Reddit mods are organizing blackouts to protest against API changes
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Some of the planned blackouts will be temporary, others plan to shut their subreddits down indefinitely in protest.
More power to the protest, but I am skeptical that it will do much good. I think reddit has strayed so far from its original mission and values that today it is nothing like the platform the reddit founders originally envisioned.
I think the reddit executives have probably already run the numbers on this and don't care if every single user & mod who uses 3rd party apps and the API walks away from their platform. At this point they only care about the IPO and what they need to do to increase shareholder value after the IPO.
They may even see the exodus as a positive. They may think of these power users and API-utilizing mods as a drag on their bandwidth and worse, they are users who seldom if ever see any ads and increase their ad-viewing numbers.
Will the quality of reddit content suffer? I think it very likely will. It's already been going downhill for a while now.
However, the executives mostly don't care about content quality, either. As long as the free content they get from their users doesn't stray into illegal and controversial waters, they are happy. If the content is mediocre memes and cat photos, they are quite happy with that. The goal is to serve as many ads up to as many users per hour as possible. They are banking on millions of "casuals" to stick around and scroll through the content and see those ads. Content quality is way down the list of their concerns.
My guess is the suits are are no longer interested in an "engagement" platform in the same way that Twitter and Facebook try to be (in their own ham-fisted and evil social-engineering ways). At this stage of the game, reddit just wants to be a mindless app that bored people can scroll while in the doctor's waiting room, the airport, in the bathroom, or wherever they are and need to kill time.
Have the reddit suits made a miscalculation here? Will the exodus make reddit another "not cool anymore" type of platform like Digg that almost everyone abandons? Will the mass exodus only leave bots and karma farmers behind to talk to each other? Maybe, I don't know. It's hard to predict that kind of thing. But I think the execs are willing to roll the dice on this because short-term profits are all they care about since they will be going public. If the bots and karma farmers fool the people buying ads, reddit will just roll with that.
(You'd hope anyone buying ads on reddit would check to make sure their investment is actually increasing their sales...but there's a lot of poorly managed businesses out there).
Either way....for those of us who enjoyed old reddit (and Digg before that, and Usenet before that) I think the path forward is a new platform such as this one.
I don’t think it’s been clearly voiced enough, but there are thousands of sub moderation bots that do things like automatically flag hate speech for mod review that will all just stop working. Some of the larger, older subs have entire ecosystems of content tagging and linking that will break. An example is putting the name of a tv show in braces [TNGS01E13] and getting a link to that episode’s wiki as a comment reply. It dramatically improves the Reddit experience, but isn’t worth the outrageous cost to keep going.
Overnight, Reddit would turn into a (more) poorly moderated nightmare.
Sounds like this move will make Reddit worse in every way possible, which is a pretty impressive feat IMO.
If all of this comes true, Reddit would earn the ”most hostile move towards your users in hopes of an easy cash grab” -award of the year.
Problem for reddit is, the people contributing through posts or comments are the ones most likely take offence to the new API pricing, and losing those people will be exponentially more hurtful for reddit than losing your average redditor. The proportion of people commenting, posting and upvoting is incredibly small compared to the total user number
My first reply here, and that's why I've gone ahead and branched out into different directions before things go dark. I missed out on Digg, but at the time I had gone from Usenet to various boards, and when some of them began to get quieter or stale looked around and found Reddit, soon after the Digg migration. I don't know if it's Lemmy or some other that will/can take up the need for a collective aggregate service, but this has potential and I like the distributed idea. With improved UI for the novice it could turn into the next Reddit without some of the baggage (and probably its own issues).
I feel like Tik tok has accelerated this mentality among a lot of the social media sites
I hope this protest has a positive effect, but cynically I'm pretty sure it's going to make a small splash, and then fizzle. Any popular subs that go dark too long well get sudo'd back online I'm sure.
My pipe dream is, instead of a black out, all the users come together and spam NSFW content on all the major subs to hopefully piss off their advertisers. Collaboration on that scale will probably never happen though.
If you really want to hit them, just make a concerted effort to request GDPR data for your user. It's perfectly legal, it costs them time and money, and it may also actually benefit you to know what kind of data reddit collects about you.
At some point, it may even become a nice tool, say if someone creates a way to import that data into e.g. the fediverse or tilde or something similar.
For anyone interested, this is the page: https://www.reddit.com/settings/data-request. Just log in, select GDPR and request data for your "full time at Reddit".
This is why the protest is limited to 48 hours at first, because that's the known "safe" duration. See what happened to r/news a couple years ago.
