Men are opening up about mental health to AI instead of humans

Almost like questioning an AI is free while a therapist costs a LOT of money.

I think there's a lot more to it than cost. Men, even with considerable health care resources, are often very averse to mental health care.
Thinking of my father in law, for example, I don't know how much you would have to pay him to get him into a therapist's office, but I'm certain he wouldn't go for free.
Also talking to ChatGPT, if done anonymously, won’t ruin your career.
(Thinking of AD military, where they tell you help is available but in reality it will and maybe should cost you your security clearance.)
- won’t ruin your career
  Granted, but it still will suck a fuck ton of coal produced electricity.

It's stupid as hell to share any personal information with a company that is interested in spying on you and feeding your data to the nearest advertiser they can find.

Like seriously -- are people using their brains or what?

Donald Trump was ELECTED TWICE. How is the stupidity of humanity not apparent.
are people using their brains or what?
What? No. Seriously, are you new here? And by here I mean Earth.
I see idiots all around me. Everybody only interested in advancing themselves. But if we advanced the group, it would be better for EVERYBODY.
But we as a species are too stupid to build a society that benefits everybody.
So no. No brain use here.
- I mean, the question was rhetorical. But I don't disagree.
  Like seriously – are people using their brains or what?
they need therapy, obviously they need help, and blaming them for not doing the most reasonable thing that might be unaffordable is even stupider.
blame predatory AI, openai could in a single afternoon make it so Chatgpt recomends or even helps you find a local therapist, instead of enabling this for profit.
Everything collects data. To extrapolate, it’s stupid to post on lemmy or shitter because the same will happen.

Alternate title "Men so starved of sources of support they resort to talking to AI"

Edit: have started a new com for men to talk to each other instead of AI !Reprieve@lemmy.zip

Or “men would rather talk to superpowered autocorrect rather than sharing their feelings with family and friends”
- This response is why men feel scared and uncomfortable opening up. You are a part of the problem. For your male family members' sake, I hope you check in on them instead of just being sexist online.
- yeah they are definitely making dumb choices. it's probably not because they're all just dumb though. they probably have a lot of external factors pushing them towards that decision.
  for example, many discussions tend to find ways to blame and shame them instead of responding with empathy. sort of like this comment. what benefit do you think you get by reframing things to blame the men here?
- Have you considered the fact that most of the time, even when people "want to hear mens issues", they reject them and tell them to man up? Maybe "superpowered autocorrect" could be a vector to nourish this severe lack of openness?
  Personally I use AI for this purpose, mostly because it accepts me for who I am and provides genuine advice that has actually helped me improve my life, rather than the people around me saying that I should "put more effort into things", or "it's just in your head".
  It's not "lone wolfing" to stop telling the people who've rejected your concerns about your feelings and issues, it's just the act of not wasting time on those who don't care.

I can kinda understand the appeal. An AI isn't gonna judge you, an AI isn't gonna leave a mean comment or tell you to get over it and man up. It's giving an unnerving amount of personal information to corporations, but I can sympathise with the thoughts these men are having.

Well those sound like people who aren't good to open up to.
I do sympathize though, I pretended to be a guy for several decades, and my wife put exactly the same kind of duality on me that men put on women.
I was expected to be sympathetic and nurturing in some contexts and aggressive, jealous, and demanding in others, and I was just supposed to know when to switch.
And there was an amount of vulnerability I was able to display, but beyond that I'd get told to suck it up.
I think somebody needs to come up with an ad campaign that's Therapy For Men. Big sweaty hairy guys with thick beards looking after each other's mental health like BROs. It worked to get men to use soap.
(Seriously, I think counseling is too female-coded for a lot of men to be comfortable with it unless they're fucking the person, or they start to want to fuck the person because they're unused to talking about things).
- My mental image the solution of your last paragraph is a guy and their counsoler just chatting outside chopping firewood or other simple/quiet lawn work.
  "I need a therapist, and a lumberjack"
It might even, gasp, offer solutions.
I don't think the open internet is a great place to open up about your mental health either. Trusted family, friends, and medical/mental health professionals are the best resources. Entrusting something as precious as your mental health to AI or the internet is a profoundly bad idea.
- A local llm could (at least appear to) be the best option (on an individual scale) for people that would be reported by mandatory reporters (which mental health professionals are), such as suicidal people or murderers or pedophiles.
An AI isn’t gonna judge you,
Guess what is happening with that chat history.

