Marjorie Taylor Greene Calls For United States to Be Split Up, Declares Country ‘No Longer Safe’ For Anyone
Marjorie Taylor Greene Calls For United States to Be Split Up, Declares Country ‘No Longer Safe’ For Anyone
Split up the USA… who would benefit from that most? Ah yes Russia and China. As if any more proof that the US government are assets.
Regardless of what would benefit anyone, a (supposedly) democratic country cannot continue having such a massive divide between its government and its citizens. Something has to give.
I would hope the government would give. There’s a lot more of us than them.
Well, it's pretty clear that democracy is what we gave up.
I mean, have you ever worked on a Russian engine? They suck.
I kind of agree honestly. We dont have the kind of leadership that brings people together. We could have, but we dont. Until we have more Bernie Sanders types (aka, responsible adults who consider everyone a stakeholder) there is no hope for unity.
No way the red state faction stays peaceful, as soon as they fuck something up they'll deflect blame on to the blue state faction and start doing airstrikes on us to distract
e; Also, this red state faction could never ever ever be allowed to have a nuclear arsenal or we would all be very fucked, so that's another big hurdle to any kind of breakup plan
As soon as they realize all the money went with the blue states they'll start invading.
They wouldn't be able to uphold the industrial capacity without blue states. At least Russia has oil and Siberian resources. The fuck would they have? Texas is barely holding together and oil extraction may not be maintained on a large enough scale and Alaska is weird and would probably join the blue states.
Lol, saying this as if red states won't turn into a third world country as soon as they're cut off from federal aid.
In Republican's fever dream scenario, they'd consider splitting the nation up to be marooning 200 million people at gunpoint stranded to die standing room only on a military embargoed Puerto Rico. They'd call that perfectly fair and not mass murder.
Get your logic out of here as to why that isn't possible.
And as if they would even be content with their own land and wouldn't continuously try to spread their nonsense in every possible direction regardless of whether people want to hear it or not.
Source: am in Canada
We need to build.. a wall
/s
I agree. I don't care what her reasoning is.
A Pacific States of America would be able to effectively defend itself and would be one of the largest economies in the world. It would be able to make progress on climate change and would have better corporate and banking governance. It would be more accountable to its citizens. It could feed its own citizens through agriculture.
Let the Northeast split off as well. Form a mutual defense pact with the Pacific States. Ban propagandist media like Fox News in those countries and leave the citizens of the remaining so-called United States to let themselves be manipulated into poverty and serfdom.
I'm glad she doesn't feel safe anymore
Oh, suddenly it's not safe for everyone when one of their own gets killed...
It's not safe partly because this treasonous little troll hasn't kept her mouth shut for the past dacade.
Well, looks like Putin's 4D chess worked even better than he could have anticipated. The US want to dissolve themselves now. Crazy how the world changed in just 10 years.
It’s not at all crazy- it’s been happening for two generations in slow motion with warning signs along the way. Literally everyone watching has been telling you you have been on this exact path for about 30 years.
You responded with “shut up, you’re America’s hat,” renamed french fries, and gradually got shittier from there.
Who are you talking to? Rupert Murdock?
Assholes like this crazy bitch have been saying this kind of thing for years.
That always works in horror movies to boost safety: let's split up!
so, beneath the sarcasm, you are very essentially correct.
We'll sacrifice the weakest states to survive.
The USA is currently united in the same way the DPRK is democratic, and Nazi’s are socialist.
So some statistics on MTG's 'No Longer Safe' for anyone:
Huh....
Sounds like a scam.
Anyway, I don't think we should tolerate red states letting kids grow up hungry or get bullied to death.
That's what federation was for.
NGL, everyone here who is ready to throw the browns, gays, and neurospicies, and 70% bottom earning sapiens from half of u.s. states under the bus instead of slaying the gerrymander that's choking everyone to death...?
Idk. Sounds kind of like "If I sacrifice the other family to the face eating jaguar the face eating jaguar won't eat my face and my family next month."
Sounds too familiar. We all know how that goes.
I like the idea of red and blue splitting up. Let's see how long those shit holes take to fester and rot from within. Red states are nothing but a drain. Fuck em.
