Trump says Ukraine 'should have never started it' in comments about war with Russia

I fuckin' hate this guy.

One day, we WILL wake up to his obituary.
- It's the reason I refresh my feed so often.
- Or he’ll wake up to mine and tens of millions more…
- I felt a genuine modicum of relief at the thought.
- I hope to be this lucky.
- Thanks for shining a light in these dark days
I just can’t anymore. Sorry guys, I’ve been too sick and can no longer cope.
I pop in once a week so I can say, aloud: ‘Jesus fuck this bastard.’
So here’s my weekly ablution. Dog help us all.
- Take a minute away from this shit for your own mental health. We'll still be here yelling about this fucking dickhead when you return.

After all, we've always been at war with Eastasia...

- They've already started their Newspeak.
It's honestly uncanny. Not the similarities, but that one of the most commonly assigned books in the public school system is so blatantly disregarded.
- Well, most people just remember it as the book where the government watches you, but that's a very minor part of it. I'm guessing the parts that are remembered/forgotten are on purpose.
Russasia has always been our ally.

How crazy that Americans aren’t embarrassed by this deadly lie.

Nope, I'm incredibly embarrassed and scared
- Please consider becoming organized in your local communities, they will be essential in the coming months, and it is the most powerful act we can do to resist.
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- What are you going to do about it?
  Edited to add, apparently this was an unpopular question.
Don't presuppose my embarrassment. I have been embarrassed for as long as I can remember.
nearly half, or more than half, depending on the politics of the non voters, are embarrassed by this line
- Trump won votes from less than a third of registered voters. I’m certain more than half of us are outraged.
Crazy!
Or, maybe they are. And this is just an ignorant hot take.
Those of us that are embarrassed are outnumbered by the selfish idiots who could vote but didn't and the hate-filled who believe his lies.
Without an absolute seismic shift in American media and politics or a very massive and probably vert violent revolution, the county is done for.
We are
Oh, I was plenty embarrassed the first run around. The fact that I have to do it again is just...yea.
A lot of us are ...
I'm too paralyzed by fear to be embarrassed.
Many of us are.

meanwhile he is threatening allies with invasions

"let's make a deal! you give me all your land and everything in it, and i won't just waltz in and take it!...probably. maybe."
We should be threatening to give Alaska to Canada rather than threatening to make Canada the 51st state.

Revisionist history much?

Trump, who said last week that he and President Vladimir Putin spoke by phone about ending the war, has made several comments bolstering the Russian president. He said during an interview with Fox News last month that Ukraine should not have fought when it was invaded by Russia.

"When you are famous enough, they just let you do it."

But what was Ukraine wearing?

Asking the real questions

Spoken like a true rapist.

I genuinely hate this asshole with every fiber of my being and I will celebrate the day that he kicks the bucket.

I will drink so much champagne on that day.

He just had a meeting with Russia, he just listens to th last guy who spoke to him. Zero long term memory

He's also been shown to be ridiculously susceptible to flattery and pomp, two things Moscow can provide in spades, with little cost to themselves. He also seemingly genuinely believes, that there is nothing more to politics but raw self-interest and primitive power displays, when there's a reason your edgy teenage friend didn't stumble upon some higher wisdom when claiming that about the world.
President Dickhead Dory

Where he’s coming from, based on what I’ve seen, is the assertion that Ukraine was in civil war before the 2022 invasion (basically true), and that the eastern separatists (who were indeed fighting Ukraine’s government) were being killed.

It’s also true that there was corruption, and some democratic backsliding, prior to the invasion (not that the US or Russia have any leg to stand on there).

The kool-aid part is that the separatists were fighting to “free” western Ukraine from the tyrannical govt, and that Russia finally invaded to save and “relieve” these noble citizens who want to be part of Russia. That everyone would vote this way if some elections weren’t suspended. This conveniently leaves out the first Russian invasion, propaganda efforts and so much more.

This is why Ukraine “started it.” They just kept attacking these rebels and forced Russia to intervene… I guess. On Putin’s side, it ties into the idea of an oppressed population yearning to be one with Russia again.

…What I am getting at is, with the MASSIVE intelligence apparatus at his disposal, Trump is guzzling this kool aid. He’s not a two faced dictator, he believes the propaganda and has swallowed the hook.

I think that is even scarier than a real “dictator.” Even if you buy into the whole “America First” philosophy (which has some merits at least), it means Trump can make monumentally bad decisions that don’t follow this mandate or even benefit him, as his view is totally warped.

- IIRC yes.
  It would have worked again if the second invasion hadn’t trended so much, encouraging other countries to intervene, and if Ukraine itself hadn’t put up such a staunch, united resistance.
The alleged reason why Russia attacked was because they want a buffer zone of neutral countries around them. Apparently the US has been running its agenda pushing for Eastern European countries to join NATO knowing it'd stir some shit by ruffling Russia's delicate feathers. So Russia panicked when Ukraine looked to join NATO at the US's suggestion and basically used the gay panic defense but for the Western allegiance arriving in their backyard and invaded under a pretext.
Yes, the USA did ignore Russia's concerns knowingly (and did some very questionable shit inside Ukraine, as usual) but Russia imagined the worst scenario for themselves and did the illegal shit.

Stop invading yourself, stop invading yourself.

Putin’s puppet since Helsinki Summit.

Not only from back then. The summit was organized largely because Trump admires Putin so much.
- Admiration is not the same as blackmailed.

Fuck Russia!

I bet Trump will invite Putin for a state visit before the peace has been brokered. Trump will spend hundreds of millions of tax dollars to impress Putin with a ridiculous ceremony. And Trump will gift hundred nuclear warheads to Putin.

I don't know about the nuclear warheads, but I absolutely believe everything else.

He is the king idiot criminal leading a pack of losers.

Moron's gonna moron

When I woke up this morning I saw the headline and I thought "here we go again". I watched the video and my impression is that he said that sentence in his classic dementia rambling, right after it he said "he should have ended it".

Basically he was blaming Zelensky for not having negotiated right away and Biden for not having pushed for it.

Not sure if this makes it any better, but at least I got the impression he mispoke saying that particular thing.

No, I'm done giving him the benefit of the doubt. The President of the United States should be able to clearly articulate a thought.
- This is not giving him any benefit of the doubt, it's trying to understand what he wanted to say given the fact that he is not able to articulate a thought. That is what I understood from the video, he rambles all the time and says random stuff, I think it's a matter of fact he can't articulate a thought. Sure, it's a disgrace that one of the most powerful men in the world (if not the most) can't do that, but here we are.

Ignorant cunt says ignorant cunt shit. God I can't wait for 4 more years of this shit

Judging from historical precedent, the chances of actually having only 4 years of this aren't exactly guaranteed.

Distraction. They say this bloat on purpose to bog us down with nonsense. Ignore it, he hates that more than anything.

Trump is nothing more than a treasonous piece of shit.

Vladimir Trump, First Communist Comrade has spoken.

What in the dill pickle is this pumpkin going on about?

Peace is possible but only if Puttler fucked right off.
Puttler has shown he doesn't care for lives, he bombs innocent people all day. He didnt stop at Crimea back then so why would he stop now?
Its not Ukraine that sacrifices lives its Puttler.
Russia invaded as a disguise for support for Ukraine?
That’s an “interesting” take.
STFU.

Wait so, its Ukraines fault for allowing their Russian puppet government to be influenced by the United States? And somehow this is Ukraine starting this conflict and not Russia? That only makes sense if you think that Russia has the right to do whatever they want to Ukraine which is a rejection of Ukrainian sovereignty.
Joined today and spewing russian propaganda, name a more iconic duo.