Naturally. We were beaten up and ostracized if we showed weakness when we were kids. You CAN'T be sharing your feelings like that to another human.

You can share them to fellow humans here now /c/reprieve@lemmy.zip

The amount of sexism in this comment section is...unnerving. Does a community exist for male identifying people to talk and share their troubles in a non hostile space? If it doesn't I'll make one.

Edit: No idea what I'm doing but !Reprieve@lemmy.zip

Would you mind giving the community a name where it can easily be found? Such as /c/mental-health-men or sth.
- Ah well, unfortunately the community name is set, there's no changing it after it's created. Maybe I should've made it more searchable but hopefully we can spread it by word of mouth enough where it'll take off. Also I kinda wanted it less intimidating clinical sterile sounding and more just a homey place where people can feel safe to talk openly, just a li'l reprieve from the outside world.
I fail to see malicious sexism. Do you mind quoting them?
- i’d like to be very clear here… a lot of discussion about men’s spaces is thinly veiled sexism by incels… that doesn’t mean there’s not a problem, it just means that incels are attracted to “it’s not my fault”
  that said, there’s a comment up thread that captures it pretty well
  … mental health professionals all my 'issues' were blow way out of proportion … always 100% told me everything that happens to me is entirely my fault. they also told me it was normal/healthy to vent my feelings by doing productive things (like writing, exercising, relaxing), rather than viewing that as 'not addressing the problem'.
  the issue with so much of this crap is that not only does nobody want to talk to men, it's that they don't want to listen and/or the tell us we are 'talking wrong'. even when we do talk to people, there is only a tiny window of acceptable things we an talk about and way we can talk about them or how selfish it is of him to vent/indulge his legitimate emotions.
  … a man bursts into tears over his father dying of cancer and all the sudden everyone wants to tell him his reaction is too intense … someone in his life try to get him to 'open up' and then we he does he's met with nothing but hostility, disappointment, and eventually rejection
  it’s a meme (not in a “haha” joke way: in the actual meaning of the world; a thing that is repeated often) these days that there are horrible men who tell women (re sexism) “you must have misunderstood”… and the point of that is that men don’t have the life experience as a minority to be able to understand sexism, transphobia, etc (people treat them differently, and even if they see it they often can’t identify it because they’re not accustomed to listening for it 24/7)
  that same situation exists for men too… men are certainly not a minority, but nobody is allowed to say that someone’s experience is invalid… there’s a lot of people dismissing these experiences in this thread, and if it were reversed: a woman complaining about a man making a sexist comment, a gay man (of which i’m one) complaining about homophobia, there wouldn’t be any pushback at all because we’ve come to agree that this shit happens
  we know that toxic masculinity exists, we know that societal expectations of men are sky high (the suicide rate for men in particular is HUGE)… we’re clearly doing something wrong, as a society, dealing with male mental health… when people come out and tell us their experiences, it absolutely is sexist to write off those experiences as invalid: “i don’t think that kind of thing happens because i haven’t seen it”, is absolutely (anything)-ist language
  is it on the same level as problem as sexism or racism? probably not… but denying the problem helps nobody… denying the problem, in this case, makes the problem so much worse and pushes people to lash out and become sexist, racist, homophobic, etc (which is also not to remove blame from them - all those things are wrong and a personal choice and should have personal repercussions)