Anyone under the delusion that splitting a country can be peaceful should research any split since the idea of nationalism took hold. India and Pakistan are still the odds on favorite to kill us all with a nuclear winter.
This reminds me of the spike in cellular biophoton emissions during mitosis.
Biophoton emissions, basically a faint glow of light emitted by living cells due to metabolic processes, increase sharply at the moment a cell replicates into two cells. It appears as a flash if observing these emissions.
There is a lot to learn about our ideal society by observing our biological processes. The human body is a good example of a functioning mass-scale social substrate. The representative sample that guides the body is billions of neurons. Considering a human body has around 37 trillion cells, and roughly 170 billion brain cells (86 billion neurons + 85 billion non-neural brain cells), that gives us around a 200:1 representative sample. For every 200 cells, there is 1 representative.
Fascinating, isn't it? Dunbar's number states humans can only keep track of a limited number of relationships. That number is a cognitive limit of around 150 stable relationships that we can keep track of. The limit's range has been stretched to 100 - 250 stable relationships.
In other words...the ratio of brain cells to other cells is nearly the same as Dunbar's number. It is reasonable to conclude, then, for a functioning society (because human bodies are far more functional than our planetary society), we need to have a ratio limit on representation. That limit is 200:1. For every 200 people, we need 1 representative.
For the US, for example, with 347 million people, a stable government would need 1.7 million representatives. Sounds crazy, doesn't it, compared to the ass backwards mechanism at play now? But think about it for a bit, and you will find why it is so stable.
That is too many people for an elite to control. It is too many to be corrupted. It adds redundancy. It adds direct accountability, each rep would have a personal relationship with their people, because it is within the Dunbar limit of what they can keep track of.
Something to think about.
I’m not aware of any major strife between Czechia and Slovakia
Czechoslovakia was a combination of two historically distinct ethnic groups, so there was relatively little "sorting" during the partisan in the wake of the USSR's collapse.
Compared to the break up of Yugoslavia or the "Two State Solution" in Israel, it was utopian. But that's a hold over of the pre-WWs ethnic make up of these regions. You don't have anything like this in the much more internally diverse and mixed populations of the US.
Furthermore, over the last five years, the high rate of undocumented immigration and smuggling has lead to Czechnia tightening its border. We may see a rise in ethnic nationalism create friction in the future.
To add to the other response the leaders of both nationalities were veterans of the Prague Spring. They had no appetite for more violence. Could you truly say the same of the US?
Congratulations on finding a split I missed though.
States would have to be split as well, and random chunks of states. And soon as anyone says, "how do we split up the national debt" people would say huh, impossible to split.
Canada calls dibs on the west coast!
California resident here. I would be SO down with that- as long as there's an impenetrable wall to our East.
Cascadia calls dibs on Canada 😈
Pls take us Michiganders 🙏
You know, if you guys stop being so goddamned violent, everyone would be very safe.
JFC, this isn't rocket science.
CASCADIA NOW!!!
Lol sure
As a show of good faith, call back ICE from all the blue states and never send them back
As much as many of us would welcome it, the reality is that the new MAGA country would declare war on us immediately.
Lol, just using the same language where they justify bombing any other country. We have to kill them so they can have our freedoms.
Sounds like a win-win situation to me.
bingo
I don't think that's such a bad idea. The richest states are blue, the poorest states are red. The entire country is a failed state already, might be good to start with a clean slate. And doing that without the need of a bloody revolution sounds good to me.
The richest states are blue, the poorest states are red.
But the richest parts of the bluest states are bankrolling this administration. California's Silicon Valley is awash in fascism. New York's Staten Island has an enormous base of Trump support. Washington's Amazon, Microsoft, and Beoing C-levels are all in the tank for this administration.
Also, there are plenty of wealthy red states - Texas, Florida, Ohio, and Georgia are all in the top 10 by GDP. There are plenty of poor communities in these big red states that are disproportionately liberal.
There are plenty of purple states that can't be divided by trivially. What do you do with a Pennsylvania or Virginia or Wisconsin, with a divided government and regular partisan swing?
The entire country is a failed state already, might be good to start with a clean slate
This wouldn't be any kind of clean slate. Everyone would still be carrying their political baggage with them.
