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System76’s Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Really Nice Linux Laptop

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The System76 Lemur Pro is light, thin, repairable, and upgradeable. It’s the best Linux laptop we’ve tested.

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System76’s Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Really Nice Linux Laptop

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The Lemur Pro starts at $1,150 for an Intel i5 machine with 8 GB of RAM and a 256-GB SSD.

Seems a bit expensive no? About dead on with macbook air pricing

if you're strictly looking at value, it's a better value to buy a macbook air with m2 and the same stats and just install linux on it.
- Only asahi linux works on Apple m chips right? Is it even stable?
  
  No. Asahi unfortunately has a long way to go. Last I checked it didn't even have proper audio.
  
  Ah shit, you're right, pardon my ignorance.
- For the nearly $1500 spec they tested you can basically get a Framework 16, with much better upgradability and a 2560x1600 165hz vrr display.
  
  Yeah actually much better comparison.
- I was doing a similar breakdown back when I bought my System76. The difference was upgradability. If I ever thought I might need more RAM I'd have to buy that up front on the MacBook air, putting its price over 1,700 off the shelf for the max ram. System76 cost close to the base MacBook air model, but I can add RAM and upgrades at my choosing, find the best price, and install them myself when I need them. That was worth it for me.
- I'm pretty sure system76 will would way better with Linux.
- It's definitely ridiculously expensive.
- Install linux on the m2? Is Asahi linux good enough to daily drive already? 😮
  
  (Also, why give Apple money?)
I just can't get over the 1080p screen. It's the one thing that's always held me back from buying a System 76.
- I'm curious. What do you prefer, some larger res with resolution scaling? How's the scaling situation on DEs/WMs nowadays? Last I tried it, it was pretty abysmal. Admittedly it was years ago, but it used to be that mixed scaling wasn't possible, so if my laptop was higher DPI and needed scaling, I'd need to run any external monitor with display scaling as well. I've avoided high DPI/display scaling on purpose for a while at this point because of it, and tend to prioritize usable pixel real estate.
  
  I'm using OpenSUSE Tumbleweed on a Dell XPS 13 9360 with a 3300x1800 13" screen and Wayland, and it works fine. There was one application (Sublime Merge) where I had to edit some scaling configuration settings, and there's one tray-based tool (Jetbrains Toolbox) that comes up tiny, but for everything else the global scaling setting in KDE has done a fine job. It also handles dual monitors with different resolutions.
  
  I don't like 1080 screens because small text becomes unreadable more quickly on them. It's less of an issue with a small screen, but it still counts against a machine for me.
  
  Also a great way to get more performance and increase battery life. On a laptop, most folks would be hard pressed to see the difference between 1080p and a higher resolution.
  
  That's the odd part. I run Pop!_OS on a ThinkPad with a 4K touch screen at 175% scaling and it looks beautiful. The scaling on the DE is superb. I don't understand why they don't offer a HiDPI option on their laptops.
- My bet is that it’s to preserve battery life. Driving hi-res screens takes power.
  
  My 2018er Thinkpad x1 carbon has 1920x1080 and runs over 10 hours. And has better hw suppport than this "Linux Laptop".
- Is it possible to buy a display off some marketplace with the same connector, and hopefully, the display controller plays nice with the motherboard?
  
  I guess, but at that point you might as well get a different laptop rather than void the warranty if the System 76.
  
  They sell laptops with 4k screens.
Modern standby really took things backward for x86 laptops
- What's modern standby?
  
  IIRC it’s something about not actually going to S3 sleep to keep stuff like networking alive
  
  Your CPU never actually sleeps, it stays in S0 (on). The CPU is still active and doing things, but it's in a "low power state".
  
  In quotes because it's not low power at all. On one of my laptops S0 standby gets worse battery life than just actually being on.
- Yeah I mean I get C-states for things that idle a lot, like homeservers, but i still don’t see the reasoning for outright replacing traditional suspend on computers. Now you have to worry if some random pcie device is going to up your consumption by 5 watts during suspension. Well, at least that’s only a big issue on laptops.
  
  Sorry for rambling
Sounds like a great laptop to run Windows on /s

Edit: quite surprising how many people don't understand the /s.
- I like how not even the "/s" saved you from the brainless.
  
  I guess, they, for some reason, do want people to run Windows on that machine^^
  
  Or they are triggered so hard, that they couldn't even understand the /s anymore when they got to that point of the sentence.
- You can. There's nothing stopping you
  
  I thought the /s should have been enough to tell everyone that this was a joke, but apparently not.
1920×1080 FH

Not 2k. Not 16:9. Probably doesn’t even cover DCI-P3 or decent color accuracy. Folks are gonna keep thinking Linux is a geeks-only thing if you have terrible panel that’s bad for content creation.
- 1920×1080 FH
  
  Not 2k. Not 16:9.
  
  How isn't that 19:9?
  
  And QHD isn't really necessary on a laptop imo.
  
  I still won't buy it though.
  
  I have had 1080, 4k, & 2k laptops in my life. 1080 text is blurry. 4k is obviously overkill wasting battery on pixels you can’t see. 2k has crisp text without so much wasted density & you have to get unreasonably close to the panel to tell the difference.
Goddammit, I didn’t need a reason to upgrade my laptop (I have a carbon X1 running Fedora and the failure to suspend drives me bonkers).

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