Finland turns down US request for eggs
Finland turns down US request for eggs
"The amount we could export would not solve their egg shortage," says the head of the Finnish Poultry Association.
Summary
Finland has declined a U.S. request to export eggs amid a severe American shortage caused by bird flu.
The Finnish Poultry Association cited the lack of prior trade agreements and complex regulatory hurdles. Even if exports were possible, Finland’s limited egg production would not significantly impact the U.S. crisis.
Other European nations, including Sweden and Denmark, also face difficulties meeting U.S. demand, while Europe grapples with its own egg shortages.
The U.S. has turned to countries like Turkey and the Netherlands for supplies as bird flu remains a global issue.
Nobody should send us eggs. Nobody should give us anything, given the government we have now
Orangeboi wants transactional, so give him transactional. Hold the US state department over the barrel as long as you can. Hold our feet to the fire. Make the negotiations as torturous and hostile as possible. Squeeze us until you see blood. Get absolutely everything you can out of any “deal” you make with us - it’s the “art of the deal”, after all.
There are huge swaths of Americans and political leadership that now really need to find out, because they’ve been fucking around and ruining things for far too long.
The US is going to be begging for more than just eggs in a few months. California is one of their biggest agricultural states and they have no water; Trump had them empty their reservoirs in an idiotic attempt to fight the wildfires earlier this year. Plus, the whole country is dependent on Canadian potash to fertilize their crops.
Is there anybody who's done the analysis on his bad it will be? California's online tracker shows right now that nearly every major reservoir in the state is above the historical average level for March 15th. The system as a whole is at over 78% of capacity. The news stories that I found put the releases at of 2.2 billion gallons, which is not much. (The lake near me contains about 133 billion gallons.) They were from Lake Kaweah and Lake Success, both reservoirs which primarily serve flood-control functions.
Unfortunately, things are that far gone Trump/USians in general will probably see an even slightly fair deal as them getting done over. Much the same as Brits and Brexit.
This is what happens when you burn all your bridges. I'm American myself and to be brutally honest, I hope most of the free world will continue to refuse requests to export to us.
The US is no longer a member of the 'free world'. Traveling to US now is just as dangerous as travelling to China.
At least in China the likelihood of you getting gunned down by either police or some drunkard is significantly lower than US. As for other problem like scam or pickpocket or government overreach for some opinion, you won't ever need to worry if you follow some common sense and common travelling tips. Authoritarian government like CCP treat traveller better than local.
Now I might be naive or plain wrong, but I tell you completely honestly, that I would always have been more concerned for my safety travelling to the US than China.
Naturally, one would steer away from discussing politics or behaving in 'concerning' ways in China - for example filming government buildings.
But, I have never felt I'd be in any danger doing average tourist stuff in China. I've been there twice, to more rural parts as it happens, and felt safe: People friendly, no edge.
US on the other hand... I admit I've barely visited to transfer flights, but the idea of being let loose in the US is considerably more challenging for me. Knowing that everyone is potentially armed, that trigger happy police are everywhere, there are high racial tensions, drugged up homeless etc.
This was truly my impression even before Trump was ever a household name.
Is it surprising to Americans that a Brit would genuinely feel that way around about the two countries? I don't know. It doesn't seem controversial to me, but then I read Americans talking about China as though it's some scary place for them.
Sure. But the American empire will not just slowly die. As their people lose their "toys" that distract them they will need someone to blame it on that isn't the US government.
This will at some point be other western nations along with their current scapegoat of immigrants and Palestine supporters. The American empire will use its military power long before it just lets it's empire die. Its playing cards to see which nations it can blame first and which western allies will decide to align with them rather than face their military.
I agree with all the anti American boycotts. I do. But I don't think people realize exactly where that is heading on a world stage.
I suspect more people than you think realise this is a potential outcome.
Assuming it boils over before there is another election (also assuming that's a thing that happens), military action is 100% a playable card.
It's a toddler with a nuclear tantrum button.
It's honestly not that much different in type than most nuclear powered nations.
The difference is "absolute last resort, and only maybe then" vs "they won't let me annex Greenland and are being mean to me"
Hyperbolic ofc, but illustrative.
What are the reasonable good alternatives though?
"Okay, but you have to become the 20th province of Finland."
I accept Finland's terms. Now that I'm a Finnish citizen, I would like to move to the country proper.
I for one welcome our Finnish overlords.
now you can go to the doctor without losing your home!
...And just like that, Finland now shares a border with Russia on both sides of the globe. I'm sure the Finns are great friends with Russia, so Russia has no reason to worry that the vast military arsenal of the former USA is theirs now.
Also, does this mean the president of the former USA will be punished for his crimes? I'm not familiar with Finnish law, but it has to be better than ours.
Sounds like a great deal... TORILLE!!!
I'm sure the Finns aren't exactly keen to take a price hike on eggs to meet a hostile country's needs.
The Finnish Poultry Association cited the lack of prior trade agreements and complex regulatory hurdles.
Such an understated way of saying: you started a trade war, now go fsck yourself!
The US has a trade agreement with Mexico and Canada and it still means shit to him
How about we introduce export tariffs on eggs instead.
Over 9000% tariffs
Egg prices aren’t high solely because of bird flu. They’re high because of regional monopolies and a price fixing cartel. The largest egg producers are seeing record profits.