And much of the economy of these states is interdependent. Water rights from the Mississippi and Colorado run through divided turf. California and New York both need access to ports along the Gulf Coast to operate solvently. "Fly Over" states like Iowa and Nebraska produce giant food surpluses. We still need all our transcontinental rail networks, highways, and airlines to function as state level economies.
This isn't a baby you can just split down the middle
In that the two biggest calls for a split are from Elon and this hag, I'm going to say it's not in our best interests and work against it.
Do it.
Blue states can grab the popcorn and watch red states cannibalize themselves.
But conservatives will use the federal government to go to war to keep the blue states....because they need us.
We don't need them.
She's right. It's not safe. Good thing her side gets all the deep red, gun-loving terrorists who've committed all of the recent atrocities. I'm sure her new country will be really safe with all those people in it.
People in economically productive cities: "does this mean we can do a gun control?"
And stop sending our tax revenue to unappreciative red states who just take take take, and then whine about it while offering nothing of value.
If the US balkanized along party lines, it wouldn't even be months before they revert to a scavenger society carrying out raids on border towns, and begging bleeding hearts in blue cities for charity.
As neat as it sounds, the logistics would be a nightmare. Remember, Republicans don't follow the rules, so encouraging Democrats to leave the south is easier than having Republicans leave the west coast for example. They want things to affect us, not them.
I think the nightmare is the point. It's easy to do a lot of stabing and stealing in the middle of Changing Literaly Everything. Why don't we make ourselves vulnerable by putting everything in transition and see how much can get embezzled in a year.
DOGE mercs already walked out with any data they could get. Weird mozilla didn't e-mail me about the security breach./jk
I just don't understand how she sees this happening. We get the cities and they get the farms? She's such an idiot.
We get the healthcare, they got the food. We got the jobs, they got the ... food. We got the infrastructure, they got... hey guys you need to diversify here, we don't do trading imbalances and you're going to need MRIs
Me and the Union guys can renovate that office building into apartments, with a hydroponics farm in the basement, space for a doctor's office, maybe a makerspace and a few resident-centric server racks.
They've got... Dustbowls incoming and ammo stockpikes that may or may not wither during one hunting season or another.
1: plenty of nations trade for food
2: https://usabynumbers.com/states-ranked-by-agricultural-production/
It starts with her then gradually others "decide" (as if they don't already have this all planned the fuck out) to join her. Eventually other states kind of trickle away and Congress and just kind of agrees to dissolve the union.
Red states leave to form "super states"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union
Then this is just a guess but the combined National Guard of the new super states probably eventually just invade blue states regardless of if they try to hold out as part of the union.
Bc it seems like they've been training for this for a while. Blue cities in Red states being used to test authoritarian take over
Mississippi National Guard readies for disaster response drill
“Vigilant Guard 2025,” will take place May 12-18. It will give participants the opportunity to activate and employ their response plans to improve mission command, relationships, and interoperability among federal, state, and local agencies.
Guardsmen from Mississippi, along with those from Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and Wyoming, the ability to command a statewide response to a major disaster in coordination with the Mississippi and Tennessee Emergency Management Agencies
He was thinking either the British Empire would reconquer America or that he could never make abolition happen.
Not safe for whom? Is there a split that would divide Kirk and the shooter?
Dead/living
Canada could annex the blue states and turn them into provinces...
The great lakes finally united
I declare myself a refugee. Can I get healthcare?
"annex" in the sense of "🥺️👉️👈️"
what people get from foreign invasions is a change of government, so they often even support this. but i doubt canada would be up for it, considering how much stress it could bring to them.
Mostly a comment about Trump's 51st state rhetoric.
Nah. I personally am enjoying watching the Republican farmers suffer. It is cathartic to see them cry. It is a sliver of joy in my heart to watch them beg. Afterall, this is what they voted for.
Agree, lets all stick the politicians and billionaires on an island in the pacific. Then America will be safe again.
There's an island many of them have visited frequently already...
I feel sorry for the Pacific.
Literally fought the deadliest war in US history over this...
Which would matter if she cared about history. Or objective reality.
Don't threaten Republicans with learning history. These kids would be so angry if they could read.
