Biden had a horrible night Thursday. But the debate about the debate is misplaced. The only person who should withdraw from the race is Trump.
"But lost in the hand wringing was Donald Trump’s usual bombastic litany of lies, hyperbole, bigotry, ignorance, and fear mongering. His performance demonstrated once again that he is a danger to democracy and unfit for office.”
“In fact, the debate about the debate is misplaced. The only person who should withdraw from the race is Trump.”
You mean the draft dodger, ressurective, dictator admiring, classified document stealing, dementing, lying, grifting, make-up wearing Cheeto ? He only serves himself.
Life long democrat that hates everything about Donald Trump here. I once famously said I will vote for used condom before I vote for Donald Trump.
Am I taking crazy pills???
On the debate, I, with my own two eyes, saw that our president Joe Biden is senile. Yet, today everyone is saying that Donald Trump was so bad, he should drop.
Donald Trump was a selfish, narcissist, lying, arrogant, bastard in 2016, 2020, and 2024 debates. As somebody that watches all our the presidential debates, I did not see any difference in Donald Trump, and his behavior, since 2020.
Biden, on the other hand, very clearly has dementia. I would know. My father has been battling dementia for the last few years. My father is a lot more capable than Joe Biden at this moment.
All of these articles are damage control from Democrats.
NYT did in fact talk about Trump in their editorial. They lamented that any sane party would consider him ineligible after his debate performance. But because we can't have nice things, the onus is now on Biden.
I've yet to hear a good criticism of Biden that isn't also true of Trump. Yet the media rarely writes a headline like "Trump should drop out/resign/kill himself"
Because he obviously won't. He will pursue your freedoms, wealth and sanity until his dying breath.
This is not fair description of his debate performance. He didn't stutter, he crashed like an old computer trying to keep 50 chrome tabs running and then barely dragged himself out of it with incoherent nonsense like "we beat Medicare."
It doesn't disqualify him, it just lowers the bar for Trump.
He has even said he is slowing down and can't debate as well as used to. This doesn't technically disqualify him, but it should be a huge red flag that he isn't and wasn't the best candidate. That's the real problem.
Unfortunately the question isn't whether to fire him, but if he can win an election appearing as a sickly confused old man.
He spit in the face of an energized lefty base, so he is gambling the future of the country on low information Pennsylvanian voters in a popularity contest.
If you can't stay on topic in a stressful situation then yeah, there might be a fucking problem. A Stutter is fine. Switching topics completely is not a stutter.
Exactly! If you say that Biden should drop out for the good of the country, a bunch of people nod their heads, but if you say trump should, everyone just laughs.
I'm for sure on team "Not Trump, and not a Republican." I think the debate really may have weakened Biden's chances, but I can't think of anyone who I'm confident could do better in the election. And I really mean "in the election" - there are certainly some who I think could do better as president, but they either don't have the name recognition or wouldn't pull in the moderates.
I'd love to see a true progressive, but there are an awful lot of people who simply won't vote for one. So I'm sticking with Biden and hoping for the best.
It's because dropping out is 100% not in Trump's character. He's in the race for himself, everyone - even his supporters - knows that, and asking him to drop out is like asking a zebra to try all-black.
Biden, OTOH, is a public servant and presents himself as trying to do the best things possible for the country. He ran in 2020 to 'save us from Trump,' and he's running again with that premise. You can disagree with Biden on what is best for the country, and maybe convince him that someone else might be better able to beat Trump in 2024. I'm not really all that engaged, so I have no idea who the next-best Democrat would be, but Biden stepping aside is at least within the realm of conceivable possibilities.
No one is talking about trump doing the selfless thing, because it's not going to happen.
But Biden is supposed to be better than trump.
And unlike trump, Biden isn't facing prison if he doesn't personally win. He's just trying to stop trump, but so are lots of other people. So shouldn't we let the person with the best chances go?
Like, if you had a game winning free throw, and any player can take it, are you putting Shaq up there or Michael Jordan?
Like, Rudy is a great movie, and America loves to root for the underdog. But you don't put him in on the last play of the Super Bowl.
You put your best players in. And Biden and his team in the DNC are obviously not our best people. They can step aside now, or after they lose and let trump back in the White House.
Trump is an unserious carnival barker running for the most serious job in the world. During his last term, Trump served himself and not the American people.
These are the kinds of articles we need from our media, and also needed sooner. Much sooner.
No we don't. Some of us believe there's a shadow of a prayer he might be pushed into it by Democrat party leaders and his own advisors, but even the politicos calling for his withdrawal have been clear that they expect him to lurch his way to an electoral disaster.
Who believes that Trump would serve his country? Trump would happily see the country go down in f-ing flames if it served him. Because he is the only one who counts for him, anything else does not matter at all.
Hah, no ones deluded enough to think trump wants to serve America or even that he gives a flying f*ck about what's good for it. This man is the pure crystallisation of "I don't need to win, I just need you to lose". He'll set this country on fire before taking any kind of responsibility or agency for the position he's vying for.
Hah, no ones deluded enough to think trump wants to serve America or even that he gives a flying f*ck about what’s good for it.
Oh my sweet summer child...
They believe that Trump is simultaneously the reincarnation of JFK jr, and JFK jr is going to come back from the dead and be his VP. Scientist need to invent about 200 more dimensions in order to describe the space their mental gymnastics flips and cartwheels through.
Do they really. I've been lucky enough not to know or interact with anyone like this. My impression has been he's patently corrupt enough to push through things they want so they support him. Like conservative supreme court justices who abolished roe v wade. The man is a habitual adulterer and I doubt anyone thinks he hasn't had a mistress get an abortion. They don't care he doesn't represent their ideals, they just care he'll support them regardless.
He needs to win so he gets that sweet, sweet presidential immunity for the countless crimes he has committed. Whether that fully protects him remains to be seen, but that's clearly the goal.
Tbh he could probably make plenty as a conservative media personality of some kind. Start some webshow and sell tacky branded garbage and fake health supplements to his supporters or something like that
He definitely will if all the prosecutions against him continued to completion…that’s why he needs to stay in the race at this point. He doesn’t give a fuck about the country.
Philly is also the city that violently chased the Patriot Front out when they tried to do a march, like literally just set on them whacking them with big sticks sending them packing back into their U-Haul van and driving away shamefully. Like Han Solo unhesitatingly shooting at Vader the instant he sees him sat at the dinner table for his big betrayal speech. Be like Philly.
Sadly, Philly isn’t what swings the state. It’s actually the turnout in the Philly suburbs (2 million+ live in the bordering counties) that turns the races. Philly will always be reliably dem. The suburban vote swings