Look, if you can afford therapy, really, fantastic for you. But the fact is, it's an extremely expensive luxury, even at poor quality, and sharing or unloading your mental strain with your friends or family, particularly when it is ongoing, is extremely taxing on relationships. Sure, your friends want to be there for you when they can, but it can put a major strain depending on how much support you need. If someone can alleviate that pressure and that stress even a little bit by talking to a machine, it's in extremely poor taste and shortsighted to shame them for it. Yes, they're willfully giving up their privacy, and yes, it's awful that they have to do that, but this isn't like sharing memes... in the hierarchy of needs, getting the pressure of those those pent up feelings out is important enough to possibly be worth the trade-off. Is it ideal? Absolutely not. Would it be better if these systems were anonymized? Absolutely. But humans are natural anthropomorphizers. They develop attachments and build relationships with inanimate objects all the time. And a really good therapist is more a reflection for you to work through things yourself anyway, mostly just guiding your thoughts towards better patterns of thinking. There's no reason the machine can't do that, and while it's not as good as a human, it's a HUGE improvement on average over nothing at all.

- In my experience, it's likely that some of those downvotes come from reflexive "AI bad! How dare you say AI good!" Reactions, not anything specific to mental health. For a community called "technology" there's a pretty strong anti-AI bubble going on here.
- therapy does not have to be expensive.
  But it is though.
  Your medicaid patients?
  Poor. By definition.
  Sure they might not pay a copay, but they pay for it in gas money to get to that visit, their barely running car now breaking down from visiting you, time off work they can't really afford, time filling out reams and reams of fucking paperwork to be able to qualify for anything, likely when they're already in a mentally comprimised condition to some extent... its all very stressful.
  Which is very bad for mental health.
  we have no reason to believe it would be any better than a paper journal and a CBT worksheet.
  And the part you don't want to admit (at least here) is that ... that's actually quite helpful in and of itself for a lot of people.
  Have a few sessions with a live, in person therapist, to teach you CBT, give you the paperwork, walk you through it.
  Not all, but many people can take it by themselves from there, and not need to keep wasting time and energy on continually requalifying for medicaid, getting to and from psych appointments, dealing with scheduling delays and unavailability, etc.
  Yep, a lot of people are also helped by basically just having someone to be able to talk to and feel heard.
  But... that's often doable by just making either a friend or even casual acquaintance with someone who is capable of, and has the capacity for reflexive empathy.
  Much less stress and paperwork involved there.
  And also yes, some people with much more serious issues need much more serious help.
  Unfortunately, the entire medical system in the US is utterly broken, and the only real solution is having a system that ... isn't broken, so that comprehensive screening and diagnosis is easily available without huge delays and costs... and more broadly, those people need to have the first two levels of maslow's hierarchy of needs taken care of.
  But currently our society basically just takes those people and throws them into the streets, evicts them, forecloses on them, incarcerates them.
  There simply is no systemic way to help those people without major systemic changes... and those ain't happening, they're moving in the opposite direction.
  ...
  The problem with LLMs as therapy is that they are wildly overconfident, agreeable to the point of encouraging delusions and dangerous behavior, they hallucinate facts that aren't real... and they are not actually capable of legitimate critical thinking or reasoning.
  They also will not introduce you to concepts you have never heard of before which you do not know are or could be very useful, unless you directly ask them to do that, and even then... they obviously are not experts themselves and may suggest dubious ideas.
  But also, at the same time... people often do form what they will describe as meaningful relationships with an LLM. So... its not that 'it doesn't happen', its that its a psuedorelationship, a fascimile of a relationship, lacks in person interaction, a real human modulating their intonation, having micro expressions, body language, etc etc.

Like... yeah?

Tried to open to a girlfriend about a sensitive topic - she got the ick.

Tried to make an appointment with a psychiatrist - got a very hateful rejection because of my place of birth.

Damn, even when I try to uplift a friend, I use phrases like 'you got this before, you'll get it now'.