The two-day blackout isn't the goal, and it isn't the end. Should things reach the 14th with no sign of Reddit choosing to fix what they've broken, we'll use the community and buzz we've built between then and now as a tool for further action.
Glad to see so many subreddits contributing to this. Reddit IPO is the worst thing that happened to it and the original founders would have never allowed reddit to get to this point.
The thing is that people would gladly play 2-5usd/mo to keep 3rd party clients but Reddit is making super difficult on purpose. No way they are getting 5usd/mo per user from ads.
This is the third time Ive written this out because Jerboa keeps crashing so Im using the web interface instead!
Hopefully, I'll remember the salient points I made and maybe be even more succinct!
and the original founders would have never allowed Reddit to get to this point.
Unfortunately, at least one of the original founders has allowed, quite possibly even driven this policy. Steve Huffman is still very much at the helm and what he has exposed of himself in interviews, he doesn't sound like a very nice person (re: post apocalypse, he sees himself being on top and having slaves)
It's great that subs and users are organising to fight this but maybe Reddit should be allowed to carry out this change and metaphorically shoot itself in the face? This is just the latest in a long horrifying series of policies that the admins have pushed through, actions they have failed to take, or when they finally did, it was long after the horse had bolted.
Remember the jailbait (and worse) subs that they allowed for so long (and were rumoured to have participated in) and when they finally did something after Anderson Cooper shone a light under that dark, seedy rock, they picked their sacrificial lamb and blamed it all on him? Remember the secret santa parallel site someone set up that Reddit then forcibly absorbed and let wilt? Remember how they dealt with Victoria who arranged all the celebrity IAMA's? Remember how they brought in Ellen Pao (with her own set of issues) to deal with horrific amount of far right and misogynist subs that were actively calling for peoples and groups deaths, and then threw her under the bus once they got what they needed? Remember how they were banning people and deleting posts when it was revealed that 5 mod accounts were basically controlling the top 100 subs? Remember how they appointed to the admins a person who was found to be grooming teens and was supportive of their father who was convicted of serious sexual assault of a child?
The list is never-ending....
The sad fact of the matter is that centralised social medias one driving factor is money. They acquire that via data points collection from engagement. They dont care what kind of engagement as long as theres plenty of it and hateful content drives engagement.
There is no sense of community among the admins and execs of Reddit. It is entirely from the users.
The original founders allowed this to happen, if they didn't drive this. Many similar times previously, and undoubtedly, many more times to come.
Maybe Reddit, just like every other centralised, corporate owned social media sites time is over?
I just dont believe its something worth fighting for, despite how commendable the actions of all those subs is.
That’s what I want too. It’s time to take more control over platforms we use (and platforms that make money off of us existing). I’m happy most blackout posts either mention lemmy as an alternative directly, or it’s in the top 5 comments.
Quick side question: How did you get to beehaw from the jerboa app? I only see lemmy.ml stuff on it and can't find a way to add other communities.
I'm not willing to pay a subscription to Reddit. Forcing the apps to charge and then pay Reddit a fee is just a veiled attempt to squeeze money out of the very users that make and mod the content by the corporate idiots in control of the site.
Was thinking perhaps subreddits could just stop moderating and auto approve everything en masse... that would create a spam hell more beautiful than anything we would have seen before...
Unmarked NSFW stuff highly upvoted on the front page, crypto bullshit in every sub, every subreddit doing a "If this gets 2 times X votes, I post again" making the frontpage useless. It would be total anarchy and cause Reddit to implode on itself before you can say "What Snoo".
I doubt this will happen in reality because people actually care about preserving their subreddits. Anyway enough pipedreaming.
If what they're saying is true, that might happen anyway. A lot of moderation is done using third party bots that use the API. Without those, it all has to be done manually and no one has time for that. Even then a lot of the manual moderation is done using third party tools (again, impacted by the API change).
Reddit's about to pull an implosion that'll make Twitter and Digg look like blips. I got the heck out of there and now I'm just sitting back with my popcorn and tea watching it all burn down.
They can pitch a fit and protest all they want, but the only real way to get traction is to show there is a viable alternative. Want to renegotiate your Oracle license fees? Run a credible fraction of your enterprise on PostgreSQL. Want to get WotC to stop screwing 3rd party publishers with a new license? Start playing pathfinder. These are only two examples that I've experienced. Twitter will never improve as long as people keep using it. If reddit API users (3rd party apps) shift 5 to 20 % of use to Lemmy, you'll see API pricing drop incredibly fast.
