Chrome Canary just killed uBlock Origin and other Manifest V2 extensions

shrugs in Firefox

Careful, there are some edgy people out there who don’t want to use more than one browser because Firefox doesn’t work with their cameras /s
Meanwhile, I’ll still be using Firefox too
- Who needs to give their browser access to their camera?
You say that like they didn't just remove several other adblock extensions themselves
- From what I've heard, they only "removed" uBlock Origin Lite. Normal uBO is still up.
- The one they removed isn't relevant until Firefox also removes manifest V2 which they have no plans for.
- Except they didn't... If you read more than headlines
- shrugs in books
  They have no idea how stubborn I am.
Why not LibreWolf? It's Firefox without Mozilla's BS.
- Haven't heard of it before now

What could go wrong when you let an ad company dictate the browser standards/rules.

I know we have Firefox and some forks like librewolf, but percentage wise it feels like a lost battle ( even if I am on Firefox ).

If only people switched en masse to Firefox for the ad blocker. Wouldn't that be something... One big collective FU to Google.

Oh well. One can dream I guess.

The average Joe or Jane have no idea about ad blocking possibilities. They think ads are just the normal price you pay for surfing the web.
I have even shown people the difference between their browsing experience and mine, and still they can't be arsed to install an ad-blocker.
But then again, they use tiktok and Instagram and all the other brain-numbing shit out there.
- They think ads are just ~~the normal price you pay for surfing~~ part of the web
- The average Joe or Jane have no idea about ad blocking possibilities. They think ads are just the normal price you pay for surfing the web.
  Actually about a third of all users have an adblocker installed. Adblocking has been mainstream for a while, no doubt why Google finally stopped pretending they were OK with it.
- I personally wouldn't mind ads, if they weren't too obtuse and/or malware ridden.
  I often turn off the adblocker for independent news sites, as theirs are less obtuse and are vetted better than just running an AI to detect nudity and/or slurs.

We've known this was coming for a while now . . . but I suppose not everyone reads tech news.

one might say that this piece of news is the... canary... in the coal mine?
I mean... Even if everyone knows it's coming, you still need to have notice when it actually happens right?

I used to recommend uBlock as a no-brainer, now folks really need to change towards a better browser.

Or get network wide blocking. Doesn’t prevent everything but it does prevent most ads. Makes the internet tolerable at least.
- nah, lets get them switched away from chromium based spy machines.
- Something like NextDNS as a no-brainer? It works but hits the limit of the free tier if people use it beyond their phone.
- Pihole is good for a private network, but you can forget it in a work setting, especially corporate networks.
- I recommended pihole to my senior webdeveloper. She didn't know about it and was blown away by the concept. She installed it immediately and is now living happily ad free.

Maybe we're thinking about this wrong. Maybe we should all start running plugins that just load whatever ads that show up in the background hundreds of times without showing them to us. Every viewer is thousands upon thousands of impressions and click through rates become absolutely miserable. We can make the ads worthless or maybe even make them cost a significant amount of money to host.

AdNauseam does this to a lesser degree. I'm not sure how effective it is.
https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam
I had an add blocker on phone thats worked that way (AdAway). It would just redirect adds into some folder and apps would be satisfied.

I suspect this will soon be followed by a renewed effort by google to kill firefox compatability.

Have you looked at the market share of Firefox lately? Why even waste time on that?
- Because this is likely to drive a lot of people to try switching. And they're the type of people who try to convince other people to switch, too. Techies, etc.
  When forced with trying to keep family safe from abusive and/or manipulative ads, this is a pretty hot topic. Plenty of people tell their family what browser to use and even set it up for them with ad blockers, etc.
  I've recently had some experiences that tell me my parents are at a vulnerable age and can't fully protect themselves, so it's pretty important to have control of this.
So you will need to have a backup browser to use only Google services and everything but Google search blocked in ff
- Its not google services i worry about ive pretty much degoogled everything i can. Its the google bits so deeply embedded into almost every website across the internet. If they implemented some tpm bs into chrome that somehow Verity's itself with tpm and google servers before it loads anything then that instantly makes a majority of websites juat not work on ff with no fixes backdoors or bypasses. They will try, we have little hope in stopping it, and most people wont even notice let alone give a fuck.

Didn't see this coming. Thanks for reporting it 😁

Looks like time to find a new browser!

May I interest you in browsers based on FireFox?

