of this system. Like you said; it's not flawless, but damn it's good.

There was an story a while back where it was discovered that Tesla focuses their efforts on the routes taken by creators (and other influencial people), to intentionally make self driving look better than it is.

I have it and it is legitimately a great driver aid. But you need to understand its limitations to use it safely. It's a really awkward place to live in, because I get an immense amount of value out of it, but I would not just throw my mother in the car and trust her to use it safely.

I suppose the ones where people die are never uploadet.
But other than that, feel free to judge on anecdotal data.