The blackouts may encourage users to go elsewhere, and going elsewhere may help move the needle on this issue. But, the only thing that's going to stop reddit from going down the path it's on is stopping the IPO. Let's face it, any short-term victories will eventually be overcome by shareholder interests.
Plus, protestors leaving the site might actually help reddit at this point. Redditors are notoriously cantankerous and difficult to advertise to. But, it's becoming less so as mainstream users flock in. As protestors leave the site, the userbase becomes increasingly saturated with apathetic users who are willing to put up with more.
And let's be honest. Reddit has a lot of users who feel entitled to entertainment enough to get angry, but addicted enough to put up with it. Look at just about any fandom
I am kind of surprised that people are "addicted" to WotC at all - D&D always was one of the least recurring cost sort of thing I ever did. I think I played 2e for 6 years with 3 books. 3e for 6 years with 15 books, of which half or more were third party. But once you have the core books, it's hard to see what more one needs? I remember in the old days Dragon Magazine would give more extra content than you'd need, and the net must certainly now provide all the house rules discussion etc one could ever need.
And to show how curmudgeonly I am, I think D&D peaked with 3.5e anyway. 2e to 3e had obvious benefits. 3e to 3.5e refined things if you cared that much. But 4e sucked and 5e is still overly simplified IMHO vs 3.5e. It still feels too much like "just play a video game" then. Yes, I'm butthurt about what they did with skills.
Anyway, maybe this is indicative of how much we've fallen from DIY stuff in the masses. We used to be able to modify stuff we bought to let us do more and new stuff compared to how it came. Now it's not thought of, the companies try to make it illegial, or it's seen as the new "nerdyness" of being a "maker" I guess. But for a fricken game or finding a different website? For entertainment? I just don't know how or why people can't handle going to a new site it seems.
Such a blackout could help accomplish that goal though.
The blackout must be accompanied from a viable alternative easily presented. I just learned about lemmy and I’m trying to see if I can have a place here. I don’t plan on leaving Reddit forever but you never know, and this api fiasco has at least shown me alternatives I never knew existed.
I’m hoping the blackout drive fediverse adoption to the point that we don’t care what reddit is up to, any more than we don’t care about slashdot, digg, fark, et. al.
Let it implode. Pass the popcorn!
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I deleted my almost 11 year old account and moved here because of this. I used there shitty app for way too long and after switching to Apollo i suddenly saw all the old subreddits I subscribed too become more prominent in my feed. On there app if felt like I was getting fed rage bait.
I tried to use Reddit over old.reddit and I was OK with it for a while, but I gave up when topics with barely any engagement would show up at the "top" in my feed and I would get suggestions from other subreddits that I wasn't a part of.
I can adapt to a UI given time and I did like some aspects of their new layout. I'm not on board with desperately trying to fill my feed with "something new" every time I visit the site though because sometimes I want to follow up on a topic from earlier. It just kept burying things and I switched back to old.reddit after maybe six months of trying the new one.
For the sake of the app developers, I hope Reddit reverses course, sets a more reasonable cost, or the devs find ways to hook into something like Lemmy so they can keep doing what they do best. That said, I'm happy to have found a much better community in the whole process :)
Same! I used nothin but Boost, the idea of going to their main app was atrocious, why actively alienate your userbase? They've been falling into a corporate shit-hole for too long
It's good to see the subreddits fight a bit, but the internet of today is not the liquid ever changing space it was 10 or 15 years ago. Websites like reddit facebook and twitter are full on mainstream. Their userbase is huge many of which lurkers who dont pay attention or engage with a lot of the content.
Reddit especially is so compartmentalized that they helped kill off message boards and are essentially a series of small esoteric forums into themselves. At the end of the day there is a lot of value in being able to get pretty much any hobby and find a little active community for it and that really cant be replicated elsewhere. Much like how Facebook has been controversial for years the exodus did nothing because for a lot of people facebook is the internet. Twitter is a cesspool and even the mainstream is clowning on it, and yet it still lives and thrives.
There will be a bit of an exodus, but many of those people will likely begrudgingly go back home to reddit, and even for those that go away forever there are enough users that wont notice or care. Heck look at the new reddit/reddit mobile fiasco. A lot of noise and lots of "Im never going to use anything else". In spite of that you see tons of people with avatars and newreddit style profiles, and you see lots screenshots shared showing the official app and people outright surprised that there even are alternatives when they complain about it. Reddit is too big to fail.