For once, I agree with her. Please let us leave.
only downside is throwing all the minorities in red states under the bus.
if that happens, I hope they get to flee to safety
honestly, they're already under the bus.
That’s the thing. Most black people live in traitor states. We’d have to get them out first.
Oh, then they could have a real war instead of a civil war, diabolical.
I see this on signs outside sometimes. I always wonder where the fuck they think the line will be though... The people who believe this shit generally live in the middle of nowhere and all the cities are deep blue so there isn't a red state/blue state divide, it's basically the network city state thing the yarvinists want but even that makes no sense because there aren't really any red cities to form around
Shh, it will be funny.
The thing is the blue states will hold together just fine.
Let's let the red states do their crony network. See how long it takes the rurals to realize they've been played.
I hate to say it, but I agree with mtg here. Cascasdia now!
Anyone saying they agree with the idea shouldn’t be. It won’t turn out how you imagine if it actually comes to pass under this admin.
Even better. Slice it into three parts. East, west and middle.
East and west can be one and middle can be on its own.
Oh fuck of course! I knew this shit was coming. This is exactly what happened in Russia.
Not a surprise bc the heritage foundation was behind that shit too
1991: Russia House, Trading in Its Name
Paul Weyrich was the co founder of Heritage. One minute he was in Moscow teaching dissidents about holding elections and sneaking in computers and fax machines.
The next the Soviet Union had collapsed and the Heritage Foundation had helped create the first of its kind go between for U.S. and Russia business as Russia embraced "capitalism."
Real life fucking Hydra
The Heritage Foundation needs to be disbanded and treated like the terrorist organisation it is.
Yeah but it's not just Heritage. The offshoots that sprang from Heritage are like the entirety of the current Republican party.
Like that guy Paul Weyrich died in his 50s, but he helped create so much shit over his relatively short career. He also founded the Free Congress Foundation and the Council for National Policy, which is like the most shadowy organization of right wing extremists and business men. Somebody wrote a book about it a few years ago, Shadow Network
This isn't even his complete list of political affiliations
Split into the conservative leecher states and the progressive earner states? How will they finance their new conservative utopia? Hate only feeds you that long...
slavery, then war, more enslaving, more war. repeat.
Weaponized stupidly.
Anyone else find it really jarring that MTG has some good takes here and there lately? First Gaza, now this? I mean, she's still clearly the same awful hag as always, but the cynic in me wonders if she's trying to rehab her image or something after all the heinous shenanigans.
I am down with that, I'll stand with all the productive blue states, GOP Nazis can take the bible belt and Southern 'confederacy'.
I'll happily trade houses with someone in the West who wants to join their conservative bretheren.
Pretty sure they're going to form super states like post Soviet countries, weaken the remaining union as much as they can, and then send national guard from super states to invade blue states.
Fuck man, I'm in the middle of all that fucking bible belt out. you'll have a lot of us trying to get the hell out.
Honestly, we still are now.
Right? Guess we don't matter? Except if we leave, the random queer and neurospicy kids grow up with 0 examples and are completly PTSD'ed even if they do make it out.
Sounds great. /s
Too many people still intuit that people they percieve as stupid will produce inferior offspring. We're more like apple trees --- There are a lot of things can't be cut out of nature by humans even with crispr. There's a lot of emergence, and odds.
The first and last 6 minutes of Idiocracy need to be reshot to demo the effect of chronic poverty on human development instead of Eugenics "dumb ppl make dumb ppl like disney boygirl offspring looks like parents". All that environmental and emotional and nutritional neglect add up to medical grade damage for everyone, in diverse effect.
It would mean they get the means of food production.
Does this mean they think they are going to lose it again and wants to ensure they get to keep half?
Indeed, with the Nazi-US GeStaPo roaming and randomly arresting, the USA is no longer safe. The MAGA States of America can keep them, so that normal people can live in peace.
Does this mean Dixie goes its own way with a shiny new government? Hmm.
I mean, slavery is technically over and you either believe in self determination or you don't.
if folks don't count unpaid prison work, underpaid disability work, wage gap, starving wages, immigrant labor abuse, outsourcing to "economic opportunity zones" where labor laws are suspended, domestic and sex trafficking ....
sorry, what were we on about?
