If file systems are databases, then does that mean storing a sqlite db on a HDD is database inception?
@slazer2au Yes!
@linuxmemes Wow, that worked!
How do you post from mastodon to lemmy?
@mogoh I just mentioned the group and it worked!
The way it's supposed to be!
I'm so happy for this omfgrotflolcopter
Federation.
Wait till you get a comment from threads. I've only had it happen once and it made me feel dirty.
@mogoh AFAIK, I should mention @linuxmemes handle to make the comment visible inside the original Lemmy thread.
@drq
It does!
@30p87 Okay, looks like we *finally* have *actual* groups in Fedi that are compatible across the board.
I've been waiting for this for so long, I've almost given up all hope.
@drq what worked
@th3rdsergeevich@udongein.xyz
@drq @linuxmemes you forgor to mention linuxmemes
everything is a file including a filesystem*
* including databases
git repo is blockchain
For example, a directory full of spreadsheets.
Somewhere, a sysadmin is pulling his hair out
Tbh still preferred to that asshat who rolls out an MS Access "app"
*starts rocking back and forth in chair
or CSV files
and anuses are vaginas, as long as you treat them as one.
bussy
As a man of science I prefer to test every theory.
the anus isnt self lubricating :(
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/24784-anus-function
Muscles, nerves and mucous membranes in your anus
It is though...
It can be if you're lactose intolerant.
You're right! Ill just store all this data as static json files in a directory then
Didn't someone actually try making SQL as a filesystem and it ended up being something like 50 times slower than ZFS after they applied a ton of optimizations?
Not as a serious project, but more like a joke to see what would actually happen.
And files are streams. 🎵 Islands in the stream. 🎵
🎵 That is what we awk 🎵
They’re more like blob storage.
Blob storage usually uses a FS back end so it’s more like blob storage is like a file system
Just fucking putting data into json files in a folder is so much easier than databases. Sure, databases are faster and give you access to powerful SQL queries. But if you're just making something small and simple, you don't need those things. Save yourself the hassle and just use the filesystem.
Or use minio/s3, which can either be the best or the worst of both worlds depending on your usecase.
The trouble is, filesystems don't have ACID. The first time you have a power loss during a write, your data will get corrupted.
Hmm that's a valid criticism, thanks for pointing it out
Duckdb can query them with SQL like they are in a database. Csv, tsv, parquet also. You can even connect to and query postures and cloud storage also
That's less the Unix way and more the BeOS way.
@drosophila Well, both filesystems' and databases' function is to manage and retrieve data.
BeOS just did it better.
But they are not DBMS
Filesystem-as-a-db is why MongoDB is webscale. You just turn it on and it scales right up.
Every Homestuck fan already knows this.
@RizzRustbolt What's your fetch modus, warrior?
I love how pacman/libalpm database is just directories with tiny little files, and it’s faster in resolving dependencies than mostly anything else
Honestly that's basically what CephFS is
@possiblylinux127 Or BeFS
BeFS doesn't run on top of a data store. CephFS runs on RADOS.
And the worst FAT32
The list of reasons filesystems are not databases is a database.
@drq Come on, that can't be your F I R S T post.
@linuxmemes@th3rdsergeevich It is my first op-post on lemmy, that's right.
Behold! I present to you: Database as Filesystem
And all code is data too, and all processes are data transformers
Well, that's ok, you are welcome.
@drq@mastodon.ml Second post?
@linuxmemes@lemmy.worldMine's more of a databivouac.
@pics
Does not work
I don't know why this one was such a good laugh, but great first post.
@some_guy Thank you!
