I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!

the hilarious thing about these apologists is that the majority of the 1% wouldn’t even piss on them if they were on fire. we are beneath them.
You're 100% wrong and you should ask the burned and executed corpses of the original BLM organizers if they were beneath notice.

Can't shake the feeling that swapping panels 1 and 3 would make more sense.

No, no, we can’t be mean to the rich, that will upset them 🥺

Yes, kill them, by taxing them out of existence.

This would be ideal but I'm skeptical that it's actually possible. Bribes are cheaper than taxes, so I think they'd likely just prevent the taxes from happening by greasing the correct palms.
- Well yeah, that’s exactly what’s happened for at least the past 50 years. In 1968 corporations were paying 53% of their profits in taxes, and billionaires were paying 94% around that time! Btw, if you’re making billions, paying 94% still leaves you richer than most…
  Contrast that to today, where the system is so obviously broken during a time when Amazon is paying less in total taxes than a fry cook at McDonald’s.
  It would need to be done with actually no loopholes, and meaningful enforcement of consequences for those who would try to cheat (perhaps the guillotine).
- Don't they already just avoid paying taxes by not having a salary and just using bank loans or something? So they have no actual money in the bank
I think people would be okay with taxing them away, as well. It could be fine to give an either-or option to each billionaire, even.
Who will do this? Trump? Kamala? Superman?
This is not the way...
10% off (of their bodies)

I support this idea. Invite most of the world's nations' leaders, too. I think the Met-gala attendees and G20 summit attendees might be a good starting point all-in-all. Then seize the means of production etc., you know how it goes.

Didn't AOC go to the Met Gala?
- Yes, although IIRC she was sort of sponsored to go. She didn't pay for her seat or dress... I'm not sure we should hold that against her too much. Still don't like that she went but when someone else foots the bill? Fuck it, go have fun.
Oh yeah and then what. The Worlds 20st richest countries leaders are dead. The world is in chaos and you think communism would solve all problems, just like it did in China, the Soviet Union or Cuba. The people there have no problems right. Violent fanatism jippie!
- Why shouldn't I wish for people like you to die, who either defend the leaders and the oligarchs, who lick the boot, competing who's the best at it, in the sole hope that if they were to be, that would save them; or who are one of those people that should be taken to the guillotine first. You are the problem. Because this system you so ferociously rush to defend - you really think anything's gonna improve? Like really really?
  Humanity has, in its search for infinite growth forever, flown past every marker, set by people who actually know stuff, by studies and statements by experts in their field and metastudies and the entire scientific method fucking EVERYTHING, that indicates that we should stop it, because it's destroying the world and everything in it, including most of us. Most of us will die because of the decisions of the few. And it is people like you (in case you aren't one of the few) who are still giving these people the power to do so.
  And I don't think there's really anything we can do, now. Most of us, and I think you know who (or rather what kind of people) I mean by "us", will be killed by the powers that be, the ones whose boots you lick with such fervor. So why shouldn't I, or anyone likeminded to me, wish only for the worst for those people? They clearly do not care about anyone except themselves, so why should we reach across the aisle, so to say? They won't reach out to us. In this case, and I believe this is one of those universal truths, it will only lead to the empowerment of those who will not budge, and then - like what's happening in most countries atm - we get fascism! And don't get me wrong, these aren't your grampa's fascists, these are advanced fascists! With things to sell, like "security", or "stability", or perhaps "a promise that everything will be like it is and has been". Funnily enough, these are the same things the NSDAP sold in Germany not so long ago. With the same bible-thumping bullshit as the US has now. Back then it was the Jews (and the gays and the poles and the roma people and...) now it seems to be transgendered people first.
  Also why do you think communism and socialism has mostly failed? Because of your thorough research of it, by reading and shit yeah? So you could understand the intricacies of global geopolitics? Or was it a teacher, or some other person of authority (which you are so quick to bow down to, clearly) who told you that "it doesn't work" and that was the end of it? Don't bother your pretty little head with thoughts like that; here, lick the fucking boot.
  You are ruining the world and everything in it.
  edit: add. probably shouldn't have even begun to write this, as the sheer weight of your stupidity has driven me so far up the wall that I can't seem to be even able to form a coherent argument. But then again, why should I? It's not like telling you the truth will get you to stop the boot licking. So I don't fucking know, come at me I guess?

Every healthy society requires a robust guillotine maintenance capability, ideally across all competencies.

I'm for giving them a choice. The guillotine or we take away their money and make them work a minimum pay position in one of their factories for the rest of their lives. I'm pretty sure they would take the guillotine after a week.

This whole "kill the rich" thing is counterproductive and needs to stop. Advocating for murder has never been cool.

