No Kings on Presidents Day
No Kings on Presidents Day
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Anyone think these scattered recent attempts at protest might be astroturfed by the right and the listed website might be a trap to create a mailing list of targets for the right to monitor?
Need clarity on organizers and money behind these protests and if any established groups like DSA, Indivisible, ETC. are attached.
Edit: A bit more potentially from USA Today. So next question is if anyone knows Kay Evert directly and can speak to their legitimacy in the space? Trust, but verify - We don't need to fight within our own movement, but we also don't need to follow anyone blindly.
Pretty sure DSA isn't involved, my local chapter also had the same concerns as it's not super clear who is organizing it.
https://fiftyfifty.one/ is from r/50501 on reddit.
Of course, everything has risk, but I don't personally find that group to be problematic.
From the article you linked in your edit:
The 50501 moderators also partnered with Political Revolution, a PAC and volunteer-only activist organization founded out of the conclusion of Sen. Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign in 2016.
The 50501 movement and Political Revolution said in a joint press release they are calling for the removal or resignation of President Donald Trump, investigations into his administration appointees including Elon Musk, the repeal of "oppressive" executive orders and the restoration of diversity, equity and inclusion frameworks.
They've been around since 2017. There's surely a bunch more information about them than about 50501, and they're "vouching" for 50501.
Protest you say?
Remember when they beat the shit out of protesters, shot or jailed them and slapped insane charges on them? Simply because they protested genocide? O how we miss those days, such a democracy it was.
Well when shit eventually boils over, at least we can point back and say, "we tried to ask nicely."
Is there any evidence this has happened? Looking at any news source at all.
Today is the 16th.
No there's not.
Thanks, not currently in the country and the time zone has me confused.
It's not "we the people". It's "we the USAians". That kind of mindless nationalism is how we got here (genocide, refugee cleansing, etc). It's a source of fascism, not a solution.
I don't understand your comment. Are you saying that the phrase "we the people" is nationalist? If so, I'd disagree. It's the first few words of the preamble to the constitution. It would be strange if the constitution didn't specifically refer to the United States citizens. "We the people" isn't saying "USA first," it's a callback to the ideal that every American citizen should be equal, without kings, as other similar documents defining the government of monarchies would be under some monarch's authority, not "the people." Whether that ideal has been upheld or not is a different conversation entirely, but the phrase itself as a rejection of monarchy and oligarchy is a good message to repeat against Trump and Elon.
The exact line of the preamble of The United States Constitution is "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union,..."
It's a direct allusion to the United States' foundational document, and rephrasing that allusion does not make it less nationalist.
It's also a document which many US citizens strongly identify with, and they are invoking that phrase explicitly to gain rapoire and support from those US citizens. Rephrasing "We the People" would only dilute that virtue signal and lower its efficacy.
Why are all these things thrown together with barely a few days notice?
I'm not American, but I see a bunch of these popping out of nowhere here in Lemmy, nowhere else and they barely get any attention.
People really need to get organized better. Get some big names behind them and then organize these things.
The "big names" are mostly okay with what's happening.
Also, labor strike on a Saturday was being floated... Travel to state capitol on a weekday at noon? Agree with some others speculating that these are either baby steps of a desperate movement forming with growing pains (fine) or deliberate astroturfing bullshit meant to sap energy, sow confusion and make people disengage. With the calculated and frantic pace of the other heritage foundation/2025 moves to date, wouldn't surprise me if this was the right.
Anyone have any back story on the organizers and money backing any of these recent protest efforts?
While I appreciate the symbolism, the scheduled time is when most people outside of government have to work, while most people in government do not.
So we chose a time least convenient to protestors, to impress the people that aren't even there.
It has to be called a 'protest' because general strikes are outlawed. The idea is a show of force to demonstrate the impact the protest could have if it continued. It isn't a party, a presentation, or a performance. It is the decision to exert the economic influence of not working (but not striking for legal reasons).
Well, I'll be damned.
People have been picketing the Tesla dealership in San Francisco. That seems like a good place to target on Presidents Day, too.
Not only is he not a gorram king, far as I'm concerned, the orange turd no longer has any legitimacy even as president. What must a president elect do before they can have the authority of that office converted to them? Swear an oath. Violate that oath (and he very clearly has done so), and you abdicate the rights and privileges of the office. But, obviously, those with the ability to do something about it are lining up to kiss the ring instead. ಠ_ಠ
Anyway, that's my thoughts on the matter; we all should start declaring loudly that since he has violated his oath, he loses the mantle of authority.
Does it really work that way though?
Presidents remain president while enough people recognise their presidency.
Unfortunately just a few months ago a majority of voters elected him with a mandate to do exactly what he's doing.
Don't slip into the trap of believing their way of spinning the facts!
No, only like a third of eligible voters chose fascism. And, truthfully, the real numbers are far less. What do you think the "little secret" they were congratulating themselves about was?! Between Trump praising how much Musk know about voting machines, as well as saying that's why they took Pennsylvania - and then little X, in the fucking oval office, starts talking about his adventures with Dad in places "they weren't supposed to be"... Oh, not to mention Musk making the odd public comment at the time about how if Trump doesn't win, he wonders how much time he'll be locked up for.
But anyway, sorry for the word vomit! I guess you could call me "triggered" these days 😝
The point is - if the 2/3 or more of us not radicalized find solidarity, his presidency ends.
Is it weird that the whois information for that site has the registrant contact address in Iceland?
Harder for the US government to take it down I suppose?
That's just for the TLD .one fiftyfifty.one has its contact information private.
Thanks, that’s why I wanted to double check, I don’t know a whole lot about how website registration related stuff works.
Vive la résistance!
Still, no one cares.
Not yet.