As soon as they are free from the Federal government, at least some of those red states are going to reinstitute some form of slavery.
I actually don't disagree (which is twice now that MTG and I agree on conclusions, albeit for incredibly different and opposed reasons--i can't tell whether this is just early onset dementia, which runs in my family after all), but i can't help but doubt she understands how utterly economically devastating this would be for red states. Nevertheless, sure, northeastern autonomy--from the tippy tip of Maine down to DC and west to Philly.
Economic devastation is an inevitable result of making policy divorced from objective reality. Let the religious lunatics feel the FO part of FAFO.
Pakistan and Palestine would like to weigh in
Mtg like when pond scum catches the sunlight at golden and hour and just kind of completes the scene.
It's weird that this woman has said, four things I agree with lately, but in the light of full day pond scum is still pond scum.
I've been calling it the Untied States for months, I think few people have noticed
Silly question. Would they get called NUSA (Not so United States of America)?
DSA (Divided States of America).
That isn't meme-able.
Needs to be some dumb shit like
FROG: Federation Reborn Outside Government
Then they'll share more Pepe memes
That would cost to much in rebranding. UnUnited States of America can still use the same T-shirts.
MTG basically wants North America to have small countries like Africa.
Agreed
If a blue country does come about. , let's just all agree religious places of worship are just banned and religion is never talked about publicly. Anything public is a heavy fine.
Intolerant hate speech is also no longer allowed except towards nazis
And religion, apparently
France's right to freedom from religion seems a decent starting point, though I think it needs some work in regards to religious dress.
Banning religion really isn't a good idea. Look at what happened in the Soviet Union. But banning and rigorously enforcing religious interference in politics is a much more sensible and fair strategy. It's also one that the United States used to have until numerous administrations refused to enforce the ban.
I don't think the country can afford to pay for everyone one to move to a star of their color choice.
You're forgetying we just do genocide rather than pay invoices.
Fascists would do the Trail of Tears again on a weekend just for fun. (Deathmarch)
It will be true that it will be way more expensive for Red Staters to move to Blue states. Since Red States already have shittier and weaker economies.
My little part of the world certainly isn't safe for her specifically.
That cunt gives Sasquatches a bad name.
Greene was quickly denounced at the time. Utah Governor Spencer Cox ( R) slammed Greene’s call to split the country as “evil,” and former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) added that “Secession is unconstitutional. No member of Congress should advocate secession, Marjorie.”
Hmm glad those states aren't on board with some kind of far right conspiracy plan.
Mississippi National Guard readies for disaster response drill
“Vigilant Guard 2025,” will take place May 12-18. It will give participants the opportunity to activate and employ their response plans to improve mission command, relationships, and interoperability among federal, state, and local agencies.
Guardsmen from Mississippi, along with those from Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and Wyoming, the ability to command a statewide response to a major disaster in coordination with the Mississippi and Tennessee Emergency Management Agencies
No idea if this is just coincidence, but kinda weird this "drill" took place a few months ago on the border between TN and MS right outside of Memphis. Where Trump currently happens to be deploying the national guard...
I agree, you can go to Greenland with the rest of your wacko cultists and the rest will stay here.
I don't think Greenland would welcome them.
wdym? They would definitely send a welcoming party
How would it work exactly? It's not like most people could just up and move. Unless you do it by id system. Blue you get out in a national healthcare type system. Red you keep paying the health insurance companies.
Blue vs blue crime, blue judge. Red vs red, red judge. Red vs blue crime the criminal to go face whatever the victim or plantiff is.
But as far as a leading president, no idea how that would work
She's not wrong. I don't understand why our country hasn't gone through divorce hearings yet.
Careful what you wish for.
Awesome, let me know when the estate sale starts.
"it's not safe for anyone"...... Because you're actively making it that way, Margarine Thermometer Greed. Jfc conservatives are so fucking stupid and disingenuous. Repeated school shootings aren't a major issue, but as soon as the bullets start landing on them, the pearls get clutched. It's so transparent and pathetic.
Traitor was right there... 🤦♂️
😦
Look at the bright side.
At least Republicans are finally upset about a school shooting.