Sony cracks down on Concord custom servers, issues DMCA takedowns on gameplay videos
Sony cracks down on Concord custom servers, issues DMCA takedowns on gameplay videos
Sony is begging you: please forget about concord
they don't even run their servers anymore, it's not like the fan servers are competing with them...
is sony turning into another nintendo/disney? flexing their copyright muscle just because they can?
Turning into? They’ve always been this way. It’s been like 20 years since they decided it was ok to install rootkits on people’s PCs to protect their IP rights.
Sony has been shit for much longer than 20 years, kiddo.
It's interesting. I did a quick search, and couldn't quickly find many complaints about them before 2000, but technical people complained a lot about Sony products back then. The biggest complaint was that Sony did everything themselves. So, every component inside a piece of electronic equipment was made by Sony, and every time they could get away with it, it would have a custom footprint or custom specs, so that it was impossible to find replacement parts without getting them directly from Sony at huge markups.
They've kinda always been shit to gamers, they just hid it from console gaming; PC gamers frequently got shafted by SOE.
I don’t even think they really hid it from the console space. Their entire PS3 launch was peak hubris. They just don’t step on rakes as much as Microsoft does, and Nintendo would shoot a litter of puppies if it helped them protect their IP rights, so they look better in comparison.
They have always been this way:
Although Sony ultimately did not win any of its lawsuits against them, Bleem! had to shut down when the huge court costs became too much for the small company to handle. Bleem! shut down in November 2001…
Turning into? Sony has been worse than Nintendo or Disney for years. They're the OG "we're going to silently brick your machine to protect our digital assets."
At least Nintendo had the decency to put in their EULA that they're going to fuck you for trying to pirate content on their proprietary hardware. Sony just bricked your personal PC because fuck you and then lied about it.
It's funny - before I actually clicked that link, I assumed it was Sony bricking PSP devices with custom firmware. I'd entirely forgotten they put ROOT KITS on their music CDs. They didn't get in near enough trouble over that.
is sony turning into another nintendo/disney?
A corporation founded during the Showa era will always be anal retentive about intellectual property.
(Nintendo was and still a company making playing cards for decades before it found its bread and butter on handhelds then consoles; Disney was already in the marketing and merchandising game by the 1930s.)
The only reason you think Sony isn’t as bad as Nintendo is because they have better PR (and Nintendo is as bad as you think they are)
I think it's more to do with its ongoing clash against Tencent. If they allow this to keep going, it may damage their chances on that side as well.
So let me get this straight... They're still burning money on Concord through legal costs? Just walk away guys.
They really want people to forget all about Concord.
Once in a while Sony reconfirms my choice to boycott them since the rootkit CD scandal in the 00s.
I've made a whole series of purchase decisions based on similar motivation. For decades I've avoided DSLRs, consoles, games, phones, tablets and a whole bunch of products made by Sony. I pirate what I can, everything else is just off-limits.
The only exception I make is used consoles since I know they hate that the used market exists. Even then, they haven't really put out anything worth getting since ps2.
Same. I'll never make the mistake of purchasing a Sony product ever again
They make some pretty good bluetooth headphones though...
I've been using Bose Quiet Comfort noise reduction headphones for almost 2 decades now, ever since I had to do software development in a large open space office alongside the noisy business-side types (this was in Investment Banking - so whilst not a heavy-machinery-noisy environment, certain the top range of office noisy) and those they were very good already back then (I'm still using at home the first model I got, after replacing the ear-pads which is what gets damaged over time).
The QC 3.5 and onwards have bluetooth AND also a wired connection as fallback (which I have had to use with devices without bluetooth).
Of course, you pay for it (last ones I got were €250 if I remember it correctly), but then again they last a long time (as I said, the first ones, now almost 2 decades old, are still work fine even if the outside is all scratched up and they're now on the 5th or 6th pair or earpads).
I very much doubt Sony one's are anywhere close to that, especially given that the quality of Sony devices took a massive dive in the late 90s when top level management which until then was dominated by the Engineering side was taken over by the Media side took over (before they used to be known for the high quality of their electronics).
I think I've boycotted sony for one thing or the other for the large part of my adult life. Only backed down in 2021 and bought some shares. Time to return back to normal I guess.
They really hate their own fans. Be aware of that next time you purchase any Sony product.
I stopped buying anime when they bought up all the major NA distributors.
Had to laugh, here I am scrolling Lemmy and see a post about those server existing, random post next, then this one.
Hurry! Release the server code on the high seas before the Sony lawyers find you!!!
How weird is it that there are people who liked Concord so much that they spent all of their time and money to get something patched together just so they could play it again.
Didn't it overwhelmingly bomb and had like no players towards the end?
Anyways good for them and screw Sony lawyers.
IIRC, it wasn’t a terrible game. It just wasn’t a unique enough game to compete in the space. Just another hero shooter. Just another live service. And thus it failed to meet overinflated expectations. Sony didn’t give it any time to grow or adapt.
Sony went all in on live service games, expecting them to all do gangbusters and to do so for forever. Their high expectations are slipping and failing to be met with Destiny. They bought Bungie for live service games too.
Oh, and Marathon. That one is in a precarious spot. Being delayed after an unexpectedly rough public beta.
