Republican party right now

Is that what this is a screenshot from? I thought this was that journalist who’s married to the state legislator in Idaho. I want to say Susan in the evening? Not her?

It's not even an allegiance to "National Socialism" or the NSDAP, per se.

Some people are aroused by the prospect of telling people, with impunity, that they or their group are in charge of everything forever and everyone has to applaud it on pain of torture and death.

They have a perverse, sometimes sexual, stimulation at the prospect of threatening, abusing, and submitting people to their doctrine of what they unilaterally deem to be the natural order of things.

Simply put, they feed, at every level, on the pain and misery they cause.

Naziism is just an ideology that appeals to some common instincts, which becomes an issue when enough of them are in precarity that they warm up to making the ideas policy.

It doesn't make for a very good state. Incompetence and nepotism rises to the top. Data driven science is tossed aside for ideology-driven rhetoric. Officials govern on vibes resulting in famine, plague and war. Also the country turns into the very kind of shithole it accuses other nations of being.

Eventually, you have bombers from rival countries blocking the the sun over the capitol. International tribunals exercise judgement and enforce their law, since the nazis failed to provide rule of law to their own. Children pick up pieces of the trainwreck.

And we learn (or fail to learn) once again why we don't let the fascist autocrats take over, even when they are very, very rich.

We in the US have a choice: clean up the mess early, or let China clean it up for us. And China will make us jolly sorry if we make them clean it up. We'll be their buggery bitch for a century or two at least.

"Er ist wieder da" was the most depressing comedy movie of the decade. ("Don't look up" is this decade's winner)

It gets even more depressing when you learn that many of the public scenes are NOT scripted, they're literally a guy in a hitler suit, out in public, think Borat, but with nazis.

It's a pretty good watch, I think it was free on youtube when I saw it a couple years ago.

Edit: yup still on there, with English subtitles

https://youtu.be/WiiUm7v0ilo

You spend eighty years rehabilitating nazis to fight socialism, you get nazis and no socialism.

his situation is different from magats.

Accurate username.

If it quacks like a duck...

Seems like your discomfort is showing. Might want to tuck that back in.

We have people in power who explicitly want to exterminate minorities (see those leaked text messages) and we have a sizeable population willing to trust and empower those people. It's not bending the definition to call them Nazis.

They didn't build Auschwitz the day after Hitler got appointed chancellor. They built up to it. I don't know how you can look at a government that's literally building and populating concentration camps with people who haven't broken the law and clutch pearls about calling them Nazis until they scale up sufficiently. The best thing you can honestly call them is proto-nazis.

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Plenty of words we now use today started out referring to people in a specific time and place.

Further, what's the use of remembering the horrors of the Nazis if we don't recognize the early warning signs of those same horrors today? The "National Socialist German Workers' Party" was around for over a decade before they started the holocaust. It seems like too little too late to wait until the genocide begins to start drawing parallels.

In theory you are not wrong but you ignore that language evolves, in modern times it means someone agrees or at least sympathizes with NSDAP ideology/ideas and no "they don't hate Jews so they are different" is not an excuse Nazis back in the days only chose Jews because they were a minority and could be blamed for everything.

Wile I respect your point of view here, you seem to be missing the fact that Nazis didn't just go away at the end of WWII. Many former Nazis ended up in powerful business and political positions post-wwii, and the ideas maintained popularity with the people the were popular with. This transitioned into neo-nazi-ism, white power skinheads, Aryan Nation, Aryan, brotherhood, modern German AFD part, the 3rd wave of the KKK, countless militia movements, and on and on and on. These all have a direct lineage with the actual Nazis from WWII. When we call these people Nazis, it's not because we're being hyperbolic about their beliefs, it's because they are Nazis.

The US is nothing like Nazi Germany, the Nazi concentration camps had trains.

You: "Calling people klansmen just because you don't like their beliefs or opinions belittles what blacks went through. Racist? Sure, but don't change history"

Guy in a Klan hood beside you: "yeah what he said"

"I do have a Nazi streak"

• Paul Ingrassia

Did all "nazis" actively do crimes against humanity? Whats the bar they have to hit to be a nazi? Put on a uniform? shoot a roma? say non-aryans are sub human? You want to draw a bright line between national socialists and racists, I'm not going to stop you, but I think nazi is just short hand for bootlicking people who enable the dehumanizing of others at this point in time.

What word would you prefer?

I agree with all the other comments in this thread. And I would also add that Republicans modus operandi is closer to to German nazis than Italian fascists.

Fascists used violence, an open coup and support from the existing monarchy and government to gain control. Nazis tried the same thing first and failed miserably so next they ran elections and slowly subverted parliamentary democracy to gain the same control. Once they had enough support in parliament they ramped up the violence of the SA militias (equivalent to ICE) to gain a majority and be uncontested.

Well, you're a fucking idiot.

Nazi was a derogatory term used against the national socialist party but was eventually embraced in defiance. Let's not change history and make nazi some kind of honored title.

I suppose you believe the Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is democratic too.

Go home, grammar Nazi, your ignorance of how linguistic usage determines meaning is showing

Your opinion isn't unpopular, it is objectively wrong.

This is a lot of text for the distinction between Nazi and neo Nazi. Neo Nazis commit atrocities, murders within their limited capabilities. They are (on some level) the same.

Shut the fuck up.

I think you're getting the downvotes (and I think I saw a few others mention this) because your argument is rooted in the word keeping the exact definition it was historically created in.

People who 'simp' for China are not 'Mao apologists' but that'd be a fine enough term for me to understand exactly who, in the modern day, is being insulted.

In similar fashion, no, existing fascists in the republican party are not literally National Socialist German Workers' Party members, but they DO have a lot of similarities to the values and actions we have distilled down over the last 80 years that we attribute to 'Nazis'.

So, no, they're not Nazis, but to call them such isn't to 'change history...' as you put it, and is instead a means of identifying extreme and harmful beliefs with an existing, demonized (for good reason) label to accent the severity of their beliefs as they compare to modern sensibilities related to freedom.

They downvoted you because you became a Dictionary Nazi, the Grammar Nazi's even less-liked younger brother

Where does the meaning come from? God? Are we in a video game where someone programmed words to have specific meaning? I never understood where the root authority comes from. Many people are using Nazi to describe fascists but if you can't derive meaning from how people use words... where does the authority come from?

It doesn’t matter if you put your ding in the dong, the damage you cause is the same.

And I feel like anyone making arguments like this has already assaulted and thinks something like “ehh wasn’t rapping so can’t be too bad, no?” while being a human disgrace…

Ooof.

prescriptivists are lingual nazis

Yeah, I prefer fascist autocrat to make sure people know I'm not fucking around. But nazi (lower case) is a fine shorthand. Neo-nazi almost suggests we're talking about a non-mainstream movement. MAGA if I want to be specific.

I refer to NSDAP when talking about the German Worker's Socialist Party that wasn't really all that socialist and got a lot of funding from Benz and Bavarian Motor Works, and had no small thing for Wagner's version of the Wotanic mythos.

Language evolves. Many words have roots in other words with similar meanings.
The word Nazi has evolved to describe people who in a group together think they are better as the rest and deserve to punish them for existing since a long time ago.