Trump's victory reveals secret Republicans: Joe Rogan-obsessed Gen Z men
Trump's victory reveals secret Republicans: Joe Rogan-obsessed Gen Z men
Some Gen Zers probably lied about it who they were voting for.
Summary
Despite his conservative platform, Donald Trump made unexpected gains among Gen Z voters. Exit polls showed a shift, with young men favoring Trump by 2 points, a reversal from Biden’s previous lead.
Gen Z’s support for Trump may have been underestimated, as an Axios poll found nearly half of Gen Z voters lied about their vote, with young men more likely to support Trump quietly.
Trump connected with young men through appearances on popular podcasts and endorsements from social media influencers.
Disillusionment with the economy and frustration with the Democratic Party’s approach to working-class issues also drove some Gen Z voters to seek change, with Trump capitalizing on these sentiments.
Secret republicans?
Everyone I know who listens to Joe Rogan is clearly Republican if they aren't stating it themselves.
Didn't Joe Rogan endorse Bernie Sanders at one point? The guy seems to be all over the map.
Yeah, I went through a Rogan phase years ago back when he endorsed Bernie. He definitely was a little controversial even back then. I stopped listing as he got more controversial. I tuned back in briefly for the Trump and Rogan interview just out of curiosity. I was shocked to see how far Rogan has fallen.
For context, I’m a Gen Z man. I’m really disappointed the way my fellow Gen Z men are going.
I’ve gone on my own political journey being raised pretty conservative and becoming liberal as I met more diverse people. So honestly maybe Rogan should have always been a red flag, but I did look up to him for a while. I really wanted him to be a progressive voice, but it’s blatantly obvious now he is just as bad as the rest.
AFAIK he always claimed to be a centrist until a few days ago. I don't think he exactly endorsed Bernie, but he's said very nice things about him and his policies.
With dumbass hot takes like "You don't need vitamins. You just need to concentrate about the pump."
Gotta keep em busy somehow voting stupidly and paying wild interest rates on their lifted trucks or they might start thinking for themselves
I’ve been listening to Rogan since 2017ish and he has totally shifted rightward. I used to listen to every episode because it was usually either funny or informative. Now it’s preachy and just captured by right wing talking points that border on conspiracy theories. My takeaway is that he listens to his comedian friends instead of his more educated guests, which is a microcosm of America. His show is only as good as the guest and subject matter… Neil DeGrasse Tyson? Fantastic. Trump? Problematic. It just comes across that since he is now in the running to be a billionaire with good investing strategy, he is now switching his interests and views to match. If you recognize a guest, definitely listen, but skip over everything else.
The only people this was a "secret" too are people who weren't looking or listening.
It sucks how much people are ignoring this.
Well, a lot of people - mostly people in a certain age range - kept saying how magical the younguns are, how media savvy and how morally upright they were, and how they were going to get things right where the stupid boomers, Gen X and Gen Y got it all wrong...
And while I'd like to believe that, I've seen little evidence of better instruction anywhere K-12 or in higher education about logical fallacies and teaching about a good media diet. Being able to install an app on your phone doesn't make anyone media savvy; these things are designed so nearly any idiot can use it.
Why anyone ever thought that "the kids" were going to be able to have a better filter than older generations is like assuming kids plopped in front of Saturday morning TV that was meant to PREY on them were more "media savvy" about that environment....sigh.
I'm a highschool teacher. This generation of students isn't even more tech savvy, let alone media savvy. Your exactly correct about the design of modern technology; this generation grew up with tablets and iPhones, they have no idea how to do some incredibly basic tasks unless an app does it for them, and they no understanding of really core - and in my mind simple - computer use concepts like what a folder is, or how find a file on a device and attach it to an email.
We've begun teaching media literacy in the highschools, but it's unfortunately falling into the pitfalls or most education. We pull specialized articles from sources that students would literally never engage with, discuss how to read such articles and how they can be misleading, and never make the connection to the kind of content that students actually absorb. Students are day-in, day-out learning from influencers and social media, and we're handing them articles from 2010 reprinted into textbooks and news posts they'd never have the patience to read, while continually reinforcing that cell phones are toys that are meant to stay out of the classroom and used in private or with small groups of friends.
The kids aren't alright, but that's not on them.
If anything the easy access to information and apps are a lower barrier of entry than in the past meaning you can be dumber and still participate.