Sony seemed to want it to fail. Reviewers only got their hands on it shortly before release. Most didn’t like it. Marvel Rivals was dropping soon. It was doomed.
Its become Cartmanland to me. I want to check it out. I wouldn't pay for it, but I want to check it out.
StopKillingGames? More like StopMurderingGamesAndExecutingThemInColdBlood.
Assholes
My understanding is they refunded everyone who bought it.
Still dumb for them to do this, don't mistake me.
Pissing off perhaps the only fans of this failure lol
you'd think they would be happy people are going out of their way to preserve the service. It gives them excuse to shut down their servers if they can point to these. but nope
Oh it's never about that. You can't milk a game that lives for free. Although they pay for publicity (ads, etc.), getting it for free means less cash flow, means less numbers on quarterly earnings, means less investor money.
It is always about the number on their bank account, never about you, me, or anyone else. They don't give a flying fuck, they'd happily let us burn in a house fire if it meant just a teensy bit more dollars.
Fuck Sony, Nintendo, EA, Ubisoft, ActiBlizzosoft, and the rest of them.
It gives them excuse to shut down their servers if they can point to these.
I'm pretty sure they already shut down all their servers. They refunded everyone and try to forget the game ever happened.
It all comes down to Japanese peoples' beliefs. They see modding their games as a shameful behavior because they compare it to plagiarism. As ridiculous as it is, they see it as stealing their ideas instead of coming up with your own. In their eyes you should be making your own game from scratch instead of ressurecting theirs.
It's the same reason why Nintendo is so god damn evil. In their eyes they're doing the honorable thing by suing their own customer base.
They see modding their games as a shameful behavior
Seems some of them are avowed purists.
They also think modding is a form of cheating, as in supposedly breaking the game mechanics, forgetting that some games are good visually but have awful difficulty or needing more immersion.
There's isn't even an IP argument to be had. They abandoned the game, so why pay a lawyer to sewsue?
Edit to correct.
so why pay a lawyer to sew?
I hate to be that person but just in case you wanted to know, it's spelled sue.
IANAL but, just because they abandoned the game doesn't mean they don't own the IP. It's still their IP and unfortunately IP laws everywhere suck ass. IP law only works if you defend your IP. If you don't defend it then it can weaken IP protection on other IP you own. Even if you don't actively use the IP you still need to defend it to keep up protection on your other IP.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
So how can we help set up more servers to cost them even more legal fees?
I'm new to the Linux scene, but if you find a bot that does this, I'll totally run it.
Another DMCA abuse
So, it's all about control, at the end.
Thank you everyone for giving them money so they can use that money against us.
So DMCA takedowns are only for gameplay videos, they haven't sent any takedown (or any other) notice to whoever is hosting / running / developing the custom server code.
It will be interesting to see how it progresses.
You can’t go after the server devs without those streamers publicizing the takedowns. The better choice is to hit streamers then nuke the servers once people forget about the game.
Sony: we think it's the gamers fault the game isn't successful.
gamers: hey, can we play it then?
Sony: fuck off
Nintendo: I am the shittiest!
Sony: Hold my beer...
Because of course they would, what a bunch of dicks.
Must be nice to simply write off 250+ million. Sony needs to be broken up.
I thought the 250m was fake news?
Edit:
According to video game podcast host Colin Moriarty, citing an unnamed Concorddeveloper, the game had development costs of $400 million, although this figure was disputed by several PlayStation developers on social media.
Reacting to the game's reported development cost of $400 million, Christopher Dring, head of GamesIndustry.biz, questioned media reports that took the figure seriously: "No game has that dev budget. The press reports are the laughing stock of the industry. Concord didn't even get any above-the-line marketing spend."
Idk I heard grand theft fuck your union 6 has a budget of 1.5 billion. Maybe also fake news but... yeah.
Also star citizen is a thing but thats a whole other can of space worms.
Are people still having anything to do with Sony? The absolutly worst compny ever, Comcast is second place. Complete shit.
Man, can’t have nothing!
Sony being wankers? No surprise there
more like sony is begging people to forget about sony. Even when people do something that could benefit them they punish them. (concord failed, but this way there could have been a chance people might have gotten interested in it again and they could have tried opening official servers again, with basically no risk, and start selling the game again). They rather eat up millions of losses than give ANY agency to the users. And ultimately, isnt this just people trying to make the game they paid for work? How is this different from a scam anyway? They got what little money they got and those who gave it to them got nothing for it.
Dont buy anything shitty companies like this make. By doing so you enable them and are part of the problem.
How dare they try and play a game they paid for.
Sony refunded everyone who bought the game though.
A seller doesn’t get to walk in your home, hand you a check and take your couch. The same should not be allowed for digital goods. A voluntary refund should never revoke ownership rights. But we don’t actually have ownership rights any more, do we? Or any rights.
There was a physical release
To be fair, everyone was offered a refund for that game. So technically they probably haven‘t paid for it anymore.
I still totally agree that Sony shouldn‘t go after private Concord servers. This game is very interesting, because it was an unbelievable failure despite having pretty solid gameplay. And preserving that on private servers provides a great way for other developers to learn, and maybe prevent, the tons of other issues leading to the game‘s failure.