Donald Trump says America should “forget about” the separation of church and state

How about go fuck yourself.

As if the fucking Christian indoctrination wasn't already bad enough here.

No gods, no masters.

there's a lot going on in this article, but this part in particular is... uhh ... a really special form of religious virtue...

I'm all for the separation of Trump's head and body.

Donald Trump signed an executive order yesterday establishing a “religious liberty commission” at the Department of Justice (DOJ) to investigate and present strategies to eliminate “threats to domestic religious liberty.” During his comments on the order, Trump said that he doesn’t know if there’s a separation of church and state and that we should “forget about that for one time.”

Words alone simply fail to adequately describe my disgust and rage at this travesty.

All of this is spelled out in project 2025. If you want to know what's coming next, just look at their website.

They'll be all about "forgetting" about that separation, all the way up until someone opens Beezlebubs Intermediate School of the Damned - then they'll be up in arms again.

hope this project 2025 is as successful as his casinos

A common theme of MAGA is inventing problems that they can solve.

The idea that Christianity in the US is under threat and needs additional protections, is some epic persecution complex.

I cannot respect any "Christian" that voted for Trump. Least Christ like person on the planet, quite possibly.

I'd like to just forget about the church altogether

But you dont even follow the teachings of Christ?

The final form of conservative regimes always resorts to imposing religion and rigid moral codes in order to suffocate any form of dissent. Conservatives have been painting themselves as the "rebels" in their manufactured culture wars and the warriors of freeze peach, but in the end it always funnels back to this: Bible authoritarianism. They will use this argument for push for more censorship, information control, stripping away rights and oppressing every community they deem against their dogmas. The writing has been on the wall for a decade now.

I am hoping that America's new implementation of this "Christian state" proves to be grotesque enough to serve as a warning for the rest of the world that even had the fleeting thought of going down this route. And I while am not very hopeful for Americans, I wish they find the strength to resist and revolt against this movement.

Well okay, trump is an adulterer and we have clear instructions about what we need to do about that.

Oh lovely, a christian theocracy. How long before they start talking about having morality police?

Isn't separating church and state really important?

Yesterday I watched the documentary "Hail Statan?", about The Satanic Temple. Not a bombastic documentary but shows a bit what they are, what modern satanism is and what they do in the US. They do mostly require an intact legal system to fight christian overreach so maybe its over for their legal battles

The people who claim that America is a "Christian" nation don't ever read anything about the values the founders had. Most of them followed a deist philosophy.

This is a complete upheaval of the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment of the Constitution per Wikipedia's entry on Separation of church and state:

Jefferson and the Bill of Rights

In English, the exact term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes:

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.[6]

Jefferson was describing to the Baptists that the United States Bill of Rights prevents the establishment of a national church, and in so doing they did not have to fear government interference in their right to expressions of religious conscience. The Bill of Rights, adopted in 1791 as ten amendments to the Constitution of the United States, was one of the earliest political expressions against the political establishment of religion. Others were the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, also authored by Jefferson and adopted by Virginia in 1786; and the French Declaration of the Rights of the Man and of the Citizen of 1789.

The metaphor "a wall of separation between Church and State" used by Jefferson in the above quoted letter became a part of the First Amendment jurisprudence of the U.S. Supreme Court. It was first used by Chief Justice Morrison Waite in Reynolds v. United States (1878). American historian George Bancroft was consulted by Waite in the Reynolds case regarding the views on establishment by the framers of the U.S. constitution. Bancroft advised Waite to consult Jefferson. Waite then discovered the above quoted letter in a library after skimming through the index to Jefferson's collected works according to historian Don Drakeman.[30]

As an atheist that agrees more with Buddhism and Paganism than any organized religion this infuriating. I went to Catholic Church and school for 18 years of my life, I know what it's like to be "forced" to believe in something you don't.

Are they going to keep records of who goes to what churches and arrest people if they don't go to the correct church at the correct time and day?

I don't give a shit what anyone believes as long as they are not an asshole, that's their own business. I've had people try to shove their religion on me and it's not fun. If I had the financial means to leave this country I absolutely would now even if I was a Christian and went to church every Sunday.

This is REALLY freaking dangerous and scary on top of all the REALLY freaking dangerous and scary other bullshit Orange Man and his Disciples of Dumbasses have been doing since January 20th.

So I occasionally check the Fox News site just to see what the idiot commenters say because I find it sad yet entertaining...anyway for the article that was posted about htis issue several people were like "this is a good thing, because sepration of church and state isn't in teh constitution" like bruh have you read the constiutuion? It's literally stated in teh first amendment xD

Well then Allah be praised!

/S

Something I'm confused about: if Republicans believe government policy should be based on Christian values, why are they against government programs helping the poor?