I respectfully disagree.
The ultra-rich aren't shy about killing you or your loved ones if it makes them an extra million. There are exceptions, but they're definitely not the rule.
Tit for tat. We're absolutely in a class war and the owner class has been winning for three or four consecutive decades. The inequality in society was lower during the French revolution than it is now. Hell, the pay Scrooge gave out in the old tale was more than minimum wage is today adjusted for inflation.
I'm not saying we need violence, but I am saying we need the threat of violence for these kind of people to do their part. No one needs a billion dollars, let alone a trillion.
- I also respectfully disagree. Tit for tat, taken to its logical conclusion, eradicates all life on the planet; if that's your goal, fine, you can make that argument, but that's ultimately a separate discussion. There were literal slaves and serfs around the time of the French Revolution---now you could make an argument that "wage slaves" or whatever exist in the first world, but that is pure abstraction when compared to the absolute widespread human suffering in France during the late 1700s. You would have to be entirely disconnected from reality to think that people, en masse, have it worse in first world countries than they did in France during the 1700s; that's a "log off" moment, for sure. If you want to expand the scope to the world at large, then, yeah, there is some fucked up stuff going on, and people (millionaires, billionaires, &c. &c.) do hoard wealth, but murdering them is not the solution; that won't even do anything to their accumulated wealthy, as most of it is tied up in corporate assets; instead, harsh regulation needs to be enacted on the system that allows these people to accumulate obscene amounts of wealth. instead, we have these very surface level takes that are just like "kill the billionaires", which solves nothing—frankly, its stupid. Now, if you want to alter the claim to "the threat of violence is needed," then I would be more inclined to agree; however, individually murdering certain billionaires is not productive; I don't know about you, but I don't want to match whatever vitriolic bullshit eye for an eye sentiment that these billionaires might have, and maybe that's an idealistic take and naive, but it feels right.
People are killed daily not so indirectly by billionaires. Overpriced medicine, Military industry, Unhealthy products, Monopolization of water and other resources and land, poisoning ground water with industrial waste, unsafe work conditions, the list is endless.
There is almost no billionaire that isnt responsible for someones death and in a moral world they would be in prison. So morals are already completely out of the window.
- Not every billionaire built their life doing something unethical. Killing them wouldn't make you any better. People also fuel monopolies out of convenience even if they have a choice to act ethical. We should strive for legislative change. The billionaire might be the owner of parts of a company, but we as a society use the services for our daily lives. What economic system that actually works also supports free ideas, innovation and the willingness to perform other than something based on capitalism (Communism never worked and doesn't reward it properly). Treating symptoms won't treat the cause. We need legislative change.
If you were a slave and I was your master, would killing me be murder?
- ...yes? But, as all people and legal systems agree, there are times when murder is legal and endorsed.
- Are you a literal slave? If you play with meaning, you can turn everyone into a slave and kill everyone. Is that what you want?
I prefer "eat the rich" as a metaphor for seizing their assets, not a literal endorsement of cannibalism. I'm actually surprised how many people literally mean "kill the rich". Are you guys actual sociopaths?
- I’m actually surprised (not really) how many people can come this close to getting it, but still be so desperate to follow their rules, that you manage to convince yourself billionaires will just freely and willingly give over those assets and all of the power that comes with them one day once we've asked nicely enough.. 🙄
- Nah, some of us just see that they buy the elections so that we can't vote for change. And they buy the judges so we can't sue for change. And they buy the media so we can't speak for change. So now we're exploring the extremely distasteful option because all other avenues for change have been blocked
I'll take some of your money then, I'm sure you won't mind considering how well-off you are (and how blind you are to those of us less fortunate). Oh, you don't want me to do that? If only there was some system, some measure of equality, some safety from poverty, a safety net for those that got dealt a shit hand and are juuuuust treading water... while fuckwads buy their second Bugatti this month.
So for now, off with their heads. A few rolling away and they will come up with something real quick.

Billionaires use violence all the time to get what they want. Just because they hide behind layers of abstraction that they've set up, doesn't mean they aren't using violence.

Don't tease me like this.

You don't need a mechanized execution machine to kill three people. You need it to kill the crowd of people.

And historically that's what it was used for. It was used BY the rich AGAINST the poor.

It was pretty much just one of the options used for death penalty from what I understand. Then there's the revolution bit but otherwise it was a state execution method used as late as 1977.
- TIL

Why does the proletariat, the largest class, not simply eat the bougouise?

Actually doing this would not only be immoral but just treat the symptoms of the downfalls of capitalism, not the cause. We need legislative change that has a proper social safety net, not violence LARPing.

In a perfect world, that would be ideal. But for at least 50 years, capital has been buying the legislators and we're backsliding even further from positive change. Without the threat, there's no reason for them to let things change for the better for the rest of us.

This whole populism trend is concerning to me. I agree that some folks are more responsible than others for the problems we face today. Even so, singling out and blaming a small group of people for the problems we face, then punishing them with legislation, is not the most productive way forward. We need real, serious solutions. "Get rid of X" rarely, if ever, works.

"rarely": so you admit sometimes the solution is "get rid of X" ? Then why would "get rid of billionaires" not be a solution for you ? To be clear I'm not saying we should kill them or physically hurt them in any way, we can simply reappropriate their wealth turning them into non-billionaire, also making it illegal for anyone to be a billionaire in the future. Why would that not work in your opinion ?
- What we need to think about is how this works practically. A billionaire isn't someone with a billion dollars in their bank account: it's someone with a 50% share in a business with a market cap of $2bn. How do we address that fairly?
  Now I'd say that a business with a certain level of profitability owes something to its employees, such that very few businesses would reach that level of capitalisation.
No, fuck X. Get rid of it.