garbage collectors have a strong union, do they not?
Yes they do, and their strikes are highly effective for obvious reasons, and no mayor trying to win an election wants that egg on their face.
Or banana peel.
Java's is out of a job forever because of Oracle
Java's still a managed environment, and in either case, Rust shows it's not strictly necessary anyways. Wouldn't mind some software engineer unions, though.
They lift heavy stuff and run around all day, they gotta be strong af
Running is not as extreme as you think, a lot of it is just carrying on the momentum of the truck after you jump off, other tham that it's mostly just brisk walking.
The heavy stuff depends, regulations typically impose a limit on weight but a lot of people don't follow it. You learn to use proper lifting form quite quickly though or you'll get a hernia
Src: did it for 3years as student job
Depends on location. Some places really screw those guys. It's a shitty job and should be something people can live comfortably on.
It's honestly not that shitty of a job (see my earlier comment https://programming.dev/comment/8949488 )
Source: did it as student job for 3 years.
Sometimes depends on area. The guys at the facility usually don't.
"You study well and you will end up sitting in the office"
People sitting in the office cubicle: i hate this job.
Do people like jobs? Today I was thinking that being a blacksmith could be cool. But I guess I was born to deploy k8s clusters.
I like my work my job however I am on the fence about.
I like my job, but it's still a job.
I like cooking, but I'd never want to be a chef. One might like tending to their own little garden, but being a farmer is a completely different thing. You might like making your own little game, but working at a gaming company is not the same thing.
A job is a job, at the end of the day. Sometimes I think it could be better to keep the things you like doing as a hobby, rather than your job, as you might enjoy doing them more in the end.
My job is a little cool but idk how long it will last
Would I rather be on the beach with the family or on a cruise? Absolutely.
Reality is I need to work to feed my family. I have a job I'm good at and I find the work fulfilling. That makes it tolerable and I don't find going to work everyday an absolute drag.
Do people like jobs?
It happens. Rarely, though.
Aaand typically get most of the day off
Gonna put it out there, I'm starting to suspect big garbage has been waging a propaganda war to push us away from the ultimate job
You do need to start work at like 4am though. That's a deal killer for me.
I am an engineer who deals a lot with the waste sector. Garbage, recycling, and feces.
I strongly encourage everyone who is looking for a change or doesn't know what they want to do to at least consider this stuff. Recession-proof, job security, decent pay, very few and small busy seasons, long vacation time, some really cool people to work with.
There are obvious cons. I don't enjoy site visits. I deal with a lot of unqualified clients. Fuck Parsons and Jacobs so very hard.
You get most of the day off after having worked a full day + still need a full and thorough shower + have low energy because it's a physically demanding job
Src: did it for 3 years as student job
Yeah my mom told me as a kid that if I quit school I would have to dig ditches for a living. Those guys are union with high pay and good job security because we always need proper drainage just like we always need garbage to go away.
Boomers didn’t describe work to us properly because they wanted to brag to their friends about how we “went to college” and like “are a doctor” or “gonna be the next Bill Gates” or something
Garbage collector was a dream job to me as a kid. Ended up as a software developer.
Depending on the software, you still get to think about garbage collection!
Yep, because most often you get to create the garbage that gets collected afterwards.
The garbage collector around my house doesn't get out of the truck to get the trash it's all hydraulic arm. Sounds pretty chill to me.
Just snort a bunch of drugs every weekend and you won't smell a thing too
All I need is a pet, and allergies do that for me. Cheaper than drugs!
The ones at my parents are so lazy they'll write a note saying that 3ft apart ain't enough, get out of their truck and put that note on the can, then get back in and leave
With how little is in their cans it's more work to write the fucking Note than to nudge the can another 2 inches so your lazy ass doesn't have to aim the arm AT ALL rather than a little bit
I've done trash collection in other scenarios by hand so I'm not just shitting on these guys for their job, too
The garbage collector has to get up early, go out in most weather, and deal with things we'd rather not deal with, and lift heavy stuff into dangerous machinery all day.