I don't want to shit on an entire generation but I am also not so impressed. This is a historic thing though where people don't think highly of younger generations. One needs to be aware of this bias.
My little sister actually dodged a date with one of these chucklefucks only a few days ago. I think they were supposed to meet on Friday for the first time, but she asked if they could meet this coming week because she was slightly freaking out about the implications of the election results… dude straight up admitted he was excited, and that he was a MAGA/MAHA (I had to look that up - apparently it’s “make America healthy again” (????????????)). Instablocked that fucker lmao.
I wonder how many start trying to hide their magabrain, their magagear, their media diet, etc...for the early part of dating.
If my experience is any indication, they won't be able to keep their yap shut about it for long, and....welcome to getting ghosted, swiped left on, and just generally having a very, very long dry streak. :)
Secret? What secret? Its been fucking obvious for the last 10 years!
In other words: brainless morons let Rogan take a dump in their skull. It's like the people that used to let Rush take a giant shit in their heads on the daily.
Remember how everyone was telling us how magical the next "generation" is? Yeah, I wasn't really buying it, either. I fucking hate that Maher is right about this kind of thing, though.
Maher is right about this...
Maher is an insufferable cunt who just hates all young people. Broken clock and all that... I couldn't take listening to him even like 4+ years ago, I can't imagine how much more annoying he's gotten as he gets older.
Cmon, you gotta admit Tom Sawyer is a jam.
There was a reason they dipped deep into social media and podcasts, Dems didn't understand this.
Less public / archived spaces as well. Videogame lobbies were rampant with Trump / MAGA messaging in 2019. Not sure what its like now as I quit all online gaming. Anyone 14-17 during that period who are now of voting age has likely gotten a massive dose of right wing propaganda.
That was Steve Bannons plan way back from 2015-16. He was the one to really push for indoctrinating the gamers and making gamer culture and maga anti-woke one in the same...
Now you can't even go into a single steam discussions forum for a new popular game without seeing multiple "go woke go broke" and "is this game woke?" posts... Makes me sick...
Oh, but she went on The View! So, she's all set.
They underestimated the puppeteer who bought a social media for push hateful propaganda.
I think people also underestimate the amount of twitch streamers that are leaning right wing. Asmogold I think it the most popular one, but there are many others as well
2 percent is not the wave they want it to be. Especially not with 10 million Democrats staying home.
Call them what they are : boys
I love how the picture is an attractive able bodied young white man with facial hair. I am so tired.
But Lemmy told me Gen Z was going to save us all this election.
If only it was just Lemmy...I was being told by so many self-styled authorities that this generation had some kind of magical properties that no one that came before them has had, and just by virtue of "getting it" when it came to consuming things like social media (or something).
This is dumb. It's always been dumb. The target demo is the target; they aren't savvier than anyone else is that is a target. So when boomers were saying stupid shit about how Gen X "just gets it" when it comes to something like MTV, or the early days of the (privatized) 'net, that was just as stupid. MTV was a product and Gen X was the target demo, emphasis on target. The elitists quickly figured out a way to monetize the (privatized) 'net with some of the first target demo being boomers and Gen X.
It's no different today. Without serious education in critical thinking, this stuff is only weaponized against the target demo, they don't know shit about the new product any more than anyone else does.
Tbf Gen Z women showed up.
But in the same breath they said that Democrats were right to ignore young people's concerns because they don't vote.
If they're too insignificant to listen to, they're too insignificant to blame.
I may slap the next person I hear say that. Fuck gen z soy boi beta cucks!
Lockdowns and distancing supposedly ended one of our flu strains but unfortunately stupidity never dies off.
"Disillusionment with the economy and frustration with the Democratic Party’s approach to working-class issues also drove some Gen Z voters to seek change"
Democrats: WE NEED MORE CHENEY! Drill baby drill! Look at me I'm a conservative! That's what they want right? Right?
.../Wrist
If, and thats a big if, we ever have elections again. Democrats need to stop trying to build bridges. The reds will never reach back across the aisl3. Ever.
But they have everything now and a corrupt supreme court to rubber stamp any constitution-breaking bullshit they're going to pull. N 2026, they'll martyr the orange buffoon to let their controllable puppet Vance become president. He'll use this "tradgedy" to declare martial law and cancel elections. They won't willingly give up power agajn.
Democrats need to stop trying to build bridges.
They need to rebuild the ones they destroyed with their base.
Nah, that was already known