Found on a post about Kim Jon unbanning hot dogs
Found on a post about Kim Jon unbanning hot dogs
Found on a post about Kim Jon unbanning hot dogs
Jesus Christ.
So GDP isn't a good measure to use for this. The price of goods is very different from country to country, and GDP often doesn't translate to living conditions for the average person.
I tried to look up some information, since I don't actually know which is the poorer country, and I had no idea how really bad it was in North Korea. Haiti is a nightmare also. People are starving in both countries, which of course means that things are real real bad. But...
Average annual income in Haiti is $1,760. That's sure not great. Even with PPP, that's bad.
It's hard to tell anything about North Korea. But here's what I found: Average legal annual income in North Korea is from 60,000 to 120,000 won. Guess how much an egg costs?
1,500 won.
A standard legal income in North Korea is from $12 to $36 per year.
80% of people supplement their income with some form of illegal free-market activity, obviously. And there are a certain amount of rations provided by the state in addition to straight wages. Otherwise, everyone would starve. The black market is tolerated to some extent, although it is technically illegal. It's impossible to determine how much income is generated from it, so we have no idea.
Here's more: https://www.nknews.org/2022/02/whats-in-it-for-the-working-man-why-north-koreans-show-up-for-low-wage-jobs/
Honestly, if I had to guess, I think the Haitians probably have it worse off economically. Congratulations NK! You're not worst in the world.
Get out of here ya fuckin' westoid /s
wtf is a WeStIoD dUfUs???
/s
I thought it was westeros
As a general rule I just don't trust what anyone says about North Korea, the whole thing is so propagandized from every angle you might as well be trying to figure out the average yearly income of the people on North Sentinel Island.
As a general rule I just don’t trust what anyone says about North Korea,
Ah, it's like arguing with a conservative and then hearing them say, "But who knows what's REALLY true?"
Can you show me some propaganda from the anti-North-Korea angle, and why it isn't true?
I think there is pro-North Korea propaganda, and there is the truth which is horrifying and some people claim is propaganda. I'm not sure that much of the anti-North Korea stuff is propaganda. I'm open to being shown that I am wrong about that, though.
Tbf, North Korea is almost certainly wealthier than Haiti. North Korean GDP figures from western sources are completely made up, their economy is a black box. In fact, many GDP estimates of developing economies are inaccurate at best, if not dead wrong. Turns out that people living at the subsistence level, as well as authoritarian dictators and warlords, aren't particularly interested in reporting their earnings for taxation purposes.
Everything you said up until the last two words was correct. The inaccuracy isn't primarily caused by North Korean citizens inaccurately reporting, it's the government that doesn't release any information, or cooperate with other nations in activities that could help estimate numbers.
I wasn't just talking about North Korea, but developing economies in general. I understand that the NK government intentionally hides the numbers. I also specified that its not just the common people, but also the authoritarian leaders, such as Kim Jong Un, who would prefer to keep their money off the official books.
I solute the internet wiener warriors. It's a flaccid fight but someone's got to cover it. Better your buns than mine. Y'all cut the mustard. Katsup later, biiiii!
Not only did you waste your time reading this nonsense, but you also decided to share it and waste everyone else's time.
Well, that's the community for exactly that...no?
"That's why I'm here"
The up and downvote ratios are disappointing, but it's good to see them getting fact checked.
It's not strictly a fact check. Due to A) Haiti's governance collapse and B) no reliable estimate of conditions of life across all North Korea
I finally just blocked the entire instance. A lot of those folks aren’t exactly… right.
The hardcore tankies as just as bad as holocaust deniers.
Tankies and fascists have more in common with each other, and feudalists, than they do with workers/socialists. I'm convinced the horseshoe theory is just narcissism presenting across the political spectrum.
Only a fucking narcissist could believe authoritarianism, control, and subjugation are desirable. That's why its delusions of grandeur and megalomania all the way down.
Authoritarians gonna auth. Why particular holy book they wave around, the Bible, das Kapital, mein Kampf or whatever they have in North Korea is merely incidental.
Tankies are just fashists who are exploiting the glitch that makes the ideology behind the largest mass murders in history more socially acceptable in the west.
Same. I really wanted to be around other leftists but holy fuck the vast majority of them need serious help.
Wait, is ml supposed to be left leaning? 😂
My first account was on .ml, and it took me about half an hour to get completely jumped by a bunch of Stalinists. Ended up deleting my account, and was hesitant to create a new one.
Thankfully, it seems to be two instances, and I’ve blocked them both. My experience after that has been great.
Pretty sure most of them are holocaust deniers, just not the Holocaust you're thinking of.
How do you do that? I've reached my limit.
I’m using Arctic for iOS, and it has an option to block an instance.
(Sorry, I’m late responding 🤦🏻♂️)
I think it depends on your instance and/or app you're using.