Look at me,
Look at me,
I’m the chimney sweep now!
Look at me,
I’m the chimney sweep now!
Alright, let's not pretend that today is somehow just as bad or worse than this when it comes to developed countries, but we still need to make changes.
What's bad is that even with the preponderance of historical evidence, there are still people who would absolutely return to these practices if the government let them. In many cases they do it anyway.
Child immigrants have been dying in meat plants left and right lol.
While they aren't as young as this stunted 10 year old, there are absolutely kids crawling through little spaces for family business or shoveling cow shit all over.
We're already doing it in the US. Republicans are pushing to repeal child labor laws. At the same time, multiple meat suppliers have been found using migrant children (as young as 11 IIRC) in dangerous jobs in their factories. This is at the same time that the greedy fucks are hiking prices on your groceries.
This brings up one of the questions I have in regards to capitalism criticism. I understand that child labor is bad I would prefer labor be done safely and with respect. In a capitalist society undereducated and vulnerable people get the short end and often do these jobs. In a communist system dangerous and dirty work still needs to be done. How would labor be allotted that would cause a more egalitarian outcome. Personal example of my family were migrant farm workers. Uncle fucking hated doing field work he saved capital, went to community college, got a good paying job, is now paying my cousins way through cal poly. If the system is set up so that work is done by those who can then realistically he could still be a field hand and my cousin would probably follow him. How does a non capitalist system deter formation and unintentional enforcement of caste systems.
Leftist organization, regardless of Tendency, proposes numerous solutions. Lower working times for dirty jobs, focusing on automating undesirable jobs as quickly as possible, and rotating who does those jobs are all proposed solutions.
I suggest reading leftist theory.
You're on Lemmy. Every ill of the world is caused by capitalism, cars, and any operating system other than Linux. Occasionally they leak out of their echo chambers like this post here. You're best bet is to block the creator and move on.
Things get a lot more enjoyable here when you block the problematic posters, communities, and instances.
The left is primarily not concerned with the wealth disparity caused by different wages between jobs. What drives inequality, which makes our society less democratic and just, is the private ownership of capital (meaning means of production in this context). It would be totally fair in a socialist society to add bonuses for harder or more dangerous work. What is not compatible is private ownership, not personal ownership of stuff.
Capitalism bad, as evidenced by a photo from a couple centuries ago...
ok Advocatus Diaboli, what are some good things capitalism has done?
It's important to remember that even under a Marxist reading of history that capitalism was good/progressive for its time and that it was an essential stage of human development. Iirc he wrote specifically how it had a much better ability to unleash productive forces than feudalism and also allowed for more freedom than feudalism.
This isn't to say it doesn't have contradictions and drawbacks, of course, or even that it shouldn't be replaced currently. It's just to say that hostile responses like "what are some good things capitalism has done?" are ahistorical/unproductive even under a Marxist lense.
Some might be wondering what the issue is since he probably grew this one from a little thing.
This is a perfect meme because Marxists still believe it's the 19th century
Just go anywhere in the third world and you'll see worse than this everywhere. That's also where all your consumer products come from btw
All the more reason to give them better paying jobs and enable them to build strong institutions.
I very smart I incapable of seeing the good shit that we have improved and instead of using it as a sign we can keep improving I use it as a? Whatever tf that is
We can absolutely keep improving! Labor organization fixed this problem, maybe it can fix a lot more? We should explore that possibility!
Are you under the mistaken assumption that Capitalism got rid of chimney sweeps?
Wow, ok let's see capitalism has it's advantages and disadvantages. Disadvantages that can be solved by social movements. But the way you interpreted what I said is mind blowing.
You might be able to read but does that mean you understood what I said?
Are you under the mistaken impressions that Labor isn’t part of capitalism? Seems odd to claim these problems “can’t” be solved under capitalism when they literally were. Chimney sweeps didn’t end because we overthrew the means of production…
Hey it's Arkansas' future!
"Look At Me. I'm The Captain Now." is a quote from the 2013 movie Captain Phillips, in which an American cargo ship is hijacked by Somali pirates.
The good old days.
Capitalism is idolatry.
While there were indeed child chimney sweeps, this particular image isn't from the 1800s, nor is it an actual child chimney sweep.
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Interesting and informative site. Thanks