I don't know how to be a man, mentally

Getting rejection because of place of birth is worth getting that doctors license revoked, find out which body governs doctors in your location and file a complaint
- Haha, not every place is in the US. Hopefully, I won't face this kind of treatment as I do not live in that shit hole of a country
Become a rich jacked sociopath.
That’s most manly thing you can do apparently.
- Sorry, I will pursue happiness instead

What a clickbait. Of course people are picking feee resource with zero friction over 120$ an hour half a day event.

in australia we have (limited) free mental health services (i wanna say 8 free sessions with a therapist?)… this still holds true
it’s not only about money
- Another aussie here, Headspace is great too
- TBH this is a huge factor.
  I don’t use ChatGPT much less use it like it’s a person, but I'm socially isolated at the moment. So I bounce dark internal thoughts off of locally run LLMs.
  It’s kinda like looking into a mirror. As long as I know I'm talking to a tool, it’s helpful, sometimes insightful. It’s private. And I sure as shit can’t afford to pay a therapist out of the gazoo for that.
  It was one of my previous problems with therapy: payment depending on someone else, at preset times (not when I need it). Many sessions feels like they end when I’m barely scratching the surface. Yes therapy is great in general and for deeper feedback/guidance, but still.
  To be clear, I don’t think this is a good solution in general. Tinkering with LLMs is part of my living, I understand the jist of how they work, I tend to use raw completion syntax or even base pretrains.
  But most people anthropomorphize them because that’s how chat apps are presented. That’s problematic.

Maybe because it's cheaper, easier and you're not judged by other person.

You get what you pay for. Would these same people take cancer treatments from the same LLM?
- Tbh, yeah. I'm a woman with an inoperable brain tumor, and I can completely understand why people would be reluctant to accept "nothing to be done" as a real answer.
  If I thought I deserved to live, I'd probably talk to a LLM about it because this topic drags everybody down, and my therapist only sees me once a week. Though, I've heard its good for helping people not live, so maybe its worth a shot after all.

Part of me is ok with this in that any avenue to get mental health resources can be better than nothing. What worries me is that people will use ChatGPT for this sort of thing and these models will not be good help.

I'll admit I tried talking to a local deepseek about a minor mental health issue one night when I just didn't want to wake up/bother my friends. Broke the AI within about 6 prompts where no matter what I said it would repeat the same answer word-for-word about going for walks and eating better. Honestly, breaking the AI and laughing at it did more for my mental health than anything anyone could have said, but I'm an AI hater. I wouldn't recommend anyone in real need use AI for mental health advice.
- I'd say make a grilled cheese sandwich with quality Gruyere and Cheddar and take a nap after.
AI will reinforce delusional thinking. This is definitely not good.
- more delusional people means more people that can make good music

ChatCBT

If it had the memory for that, it might be useful. Plus another handful of caveats.

Some people would rather yalk to something they know is fake than to talk to a person who may or may not be.

genAI chatbots are so predatory

Just a note to say that the very first chat bot, Eliza, created in the 1960's was a Rogerian therapist. I'm sure I remember a quote that the author was surprised that people opened up to it. I doubt anyone working in AI or chat technology would not know about Eliza so probably not a surprise to the industry... but maybe I am that old. [edits: facts/spelling etc]

And it's awesome. Men aren't allowed by others to show weakness. AI therapy genuinely helps a lot.

Or it gets them into a negative feedback loop since AI hardly ever tries to contradict you.
But yeah. At least they're opening up to someone/something.

Funny, I was just reading comments in another thread about people with mental health problems proclaiming how terrific it is. Especially concerning is how they had found value in the recommendations LLMs make and "trying those out." One of the commenters described themselves as "neuro diverse" and was acting upon "advice" from generated LLM responses.