Hopefully wikipedia recognizes this as the official Canary in the Chrome mine. I was first impressed with chrome book because of seeing them used for education, getting my own laptop during school would've been mindblowing to kid me. I was unimpressed with the strangulation process of the OS but again shocked when they added a linux boot mode. There needs to be better alternatives by now, I would be ok with an OS developed by the department of education in conjunction with higher educational institutions. Could have a decent non-profit approach to a browser and ad blockers could legitimately be built in as a "protect the children" aim of approach.

I take it you've never been involved in such an endeavor? What you propose would take a decade a minimum due to the sheer number of nested advisory committees that would be required for those groups to interface. Better a non-profit group begins the work and then solicits these group's input at the design stage.
- I think super-apps are the way to go, only way to prevent one company from monopolizing click-stream data for advertising.
  some apps already do this and their users don't suffer from the same issue (granted, they have different issues)

Been using Firefox for quite a time now! What are the other alternatives?

Ladybird is working really hard to become good enough for daily drive. Will they succeed? Idk. How long will it take? Idk.
- Is that Firefox alternative?
Brave, Librewolf (didn't test yet)

How many times has this been announced already?

Yes
Think of it as an iceberg & Chrome users as a boat.
Assuming no changes, this is landing in Chrome Canary now, so we're watching the Chrome Canary boat hit the iceberg. The Chrome Beta boat is going to hit in a few weeks. Finally the Chrome Stable boat is scheduled to hit in mid November.
Now Google may choose to hold back actually enabling this flag immediately. It wouldn't be the first delay. But likely in mid November is when all the posts will start to appear of people asking where their ad blocker went.
(Although I'm guessing it actually is delayed until after the holidays and in the new year, but that's just wild speculation.)

I thought they already killed it? They keep killing it multiple times.

Yeah I heard it was permanently removed like a month ago. Still working for me.

Are Opera and it's derivatives affected by this?

Yes. There's only 3 major browsers. Chromium (Chrome), Firefox, WebKit (Safari). Nearly every other webbrowser is a fork of one of these, most are forks of Chromium, including Opera. As such, most webbrowsers will be affected by the change.
- Good, hopefully I can convince my friends to switch over
- What's duck duck go's browser?
Why would you use a Chinese browser?
- what does the browser being Chinese have to do with anything?
- I don't?
  My friends do though sadly
imagine opera and opera gx 💀
Not this with built-in adblockers, despite someone's wishes.
- Their adblockers suck though, especially on youtube

Can we get a fork orba dedicated browser that stays on manifest v2? Even Firefoxs lack of plans is disconcerting. I want expmicit plans to not play along

Lmao get rekt, I'm on a gecko based browser.

Great day to be a firefox user!

I'm currently using safari on a MacBook. Way more power efficient than chrome.

Hoping that Vivaldi is going to hold off somehow - perhaps with their built-in ad blocker. And before you say "switch to Firefox", I'll say I'm not gonna, at least not until I see native mouse gestures implemented and working everywhere.

I made the switch from Vivaldi back to Firefox recently. I loved Vivaldi, but I'm happy with Firefox too.
- Fair enough. All I'm saying is that mouse gestures are so much ingrained in my muscle memory that their absence in native capacity (and reliance on extensions for that) is a show-stopper for me.

I'm being downvoted heavily on Reddit for suggesting thorium instead of Chrome.

My guess is bots as thorium is way faster and the dev hates the thought of a chromium browser without Adblock.

Moronically I think the Reddit hive mind is following that opinion and I may have to delete the comment or face site wide blacklisting which is what usually happens.

tbh i dont like thoriums update cycle you stay on 1 version for 4 months the firefox fork is even worse thats why i use ungoogled chromium instead
- Kinda agree it should have an update built in, I'm using Chris Titas/Titus update script to update it.
  Which to be honest doesn't seem to update it much.
  I'm mostly basing my use on it being quite fast and the dev cursing out Google and swearing to keep Ublock.
Thorium doesn't support secure streaming, so while it was amazeballs fast, it wasn't useful. Ended up picking Vivaldi for watching streaming.
Didn't thorium had some drama the other day though?
- i am pretty sure it was resolved and explained , crisis Titus also had a video but ever since its members only and i cannot find a reupload.
- First I've heard of it honestly, I'm in the weird position I don't really trust Google or Mozilla so all I'm using is forks.
  If those go ad crazy I'm kinda screwed.

Wtf is Chrome Canary?

Chrome Canary, the pre-beta release version with the most far-out feature set
- I see. So the beta version got the the “feature” later than the production version? Google really is in great hands.
  Thanks!