It just doesn't make any sense!

Clear this is not real, how dare you accuse Trump supporters of reading.

B-b-but her emails!

Her emails. His laptop. My milkshake.
I wonder what comes next.
- All the boys to the yard?
buttery males

The funny thing is Jesus was, in fact, guilty of treason against the state
- That requires you to assume the goals of a Christian nation are out of line with the goals of a Roman Empire. And Emperor Constantine certainly didn't seem to think so.

They won't reject him for the crimes he's convicted of, they'll reject they legal system that convicted him of those crimes.

They only reject the legal system when it's Republican politicians getting prosecuted. They're just fine with it when it's immigrants and other minorities getting murdered by police or deported or thrown in prison.
- Yes. That's Conservativism. First decide who is good (cishet white Christian males) and who is bad (basically everyone else). Then subjugate the latter group(s) to the benefit of the former. The court system doing something other than that gives the Conservative a visceral level of discomfort.
- Right. To us, the phrase "law and order" means a peaceful society that results from everybody obeying the rules. To the MAGA/authoritarian crowd, it means exercising the power of the state (law) to maintain the correct social hierarchy (order). And guess who's on top of that hierarchy?

If you could reason with trump supporters, there would be no trump supporters.

I heard MTG has it as her desktop background
- She just wishes hers was bigger.
It's my lockscreen
- 😂 This made me chuckle out loud
Only the massive censor bars.
It's so offensive! I can't stop staring at it!

As usual it's the pot calling the kettle black. The most blatant US example of a political prosecution in my lifetime is when Trump got John Durham to prosecute two people for reporting him to the FBI. Both of these people merely did exactly what we tell people they're supposed to do: reported suspicious activity to the FBI. Both were accused of telling immaterial lies that were documented exactly nowhere and clearly lacked the kind of evidence that would be needed to justify any other prosecution. In fact, two prosecutors in the DOJ argued that charges shouldn't be brought and one resigned in protest over the prosecutions. Both defendants were acquitted after short deliberations, but only after their lives were overturned and they were savagely attacked in the conservative media.

But no one talks about them because unlike Trump, they don't have the biggest microphone on the planet. Then there's also Trump's blatant pardons of his political allies, which is just as bad of an interference in the judicial process.

L-meow

tHe SyStEm iS RiGGeD aGaiNsT mY fAvORiTe PoRnStAr-FuCkiNg ChRiSTiAn MiLLiOnAiRe!!!

Well, there are so many Presidents in American history that got away with all their crimes, it really is kind of surreal to see one caught on something so trivial. A real "Al Capone caught by the IRS instead of being a mobster" moment.

He’s caught on a bunch of stuff. This is just the first one to get through trial because of the delay tactics of the judge he appointed in one and the delay tactics of the Supreme Court in another and delays associated with poor judgement in the private lives of the prosecution in another triggering delays.
- Oh, yes, I agree that he was terminally stupid on how blatant he acted, both in this and the other charges against him. It is just funny to me how stuff like Watergate and Iran-Contra were never really prosecuted in any meaningful way, and it took a doofus like Trump for it to happen, and the first ever conviction of a president being on something like paperwork and financial flows, instead of, you know, treason, abuse of power (I know those ones are still coming up, fingers crossed for a conviction) or war crimes.
We let all the others get away with it! We can't start enforcing the law now! It's his TURN! /s

The hand, pointing out, he's reading this exact phrase, the only phrase in the book, is perfect.

In fairness, most politicians who pay off their prostitutes with campaign hush money don't get prosecuted.

It wasn't prostitution though, that would have been standard. This guy tells Stormy that it's a job interview like he's Harvey Weinstein
IF only that was the crime. Then ya, sure. It's the fact that he did it to influence an election. That's the crime.
Woooooooooosh

I enjoy the schadenfreude as much as the next guy, but there is a frame in which this kind of confusion does actually make sense.

It's the frame in which you acknowledge that our system of justice isn't about holding everyone equally accountable to the law, it's instead been an institution to keep the poor and marginal in their places- that is, it's about enforcing an unspoken social, class, gender, and racial hierarchy that a lot of the MAGA folks take for granted and really want to defend and uphold.