That said enough people will leave and seek alternatives to finally kickstart alternatives in a serious way. I know Ive taken a look at lemmy in the past a few times but upon exploring found instances with double digit monthly user counts that were mostly dead. I dont mind a smaller site and in fact reddit got too big a long time ago, but it needs to be semi active and Im not interesting enough to do it myself. The threats alone have added quite a few users already.
Reddit wont die it will burn on, but the embers it sheds thanks to these events will finally ignite other alternatives.
The fact that we’re having a conversation like this on Lemmy, proves to me that Lemmy is ready. There are enough users already that I can make the switch today.
@Hamartiogonic @lemillionsocks same, though i hace to look at "all" to do it and i have never once opened r/all on reddit. I bet that will no longer be needed in time
I haven't used reddit in 3 days now, completely fine with the great community here.
@lemillionsocks @anji I think that's a bit pessimistic. Reddit is nowhere near a Facebook or even a twitter, and its owners seem to have forgotten it got where it is now when digg's owner lost the curators. I doubt it'll die as quickly as some predict but I also don't think it'll survive unharmed. The truth is probably in between.
A quick google search(so take this number with a grain of salt) tells me that reddit has 52 million daily active users and 430 million monthly active users monthly active users.
Reddit is BIG. Really big. And websites just dont die or pop up the way they used to because of how theyre designed and because of how the current era of the internet has matured.
That said I wouldnt call my take pessimistic. Reddit has gotten too big and there is an appetite for many users to leave for greener pastures but there just wasnt enough momentum to breath more life and activity into the alternatives. New reddit will chug on but enough people will leave that alternatives will sprout and grow. Whether that is Lemmy or something else it's hard to say this early on, but it means that reddit alternatives will have enough users to thrive.
This is inspiring. I'm here from Reddit. I just joined, and it feels very familiar. I just hope an influx of reddit users won't make things worse for the regular Lemmy users.
Not surprised to see /r/ProCSS in that list. It was founded in response to another of Reddit's terrible decisions. Speaking of which, I wonder if Lemmy could be made to support community-specific CSS stylesheets like old Reddit could? That'd be neat. Of course, it would need to support user-created communities first.
I also wonder if any of those subreddits will direct people to the Fediverse. Hope so.
@argvminusone Oh yeah, I remember when they promised that CSS support was coming... 7 years ago. As for redirecting people to the Fediverse, some of the apps like RedReader are openly considering it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedReader/comments/13ylk42/update3redditeffectivelykillsoffthirdparty/
"Right now I'm considering the possibility of modifying the app to connect to a Reddit alternative such as Lemmy or Mastodon. There would be something very satisfying about some of the bigger Reddit apps driving their userbase to alternative sites too, and if this helped one of those platforms gain traction then that would be a step in the right direction."
Personally I think it wouldn't be a bad idea if some of these app creators hosted their own Fediverse instance and sent all their users to it.
Problem: millions of redditors currently use third-party Reddit apps. Abruptly sending millions of people to the Lemmy instance you just deployed is a sure-fire way to break it, and maybe bring down the whole federated network of Lemmy instances. Lemmy currently has issues scaling above a few hundred users, as Beehaw has recently discovered, let alone millions.
Problem: Lemmy is a completely different protocol, and there's less than a month left before all third-party Reddit apps become useless and everyone uninstalls them. That's an exceedingly tight timetable and an exceedingly unforgiving deadline.
That said, it's now or never; death or glory. We're not going to get another chance to bring over that many people to Lemmy all at once.
For now admins can already add custom themes to their Lemmy instances. Its described in the docs.
This is like watching an incredibly slow train wreck. We know what the outcome looks like, but are (mostly) powerless to stop it unless these blackouts work.
The blackouts won't work, I think. Unless "working" means "some community manager will lie through his teeth to justify what the product managers decided, while not being even fully informed on the consequences of the decision." With potentially spez coming out of the blue and saying his stupid shit, while pretending to be part of the community. "AS SNOOS WE STAND UNITED!"
Meh I hope reddit dies. Greedy dbag MBA tools
Yeah it's like watching a drunk man confidently walk out into oncoming traffic in a moment of hubris. Everyone can see what's about to happen except him.
I support the blackouts, and I'm happy to see some of the larger subreddits starting to join, but I highly doubt this will change the API policy. The Reddit administration knew they were committing to a destructive course of action; they are not stupid, they're pursuing an aggressive, purposeful corporate monetization strategy. That said, I do hope more major subreddits speak out, and I think the 48-hour blackout will open some users' eyes to Reddit's questionable philosophy.