I hope it’s clear that I’m not saying bird flu doesn’t exist or affect prices. I’m not much of a conspiracy theorist. But if I had to guess, I’d say it’s 10% bird flu and 90% companies raising prices in unison because they can blame bird flu. If it were just bird flu, the companies would be losing money.
NB: it feels very weird to call them “egg producers” because hens are the actual egg producers. Egg distributors, maybe? In any case, the distributors are doing fine and their only competition in most regions are small, organic farms whose eggs were already $7 a dozen. It’s just the low end of the market that’s gone crazy.
it feels very weird to call them “egg producers”
Chicken pimps?
I endorse this. From now on, chicken pimps is what egg suppliers are called.
This is important to bring up. If we want to stop being subjected to this kind of fuckery, we need to unite and vote with our dollars. I love making egg-based dishes, but there are other options. The real problem is most people struggle with the idea of making sacrifices to get what they want later. Just don't buy eggs as an average consumer if they are that unaffordable.
In the United States, we are spoiled for choice when we shop. We're used to being able to get what we want when we want it, and that's led to a sense of entitlement. Eat other things, get creative. Look up effective substitutions for eggs in baking.
We don't have to take this. So don't.
I’d say it’s 10% bird flu and 90% companies raising prices in unison because they can blame bird flu.
Why yes, there was no consequences during covid so the companies are gonna keep doing this until there are consequences.
Remember, there was the bread price fixing in Canada too, yeah, feels like such a long time ago
Remember, there was the bread price fixing in Canada too, yeah, feels like such a long time ago
It's funny that we talk about this like it's past tense but bread is still $6 a loaf
It has to be both. I notice our smaller egg seller (still bigger than a local farm, but not huge, maybe a 2 or 3 state provider) still charges 3.50 a dozen.
Which is in stark contrast to the garbage eggs from the countrywide sellers asking 8
Every country should avoid doing business with Trump’s regime because he will screw you over either way.
Eggs are now caught being trafficked into the US at higher rates than fentanyl.
Good.
Did you say thanks ? No? Go lay your own...
This egg trade is insane, not a single euro country could help USA here simply because the us has a 340m+ population and that being said, it would take the entire eu support/ supply in order to meet the demand of the USA
It would take a sacrifice from EU countries to help an "ally" whose leadership will then threaten them, put more tariffs and make unfair deals when is your turn to request help.
trump is going to tariff finland now because "wahh"
This mental image popped into my head, after reading your comment. Now you get to enjoy it too, wAaHhh!
i am fully in support of them not selling us eggs.
Do not help this toxic nation! America is evil.
Who has the cards?
Bird flu is the nature's way of saying how cruel and fucked up the system is and how it should be abolished. Humans don't need eggs for anything.
Yup, use chickpea water instead folks!
Be kind to the chickens.
Bird flu is the nature’s way of saying how cruel and fucked up the system is
Let's leave it at that.
If companies treat chicken just a little bit better bird flu won't be a huge problem anymore.Humans don’t need eggs for anything.
This is also true inasmuch as this isn't an emergency for humans. Yet. Not the eggs anyhow.
wonder if rapey mc rapist and techno nazi along with their gaggle of dip shit losers invested in poultry and eggs before this.
i mean its not uncommon for rich assholes and their corporate entities to heavily invest in things they know are about skyrocket in price or short smaller out circle businesses they know wont make it if the market craches, especially if they get to control the "soft landing"
even during a recession its possible to make a pyramid sized pile of cash if you bet on the right failure, even more so if you can fix the bet in the first place by forcing its price down.
they literally made a whole movie about this about the 2008 financial crisis.
you may not see it on paper right now, but that doesnt mean corpos arent sifting cash into secret accounts, either directly or on their behalf.
The part that kills me about all this is that there is a bird flu vaccine, but US poultry farmers aren't allowed to use it because then we couldn't export eggs to other countries. There was a really good CBS Sunday Morning segment about this.
then we couldn't export eggs to other countries
Why?
Every country should refuse to send eggs to the US.
The only way I would consider it would be if there was a US wide broadcast where the world leader that gives them some has a low-level staffer ask JD Vance if he is going to “say thank you even once”. Trump needs to then tell JD that he has to say thank you because “we don’t have the cards. With them, we start to have cards”.
If they won’t say that on television, put export tariffs on eggs to the US at 500%.
It has to be 500% because 3 times the current price of eggs in Canada is about what they are selling for in the US already.
Good
I bet Finland feels Oeufal
On the contrary, I bet they feel eggcellent
Go suck an egg, Trump!
I respect this, as an American. We should be focusing on buying American goods. And sometimes that means there are going to be shortages and limits on natural resources. But I'm not upset by it either. I'd prefer to buy local or buy American in general, and trust that it's all been done by employers who use E-Verify (so that all employees are legal and being paid a legal wage), where our labor laws are enforced.
I wouldn't be willing to buy imported eggs. I'm barely willing to buy imported produce, and seek to avoid it when possible.
Nah that's a bad idea, we should embrace international cooperation. Globalism will actually deliver your cheap eggs instead of lying about it like national socialism did.
Big DumDum will probably put tariffs on them...
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