Let's just forget about the right to bear arms

Lmao this dickhead who probably can't recite a single Bible verse.

What the ever loving fuck?!!!!

If your god loving right now punch your balls for me. You did this. And for what? I don't see me believing in your fucking Jesus anytime soon when you keep fucking around with my science. I much rather you not take advantage of any science so you can be pure to your stupid fucking retarded ways:

Drop this phone carefully so others can use it.
Cancel every single subscription.
No LEDs, LCDS, chips of any kind for you
No refrigeration for you.
No cars for you.
No glass for you.
No insulation for you.
No plastics or fuel for you... You may burn animals or wood.
So take off your clothes fucker, you're wearing animal skins wool or silk and you're paying for that shit.
No elevators for you, you asshole!
No metal parts of any kind, all those use science.
Prescription glasses? Not for you fucker. Taken off...
No aspirin or meds of any kind. Make some tea you asshole, maybe Jesus will heal you. Cement? Asphalt, nope, you're gonna go chop wood by hand using a piece of flint to cut it and you'll live happy because that's what Jesus did for a living.

No electricity or batteries, those things are based on science... No motors or lights, no compass or GPS. No.mosquito repellent or shark repellent or bear repellent or sun screen or bicycles or telescopes or microscopes. And here's your covid back asks Jesus if he wants you dead a little to the left or a little to the right.

I'm totally fine if you want all that for yourself.

Christian here.

Trump can fuck all the way off with that bullshit.

Maybe if they bring back the church into politics he will learn who this Jesus guy is who everyone is talking about. Might be surprised that he was a "radical leftist"

well he does also want to become pope. maybe he wants to multi class but what we really wish is if he dual classed.

It's really funny to me that all the "Christians" in government literally have none of the values Christ did. I'll bet if I asked them what their favorite Bible verse was they couldn't answer.

That's because Trump thinks that he is god

Trump needs a bunch of people willing to believe anything told to then and the religious crowd seems to have an endless appetite for rage inducing bullshit.

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

-President Trump, just this year.

"Our Country." Is just his White America/Klansmen base. We need that separation more than ever.

I'm gonna teach about how church molests everything it touches. I'm going to teach how religion uses "peace and love" as a rouse to get you to trust them, like a predator. I encourage the state to do this

It's incredible that the U.S. is having this discussion again. What's the point—bringing creationism back to schools or stoning prostitutes?

He should forget about 4 year terms. He can be removed at any time.

He doesn't give AF about religion he's no fucking moral centre. This is lip service to his base

This is not minecraft, so I do not advise the murder of Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

What the actual fuck.
There is this global retreat from rationality it seems.
Why do I need a church?

American Christians will martyr themselves for their silly beliefs. But not before murdering a bunch of people.

It's fascinating how the new world now desires to be just like the old.

I wonder who paid him to say that. Trump is just a muppet.

Of course he does. We are not allowed to talk about killing.

Country with a second amendment refuses to use it.

He REALLY wants to be pope

Like we should listen to this asshole.

Yeah, let's just ignore the First fucking Amendment and basically any freedom that actually matters. Go fuck yourself.

"Under His eye. "

.....but I'm Jewish....

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I will never forget.

Nah, first Amendment trump's Trump, regardless of his bullshit, he's a citizen. He can hold an opinion, just like that can be a dead fucking wrong opinion.

Donny, you’re out of your element.

Each separation of church and State? I was in the impression that the USA was a country that made people sweat on the bible to take a serment, that evocks God in its political speech and discours and even in its moto.

That comment is not sarcastic. I actually feel I miss something to understand the situation.

I wonder what murica will be called in a few years when it ceases to exist?

Maybe after religion has been abolished.

I wonder if any of the dumbasses that are still supporting donvict yet understand what this would mean?

Log Cabin twats like Peter Thiel? These motherfuckers will come for YOU eventually, Einstein. Same for the likes of Tammy Bruce - an openly gay lesbian won't be in a position of leadership, what kind of gawdly message is that going to send? The Libertarian dumbfuck techbros still underwriting this shit, that are also hard atheist? You too, motherfuckers! Fast talking fools like Ben Shapiro and Stephen Miller? You guys are Jewish! Are you kidding?

The loudmouth uppity women like Beetlebert and Marjorie Trailer Queen and Kristi "dog murderer" Noem and Karoline Leavitt? You too - the Babble bangers won't be having YOU ruling over men, what are you even thinking? Best you can hope for is marrying some powerful man that keeps a roof over your head while he bangs some younger handmaidens to raise a crop of kids with his superior genes.

but someone think of the jobs lost in the comedy industry! it is not fair to take away all their jobs. i thought maga would help pick cotton, but no...