And for something like depression, this is deeply bad advice. I feel somewhat qualified to weigh in on it as somebody who has struggled severely with depression and managed to get through it with the support of a very capable therapist. There's a tremendous amount of depth and context to somebody's mental condition that involves more deliberate probing to understand than stringing together words until it forms sentences that mimic human interactions.

Let's not forget that an LLM will not be able to raise alarm bells, read medical records, write prescriptions or work with other medical professionals. Another thing people often forget is that LLMs have maximum token lengths and cannot, by definition, keep a detailed "memory" of everything that's been discussed.

It's is effectively self-treatment with more steps.

Also worth noting that:
1. AI is arguably a surveillance technology that's built on decades of our patterns
2. The US government is increasingly authoritarian and has expressed interest in throwing neurodivergent people into labor camps
3. Large AI companies like OpenAI are signing contracts with the Department of defense
If I were a US citizen, I would be avoiding discussing my personal life with AI like the plague.
LLM will not be able to raise alarm bells
this is like the "benefit" of what LLM-therapy would provide if it worked. The reality is that, it doesn't but it serves as a proof of concept that there is a need for anonymous therapy. Therapy in the USA is only for people with socially acceptable illnesses. People rightfully live in fear of getting labeled as untreatable, a danger to self and others, and then at best dropped from therapy and at worst institutionalized.
- yep, almost nobody wants to be committed to a psych ward without consent
I can't find the story for the life of me right now but I'm pretty sure there was one a few months back where someone was talking with an LLM about their depression and suicide and the LLM essentially said "yeah you should probably do it." because to the LLM, that was the best solution to the problem.

Men will talk to a chatbot instead of going to therapy

I go to a therapist and she treats me like a five year old.
I can literally just read her basic CBT training online, its not hard to find.
Then I do the excercises at home.
CBT being basically the only kind of approach to therapy that is actually empirically shown to reliably actually help most people.
Oh, you're seeking an therapist qualified and specialized for high functioning autists?
There aren't any in the state anymore.
...
I also think that using ChatGPT as a therapist is a fucking horrible idea, but uh, therapy in America is expensive, and often shit quality, oh and they just hand out pills that you'll become dependent on, willy nilly, as opposed to trying everything else first and using that as a last resort.
- CBT being basically the only kind of approach to therapy that is actually empirically shown to reliably actually help most people.
  Learning that as an acronym for cock and ball torture before the therapy version makes me laugh every time.
  My experience with women therapists was always about how I just wasn't paying enough attention to other people when I pointed out that the people around me weren't consistent enough to figure out their patterns. My one therapist who was a man explained that most people are just better at handling it when they were wrong and it is fine to be wrong, plus he helped me get diagnosed with ADHD instead of telling me to just try harder. I'll bet there are some therapists who are women who are just as good as he was, but it became pretty clear that social norms are just as hard for people who specialize in behaviors to overcome.
- There are other methods that are clinically valid beyond CBT. Don’t give up. Somatic approaches that bypass the prefrontal cortex can be really effective too. The new hotness is showing that all that word-making can get in the way as much as it helps.
  If that interests you, search ‘top-down bottom-up’ therapy approaches.
- Yeah but have you tried going out in the sun? You can have that tip free of charge!
- CBT being basically the only kind of approach to therapy that is actually empirically shown to reliably actually help most people.
  what the fuck are you talking about? this is objectively incorrect based on current evidence-based practices. why the fuck are you spreading misinfo about my job?
  CBT IS NOT the only arghh omggg you must be trolling me. I'm not wasting any more on this
Now flip that around and anytime you see or a hear a woman saying her man isn't emotionally available, just tell her he isn't your therapist.
... Do you see how this kind of framing is wildly unproductive, when either side engages in it?
- I can't believe I'm going to have to explain this, but it's a meme reference: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/instead-of-going-to-therapy

Not only men at all.

