This morning I could hardly find a headline to confirm Israel invaded Lebanon. Everything was about how scary Iran is.
What the fucking fuckery fuck media? How is Iran's response to Israel's invasion more important than Israel invading? I shouldn't have to dig for 20 minutes to confirm something like that.
These things happened hours apart. And many of the stubs behind the Iran headlines made no mention of why they would fire missiles at Israel. After today I won't be surprised when we start getting people in here who think Iran fired for no reason and Israel hasn't invaded Lebanon. It was an absolute failure of news media.
I don’t know if things are different in the US but I haven’t seen much indifference to the bombing of Palestine. I’ve seen an awful lot of mention of children killed, etc.
The republican party is pushing bills through the lower branch that enshrine real antisemitism through Zionism. That's where US media and politics are at regarding the genocide.
They're somewhat different. Our news media doesn't properly question our security agencies (they basically stopped doing this after 9/11), and Israel is our strongest Middle East alley, so they tend to present the Israeli narrative of the war with little or no scrutiny. That being said, given the sheer amount of destruction and death caused by the Israeli bombings, our media really can't ignore the suffering of the Palestinians this time. They're still far too deferential to Israel's justification for the suffering, but they're not ignoring.
Have you heard about them bombing Lebanon yesterday though, or even for the last few months? It got a passing mention and only in the context of "this might cause Iran to respond". And there's a few more flags on that picture.
This depends a lot on where you are. This is a heavily partisan issue so you'll likely find rural Republicans who haven't seen many people IRL who have issues with the bombing of Palestine.
Its different from European coverage yes, but it's also not even remotely similar to what people like ozma keep claiming it is. The Palestine issue is being talked about CONSTANTLY, just perhaps still not with enough urgency. They then just hyperbolize it into shit like this "meme"
Because the entire western world seemingly has to tip toe around Israel and let them get away with whatever they want because of some collective shame and empathy Europe and America still feel for something that happened before most people in Israel today were ever born...
The holocaust was bad...yeah. But the fact that that tragedy somehow gives the state of Israel an unlimited pass in perpetuity to be assholes is just wrong.
Same I think. Here in the UK the main two TV news channels (BBC and Sky) have extensively reported on deaths and suffering in Gaza, and now they are reporting on the situation in Lebanon
Of course there are also right-wing papers (Telegraph, Express) who give the impression that Israel is always good and everybody else is always bad, but they're just one segment of the overall media
The funny thing is AP is actually also a primary source distributor, so they actually provide their reporting to thousands of media outlets so they can report the details. Unfortunately, because news outlets these days are focused on profits, we get stuff like this:
Kinda stupid when you consider more people probably read NYT than AP and Reuters combined, despite it being a secondary source. Or they go watch/read even more biased things on stuff like Fox.
Don't be mad when opinion articles express peoples opinions. All the other shown articles are a decade old and/or opinion articles. There is room to complain, so why not do it accurately?
Ozma is anything but a troll. They're highly consistent in their political beliefs, and generally knows the topics they post about. Not everyone you disagree with is a troll or a foreign agent.
Who said anything about foreign agents? But you do seem to have a sense of my objections to their agenda. Anyone who posts so prolifically will at any rate have thick enough skin to tolerate being misunderstood.
Israel and Iran going for a real war, would make the currently bad situation even worse. However it does come with the advantage that both countries might get rid of their shitty leaders.
I don't think that's true. Because Biden won't be able to resist. We'll have US troops on the ground and he'll still be saying Hamas is blocking the peace process.
Israel and Iran going for a real war, would make the currently bad situation even worse.
For who? It'll create more bad situations, but the currently bad situation in Palestine will get better, if anything. I know everyone is afraid of an all out war in the Middle East but in the long term it's one possible way to collapse the status quo and make way for a more sustainable future for the region. War is bad, but it's not worse than a warmonger getting to steamroll everyone else and Israel needs to regain the fear of God (and their neighbors) before there's ever a chance for peace. Egypt and Syria proved it in opposite directions in 1973.
Edit: A weaker Iran would also help countries like Lebanon and Iran gain some real independence (and turn the tide against Assad); they're definitely not sinless here.
There are anti war protests in Israel against Netanyahu since Hamas attack on the October 7th. As soon as the fighting ends an new election will be called and Netanyahu is probably going to loose that one. That would mean a more moderate government for Israel and the chance for a deal with the PLO. However a war with Iran delays this and we know what is going on in Palestine right now.
A weaker Iran might help, but the way of getting rid of Iran as a problem is a revolution within Iran. I doubt a war against Israel would help with that.
Please provide references and evidence of conflict spanning back a thousand years. The conflict started after the Ottoman Empire collapsed and the region got divided up in a colonial experiment by the French and British.
Small corrections: Iran launched missiles from their home soil; those weren't airstrikes. Unfortunately Israel's air force is unparalleled in the Middle East.