That is the order they're talking about when they say 'Law and Order'. The order is a social, racial, gender, and class hierarchy, and the law is the means by which the hoi polloi are kept in whatever the powerful in it regard to be their 'rightful places'.

For these people, the idea that the law might actually apply to everyone is an attack on the basis of order as they understand it. Of course they're mad.

Dude, I absolutely don't care about Trump. I am not an American citizen and I think Biden is better than Trump because he is a systemic politician. But why are you all so afraid of the redheaded old man?

What's hard to believe is none of the previous presidents committed any single crime, while this one committed at least 64 and 'nobody knew'. US intelligence agencies lose huge credibility.

I personnally think the trend is to dismiss crimes until someone is finally convicted. Then the dismiss abrubtly ends and prosecution succees fully. Either 0% guilty or 100%.

What's hard to believe is none of the previous presidents committed any single crime, while this one committed at least 64 and 'nobody knew'. US intelligence agencies lose huge credibility.
No one has made that claim except you.
- Eh, I've seen a bunch of "Trump is our first criminal president" memes. Which really requires you to blind yourself to everyone from Nixon and his wiretapping to Obama and his extrajudicial drone-striking.
  But he's not the first President to pay out hush money. He's not the first President to abuse his campaign war chest. He's certainly not the first President to cheat on his wife. Trump is simply the first person who has won the presidency and been so poorly politically connected that he's endured a full ~~federal~~ felony prosecution. That says much more about the role of the criminal justice system than the conduct of any given president.
  In a sane and just world, I'm hard pressed to name a President who shouldn't have been thrown behind bars at some point.
What’s hard to believe here, chud? Donald Trump was a criminal long before his political career. If a country is dumb enough to elect a criminal as president, what are the odds that criminal will continue doing crime in office? You understand Donald Trump isn’t a normal guy, right? He’s the head of a crime family. Now back to /pol with you.
- This set of felonies was done during the campaign tho. This was a portion of the election fraud he did in 2016.
I personnally think the trend is to dismiss crimes until someone is finally convicted. Then the dismiss abrubtly ends and prosecution succees fully. Either 0% guilty or 100%.
That is how "innocent until proven guilty" is supposed to work.
What's hard to believe is none of the previous presidents committed any single crime, while this one committed at least 64 and 'nobody knew'.
Previous presidents have committed crimes (Clinton committed perjury, Grant was arrested three times, Nixon was part of a criminal conspiracy) but none were convicted of a felony before now. And everybody knew about Trump's crimes, his accomplice was already convicted and served his sentence.
- Grant was ticketed for speeding three times, two of which were during The Civil War. Not arrested. The last one was in 1872 during his presidency, and he cited section 1983 of the federal code that had just been passed in 1871, that even a sitting president is not above the law.

20 years ago
Lmao two questions…
What year do you think it is right now?
What year do you think Trump arranged to pay off Stormy Daniels?
- I give absolutely no fuck who fucked an aging pornstar and in what year. You know the exact dates, it's very good, but what difference does it make to you?
Who among us hasn't cheated on their pregnant wife with a porn star, then paid her off to keep quiet, and then lied about it?
I'm sure you'd totally waive it off, if Biden had done the same thing and you wouldn't be foaming at your mouth like a lunatic, right...? Right?
- You don't have to speak for everyone...this case came to light under your presidential election because Democrats want to democratically rule forever. America is moving towards a one-party dictatorship like the USSR. All these movements, migrants, the hysterical fight for the rights of blacks and sex minorities, finally this lawsuit, are necessary to ensure the Democrats win the election. But...The Republican Party's online donation platform is overwhelmed after Trump's guilty verdict (he only faces a fine). After raising 50 million, the site went down. But Trump also has his own donation site. The Democrats have done a good job of publicizing his campaign. There's nothing to say... Bravo.
The democracy part was when we voted him out 3 years ago and now that he is out of office he is being punished for his crimes. How is that not democratic?