I don't think it's only men either, but it's worth considering the implications and potential causes for what is being said here.
We have had not decades but centuries of macho culture, where mental health is a taboo for men because "I strong, me no cry" and we know that mental health struggles go underreported on men. This is just adding more evidence to a symptom that we already know, of a society that hasn't been able to course correct because it's too set in tradition to allow those who need help to seek it without feeling like garbage.
While I'm not saying this is a problem exclusive to men, I think the causes and effects on women and men are rather different. We've now known for a while that women with mental health issues or disorders tend to go undiagnosed (even more so than unreported). The case of autism is particularly blatant, as women only started to get diagnosed in a meaningful proportion in the 80s (despite autism not being sex- or gender-driven). https://www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/topics/identity/autistic-women-and-girls
Similarly, that underdiagnosing came from the stereotyping of gender roles and the fact that being quiet and pretty equated being "feminine", which is "good", so can't be autistic, because autistic is bad.
- The performative masculinity of many men is also reinforced by partriarchichal norms in many women, who consistently belittle men who attempt to express their emotions without judgement, who demand macho men, who belittle men who aren't financially better off than them.
  Men can't talk to most men, and they can't talk to most women, society in general still largely demands they conform to the 'bottle it all in, buck up and deal with it' norm that is so very obviously harmful to men, and whoever they eventually take it out on when they have a breakdown.
  ... These are broad generalizations, but they are still broadly accurate.
  Yep, the psychology industry/field has been unfair to women for a long, long time, often hideously so.
  But no widespread progress on deconstructing and at least softening male machismo norms will be possible until we as a society acknowledge that... men are not the only sex/gender that often have ingrained patriarchal norms.
- Fair, but it's still a shady title IMO.
  Just a "... mental health too" would have made it both correct and more nuanced IMO.
Yeah, but it is way worse in men with the way they are socialized. Men are taught to not show emotions which results in them being worse at regulating emotions and not talking about issues with their peers since that would be seen as emasculating.
Women on the other hand are taught to discuss their emotions with their peers and to help others with that as well. And now that women are not required to be in a relationship with a man to be able to thrive in society, many men lose out on their only emotional caretaker and turn to chat bots.

for me, beer with friends solves it

You have friends?
- everyone’s a friend which drinks beer at the same table 🍻

I think we may be (re)-discovering the appeal of monotheistic religions, and why they hew patriarchal.

On average, men desperately need more mental health resources. But, on average, they are not comfortable building that with other men, and it often isn't appropriate or effective to lean on their female significant other (if a straight man).

So - enter the primary description of 'God'. Can listen any time but will always forgive, is super masculine but won't emasculate you, and has never told another soul what you are thinking.

AI is always available and is unlikely to emasculate anyone, but that third item... Well, we'll see where this goes.

This thing has been trained on social media. Is that really wise?

I mean, I know they fixed it, but LLMs once suggested jumping off a bridge if you searched for help with suicidal ideation
- "Having trouble quitting heroin? A little bit of heroin can really alleviate those cravings!"

AI is what cracked my egg shell, fucking wild...

Well that's gotta be an interesting story! Don't leave us hanging!

Revolution my ass. LLM make for poor psychologists.

Better than nothing I guess. Obviously it's a privacy nightmare. But therapy is hard to reach nowadays and I've noticed that many men are reluctant to make that step. It'd be preferable if they did, but if ChatGPT can at least give an outlet for the emotions then it might just save a few people. Seeing men demolish themselves because they're too ashamed to seek help is something I've unfortunately seen quite often. Even though I'm aware of this I've still waited till it was way too late because I subconsciously didn't want to give in to the "weakness". I hate that men are conditioned this way, it costs lives.