Even more so, I agree with @tangentism's thought in this post "It’s great that subs and users are organising to fight this but maybe Reddit should be allowed to carry out this change and metaphorically shoot itself in the face? This is just the latest in a long horrifying series of policies that the admins have pushed through, actions they have failed to take, or when they finally did, it was long after the horse had bolted."
If Reddit would backstep from this change somehow, then the rare opportunity of change will close shortly. Reddit just needs to push this through and hopefully it'll burn itself down.
I agree with this. Pretty sure Reddit has already done their share of research on the possible backlash and figured it was still profitable. I highly doubt they'd change their mind now.
My experience here has been great, tbh. Much less toxicity than on Reddit. I'm missing a few subs I frequented there and the app needs some work, but at least there's no big corporation telling me what to do.
Much less toxicity than on Reddit.
This. The 2016 US presidential election attracted an awful lot of awfully hateful people to Reddit, and they've been there pushing my buttons ever since.
I'm in the same boat as you in regards to Reddit; there are certainly some niche places that I will miss but there are already good alternatives growing. I'm taking this opportunity to both re-evaluate how I engage with the internet and take the time to choose communities that better align with my values.
I've been testing lemmy and it's been working great so far. It only requires some fixes and influx of users.
I have more posts than I know what to do with. I have subscribed to a lot of communities from a lot of different instances so it's a lot of activity.
I recommend everyone to do this and then later turn off some if it becomes too much. But being able to see most of the posts and contribute there will help Lemmy take off. :)
Apparently, the substance and quality of thought Redditors post may be a disposable commodity. That is eyeballs on ads may be secondary to our function as generators of natural language as grist for training artificial intelligence—with third-party apps a civilian casualty in a bigger war for the almighty dollar.
Part of the motivation for Reddit’s plan involves the surging popularity of artificial intelligence.
Large language models such as ChatGPT are developed using training data, which in many cases is sourced from content found across the internet. Reddit should not be expected to provide that data to “some of the largest companies in the world for free,” CEO Steve Huffman told the New York Times in a recent interview.
Who would've thought that someone would actually PAY to see what people on Reddit think?
Huffman is full of shit. Now I wonder who generates all that data and content on Reddit. Most of it absolutely wasn't stolen from other sites, right?
The TOS literally says they (Reddit) doesn't own it.
Lol The hippocracy of Huffman. The Newhouse family should really can him.
And I'm all for it! It's good to have alternatives though, hope to see Lemmy doing well regardless of what the outcome is.
I have been using reddit for about 5 years and have always used the Infinity 3rd party app. I liked it because I didn't have to have an account and it wasn't as buggy. It will be a shame if it has to be discontinued.
Yup, old time reddit user here. Sad to see this, but excited to see where the change will lead.
Loss is nothing else but change, and change is nature's delight.
The circus is burning, as its owners tried to heat it up. Let us enjoy watching the flames from a safe distance.
I'm still a bit sad about Reddit's seemingly approaching ending. I never cared about Twitter so moving to Mastodon was a snap, but Reddit has had loads of amazing content posted and I've enjoyed it for 15+ years. I love the Fediverse, and Lemmy is great, but it may take some time before these platforms and communities can replace Reddit for me.
I worry that content disappearing will be a bigger problem on the Fediverse, as instances come and go.
I'd be a liar if I claimed that I don't feel a bit sad too. But even then, I think that I'm more amused and excited than sad? (It's a weird mix of feelings, I know.)
And maybe because I'm getting old, I'm learning how to enjoy the brevity of the things. Reddit was born, thus Reddit will die; content was created, thus it'll be lost; so goes on. Nothing shall last forever.
That said, I think that most content will eventually migrate elsewhere. Some will be lost in the process, sure, but that's a given when handling this sort of closed platform. Better now than later, as lingering on Reddit will only increase the amount of content that will be lost there.
Yeah. As much as I want to abandon Reddit completely if they go through with this, I'll probably be forced to use new reddit and the official app because most communities probably wont migrate at all. There are many niche communities that I'm subscribed to, like related to a specific anime/LN series that's not too big.
I expect most of the content to be saved at some point before reddit fully dies. Many sites from the early 2000's no longer exist, but there are backups of forums online all over the place
Honestly, I appreciate the protests, but this whole kerfuffle got me to realize how much I... don't like reddit anymore? There are certain communities that I'll stick around for (shoutout to /r/BravoRealHousewives), but I've already set up an RSS server for news and I'm probably going to unsub from a LOT of the more general ones. Too many bots, too much negativity, etc.