That being said, when I had a similar amount of hard labor to do I got in the best shape of my life.
With the trucks that have the hydraulic arms, this isn't really true anymore outside of major cities with street parking. I remember growing up you could also just out big bulky items out on trash day (mattresses, toilets, tubs, etc) and they'd take it. Now, at least in my town, you have to schedule bulk pickup, there are limits on how often you can do it (I think my town is no more than like 2 times a month or quarter), and there are restrictions on what can be left for bulk.
Even with the hydraulic arm trucks, they weigh the bin as they pick it up, and will put it back down and leave if its over the weight threshold (meaning you're throwing away something in your bin you shouldn't be, and would need to schedule bulk for it).
Oh, the times, they are a-changin'.
Edit: When I lived in Baltimore, it was the old school style system of two guys on the back of the truck running to the curb, grabbing the bin, throwing it in the back, returning it, and hopping back on. Outside of that, I've only seen the hydraulic arm ones in suburbia for the last 15+ years.
Use languages with manual memory managment
garbage collecting is seen as dirty and undesirable by society, so for them to want to do it, you have to pay more
in my country they are badly paid anyway though so fuck it lol
Did it as a student job for 3 years. I was paid roughly 50% more than with all other student jobs.
Honestly collecting garbage is not even that bad. I got paid to do fitness all day, spending time outside while chatting with my coworker. The people sorting the trash, that was who we felt bad for. They had all the downsides of the job with none of the benefits.
Me, a facilities worker for a fast food chain, earning less than them all and still getting mystery trash juices on my hands.
Work hard, kids.
Working hard rarely gets you anything except more work
That's why I documented everything that they requested and flat out refused to work on anything that doesn't have a ticket.
Mmmm, mystery juice. My favorite! slurp
Tastes like death :D
In the previous generation white collar jobs paid more than blue collar ones. That is why.. But the world is changing.
Aren't white-collar jobs less likely to be unionized?
yes, but they also paid much more until recently
And it's about fucking time.
Where do garbage collectors make more than teachers?
It's a decent union public sector job and pays decently, but so is teaching and that requires more education.
Well for starters if both went on full strike as of tomorrow. Society would collapse from the massive amount of garbage first.
But mostly because Teaching is both a "women's job" and secondly, it is a "passion" job. Everything that is someone's passion always pays less because people will accept lower wages for their "passion".
Also Garbage Collectors aren't public sector in many places.
So what you're saying is, teachers are actually the stupid ones for wasting time and money at higher education to work longer hours, have to work overtime at home for no pay, often have to buy their students supplies, and get about the same wage as a garbage collector?
No wonder the majority of my instructors were idiots, it's a predisposition!
No, I'm saying teachers make considerably more than garbage collectors as in most places. I know they get next to nothing in deep red states but that's not the norm.
Also garbage collection is probably hard on your back and not suitable to do for a whole career, and is probably pretty boring, though some people like a boring job
A brief search shows in the US the median salary for a teacher is at least 60k, while the median for garbage collector is around 40 to 50, they might make more than teachers in some places but that doesn't seem typical.
Don't they die earlier than average of painful cancers though?
And you get to hang off of the back of the truck like a bamf. That was the dream to 5yo me
The fact I know this is so real makes it so much stranger lmaooo ;-;
There is a humongous waiting list in pretty much all major cities for those positions
If you don't study, you will use "either" where "both" is supposed to be used.
I think that "both" would mean "earns more than their salaries combined", whereas "either" means "earns more than their salaries individually".
You are right, and I spent my time scrolling lemmy instead of studying.
This guy is a garbage picker xD
Derp
Never been around garbage collectors as an adult have you kid?
Edit: Ours used to kick around dead cats like footballs. Shat in bushes in front of families. Wild lads.
I was garbage collector for 3 years as student job.
Not a single person in the company has done such a thing. We did dumb shit all the time but that wasn't even close. I feel sorry that you decided that 1 person represents a whole industry
Ohh this was not one person, I was part of the team that ran groups of you. As I said OUR lads were wild.