@gerryflap @bytesonbike
many men are reluctant to make that step
Sometimes it's not the patient to blame. I made the step, countless times since my childhood... I sought help... Result? Got several, diverging diagnostics, several medications that didn't work, until the most recent psychiatrist and psychologist some months ago: the psychiatrist said I got "nothing" (even when I had a fresh cut on my wrist) and the second "struggled to find any complaints from me". So I simply gave up on seeking medical care (and "care" in general, human or whatnot). I don't use AI for therapy because, as a former programmer, I'm deeply aware of their underlying Markov chain and NN algorithms, but sometimes their probabilistic outputs lead me to insights I couldn't get from any living Homo sapiens beings (such as the possibility that I have "Geschwind Syndrome", a condition of which will probably stay undiagnosed).
It's possible to reduce the privacy issues by using APIs with a local frontend. Given that APIs usually cater to companies instead of end consumers they actually have simple opt-outs for information logging.
Requires a bit of know-how, and you'll be paying for your llm per use (not that bad actually, I've personally averaged <10$/yr in api costs) but at least you get to have all your personal issues on your local device instead.
For a chatGPT-like experience you probably want the ooga booga web generation ui but there's others too.
- Personally I also ran some distilled versions of DeepSeek locally, though I'd imagine that isn't really possible for most people.

Sometimes I wonder if I am, in fact, a man, because every time an article like this rolls around I'm like the fuck I do.

CDC data from 2022 indicated that more than one in five U.S. adults under the age of 45 experienced symptoms of mental distress.

Must be the lack of personnel. Couldn't have anything to do with the global insecurity of rising inflation and low wage jobs coupled with the skyrocketing housing costs. Not to mention the whole "the earth is steadily getting hotter and extreme weather events are happening more and more frequently."

Yeah, let's invest in more AI that will fuck over the planet even more with colossal energy requirements and not even bother with making people more financially and socially secure.

I'm totally against what companies are calling "AI", but I understand that many men still have a negative feel on therapy inherited from society, their family, their friends, and the people around them. Now add that with the fact that therapy sessions cost a kidney, I don't blame them. Even mental health has to be monetized in capitalism, and the capitalists (more specifically liberals) are still wondering why suicide rate is so high, I wonder 🤔

This comment section is nuts.

Men #1 issue is lack of empathy, TOWARDS women. Not each other.

There's your solution.

Empathy does not treat clinical depression.
- I disagree. I had depression pretty bad, I didn't leave my house for two years.
  Empathy is definitely what made me feel different, not 100% better but different and different is the first step out of depression I think.
You seem to lack empathy.
- Sure buddy keep hating women or whatever the point of your comment was.
“I’m the one who’s correct, everyone else here is wrong.” – You
- Everyone else is blaming women for how men act. You disagree?
  One guy said women raise boys, so it's their fault.
  Another said therapy only works for women and suggested women aren't under any social pressure.
  You think those are intelligent, well thought arguments? Because they're stupid.

Sounds like the smart and sensible thing to do tbh, opening up to people in this day and age is just suicide

Ironically, i am feeling attacked right now..

Of course men will go to an AI for their problems, they can't fathom going to a woman for honest advice.

And as a result, they gaslight themselves with a worse version of ELIZA.

Of course men will go to an AI for their problems, they can't fathom going to a woman for honest advice.
This seems a bit far-fetched, don’t you think? There could be so many reasons as to why someone would rather use AI than going to another person for advice (this is not just about women).
Honestly, as someone who actually went to therapy and yes, my therapist was a woman. It’s was quite tough to open up and be vulnerable.
I think for some people using AI, they might feel as if they’re not that vulnerable because it is not a person. However, they don’t realize that there’s data is being gathered.
And as a result, they gaslight themselves with a worse version of ELIZA.
With this, I can’t figure out whether you’re serious, trolling or just writing randomly.

Buy more. Buy more now.

Have we considered this may be the only time it's actually justifiable to have real people controlling the "AI". Like instead of an underpaid tech worker from the global south answering coding questions, we get therapists to pretend to be AI so men will actually talk to them.

they better fuckin bill me for it

Much easier if you just bury your feelings deep deep down. No repercussions whatsoever. The occasional psychic breakdowns but that’s normal.