So far, Lemmy > Reddit. Was able to easily find equivalent communities and honestly, I enjoy it. :)
That's why I'm here. Still have some stuff to figure out (and I'll really miss BaconReader for mobile) but I'm getting used to this as a replacement.
Reddit has shown their cards and in my opinion even if they walk back these changes the writing has been on the wall for a while that they are looking to change the site in ways that people who prefer old Reddit will likely not prefer. It would be better to move on
Yeah, I already pulled the trigger on deleting my account. I've no interest in staying there with what they're doing, and like you said, even if they roll back on it I'm done. They've shown time and again they give zero shits about the user base, and I for one am sick of it.
The exact same thing here. Ran a script while I still could use the API to also delete all of my comments and post after editing them. I'm leaving nothing behind as much as possible. In my reason for leaving text, I stated that even if the decision is reversed or adjusted, I can no longer trust Reddit to make good decisions.
I knew the day was coming, I was worried that there would be no other alternative, so happy to have found this place, and I am looking forward to witnessing all the people migrate in droves.
Power tripping mods vs Greedy admins.
grabs popcorn
FIGHT!!
LOL In my experience, they're one and the same: power tripping and greedy, the lot of them! (On Reddit, anyway)
Toasty! 🍞
When are they trying to IPO and cash out? A better way to avoid the backlash would have been to just slowly increase the API fees until all the third party apps were priced out. Then there wouldn't be a hard event to rage about, just mild grumblings while one by one each app says they can't afford this particular price hike.
A better way to avoid the backlash would have been to just slowly increase the API fees until all the third party apps were priced out.
I think that it's what they tried to do, but the decision makers are so disconnected from the platform and its community that they thought that the starting prices were reasonable. (They aren't.)
Good. Though I expect it won't change a dammed thing. The Amina know what they're doing, this is a purge of thoughtful culture do they can promulgate the drivel that facilitates ad revenue generating doom scrolling.
Agreed. Previously these blackouts made a difference like against SOPA and non-reddit things, but they fully knew that this would cause backlash and deemed it still worth it. Maybe not this huge of backlash, but they know they're "too big to fail" at this point, people are comfortable.
I full expect this is going to go into effect. I'm hoping in this next month we can build Lemmy up to a decent enough successor so that if people do decide to look elsewhere we can provide them a landing space.
Apollo's dev said 1.5million people use his app. Let's say just 10% decide to stick to their guns and say "I'm leaving Reddit", that's still 150 thousand people who are looking for new communities. That's a ton of people we could bring here.
So I'm evangelizing for people to spin up more instances. Yes, they may be quiet now, but if we take this opportunity where Reddit showed their hand early, we could provide a hell of a landing place come July 1 for a huge chunk of Reddit. It's not going to match them in size right away, but we take this as a moment to start growing.
So start that instance, plug it everywhere, create that niche community. We don't know who may drop by in a few weeks.
Thanks for coming to my motivational speech.
That's a good thing in my opinion, although it probably won't accomplish anything. But it's also a good time to abandon the sinking ship and try out new things - hey lemmy :-)
Very good. People have had enough.
Its nice that Reddit is promoting Lemmy like this. I just wish they would give us more time to optimize the code so that it can handle all the new users. For now it looks like many Lemmy instances will be completely overloaded from Monday, but lets see.
Lemmy only has a day or two of the blackout to grab users from reddit, I really hoped someone would prepare servers for the participating subreddits or something like that. It seems like a once in a lifetime opportunity to gain some traction.
Here's hoping it goes well, it seems like lemmy's golden moment to grow.
Out of interest, is it better for server load to have new instances federating, or to have users using the instance directly? I assumed that the reliable way of handling this would be to run my own instance and keep it closed for friends I know in real life to use. I don't want to moderate a community, but I also like the reliability (and fun) of self-hosting, and knowing I can just stop using a server if their instance rules change to be against my own principals without losing my user history etc.
How does that mesh with what Lemmy is trying to do? I know I'm going to be in the vast minority here, but I'd like to know if I'm exacerbating load issues.
I am not an expert, but I think join lemmy suggested joining smaller instances and federating.
The load issues are because of users directly connecting to lemmy.ml. Federation isnt using many resources, so its best if users spread out across different instances.
I see that the link to the contribution guide is giving a 404. Is there an updated link?
Which link?
What happened on Monday?
Blackout is next monday.