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Unpopular opinion - I like the look & the idea of the Cybertruck. I think it’s a cool looking vehicle. I like the design and the concept of an edgy light-duty electric pickup truck.
I’d never buy one - they’re too expensive, have way too many issues, and Musk is a fucking chode. But I take issue with people who call it “ugly.”
Personally, I think most “traditional” pickup trucks are ugly. The F150, Ram, Silverado? Those are at the very best - boring. They’re definitely not attractive. At least the Cybertruck is a fresh concept for a pickup.
I recently bought a Hyundai Ioniq 5. It shares a couple design elements of the Cybertruck- simple polygons, angular, sharp edges. Obviously not nearly as extreme, but if a more reliable & less shithead-led company released a wildly / surreally designed vehicle similar to the Cybertruck, I’d consider it.
The cybertruck design is dangerous.
The sharp edges with raw steel can cut someone.
Someone did already get cut badly on their cybertruck
They roll the edges of steel for a reason, it makes it safer
Granted. Rack that up to “too many issues” as I said. The Cybertruck can still have the clean (less rounded) edges without being sharp enough to cause harm. There are other cars with “angular” designs which don’t cause bodily harm.
Don't know how accurate it is as I don't own cybertruck and don't know much about how it is built, but I heard that it has an aluminum frame, and since aluminum and steel can't touch (as the joint would degrade without stone special treatment) they went with cheaper solution and used plastic joints to connect them.
Is that true?
Not sure how the cybertruck is put together, but rubber/poly vibration isolators is pretty standard for every body-over-frame truck I've seen.
If you typed out the description of the Cybertruck, I'd like it. A DeLorean crossed with an Chevrolet El? EV? Stainless Steel(Although aluminum body would be better for weight)? Sign me up.
Problem is, that's not what it looks like. It looks like a low poly render of a boring suv. And like an suv, you can't really do truck things with it. Say what you want about the appearance of a truck(and I don't like the appearance of modern pickups), you can tow with them and have plenty of storage space in the bed. Well, ymmv on "plenty", but it's still more then a cybertruck. If you don't need space or towing, just get a suv. I'd say station wagon, but they don't make those anymore.
A vehicle should exist for utility before it exists for style.
The SUV is really just a mini van. Mini vans got a bad rep, which I think is a shame because I LOVED my Honda Odyssey. It drives like a car, and has a 3rd row that you can actually sit adults in. Also, with all the seats down, and middle seats removed, you could carry a LOT. We fit two full sofas from Ikea back there. It was a tight fit, but it worked great.
For whatever reason people don't like the idea of mini vans, so they made the suv because TRUCK. We replaced the Odyssey with a Subaru Ascent, and that is great too, it has all wheel driving, and a lot more bells and whistles than the old Odyssey. The 3rd row is not nice to sit in as an adult though, and I miss the sliding doors, those were great in tight spaces.
They just need to put more sliding doors on these vehicles they expect people to get in and out of the back seats.
SUVs are minivans for people too insecure to admit that they need a minivan.
So much of the car buying community is just letting yourself get up sold by images of a family of 5, cruising the open road, probably Alaska or Wyoming, quickly swerving out of the way of falling boulders or smoothly going over potholes, when they're ninety nine percent of the time, they'll be stuck in traffic and driving the same hand full of miles.
Most "SUVs" are lies -- misnamed glorified station wagons. What an SUV is supposed to be is a vehicle that can ford streams and crawl over rocks. I own an old Toyota 4Runner and a Kia Sedona. The Sedona is absolutely the better car for most uses (especially hauling stuff), but it absolutely cannot do the things I use the 4Runner for.
Please don't besmirch the beautiful station wagon :(
They're way more functional and pedestrian-safe than SUVs.
But I take issue with people who call it “ugly.”
It's not ugly. It's hideous. It's a 6 year old child's drawing turned into an actual vehicle.
At least the Cybertruck is a fresh concept for a pickup.
Cybertrucks are a fresh concept for a pickup like this is a fresh concept for a family car.
I dunno man, the homer had class and character... the cyberschmuck has neither
Back when it was first revealed in 2019 Musk hadn't yet morphed into his final chud form and the thing was to be priced at $39k. I thought it looked cool and the price was right, I honestly would have considered buying one given the federal subsidies.
Here we are, 5 years later and Musk is yet another of Putin's puppets actively helping Trump and the online legions of morons destroy the country and the Cybertruck is now $80k with no upgrades, $100k with.
I was never in love with it, but at this point buying it is a lot like buying a red MAGA hat. It pegs you as a particular type of dumbass, particularly given its reputation for terrible quality control. The kind of dumbass that spends six figures to trigger the libs.
He announced this after he tried to insert himself into the Thai cave rescue and called the guy actually doing something "a pedo guy".
Also, since Elon Musk won the ensuing defamation case, you can now legally call Elon "Pedo Guy" and he can't stop you
I like the look & the idea of the Cybertruck.
I do like the idea of shaking up established notions when it comes to aesthetics, design, and functionality. The Cybertruck really is a concept car that actually made it to production - you just don't see that.
That said, I greatly dislike everything else that has come from this. It's become this weird divisive thing, a political statement, a rolling monument to billionaire hubris, an expensive flex, and in general, saying things loudly at great expense to the owner on so many fronts. It doesn't even do its stated purpose - a pickup truck - all that well. All we need are statistics that indicate that these are dangerous to everyone else on the road, and it'll tick just about every "bad" box there is.
It reminds me of when the Hummer first came out, and all you saw was rich people like Arnold driving them around.
Years ago, some rich kid got one for his birthday. Instantly sunk it in a swamp thinking it could go anywhere.
Personally, I think most “traditional” pickup trucks are ugly. The F150, Ram, Silverado? Those are at the very best - boring. They’re definitely not attractive. At least the Cybertruck is a fresh concept for a pickup.
I know they're inherently not very safe, but I've always wanted a stylish/futuristic cabover pickup, like the Dodge Deora concept:
I love it. Reminds of the Ford Nucleon concept with a fixed wheel base.
Thunderbirds are go!
Which...way is the front? I mean does it have a really long deck, or is the hood really long?
It's a cabover, so it's like an actual European lorry, just smooshed down. So really long deck, and the front is very close to the driver.
Thanks. There is no doors? Does the driver have to Dukes of Hazzard it to get in?
The single door is in the front, you can see the edge around the windshield. If anything, it's easier to get into this as there is more space in front of you.
Also, you can park closer to others as you don't need side clearance to open the door.
I thought they looked cool when first announced but two things changed since then: I saw them from more than just the best angles (look dumb AF from most angles) and also musk showed everyone he's a shitrat. Both are good reasons to hate these garbage vehicles
Well, unpopular it is. I saw once a picture of two Cybertrucks in a desert and the first thing that came to mind was an 80s low budget sci fi movie scene.
"Top men" in charge of bad sci-fi movies made this observation long before the rest of us. We're in good company.
Is that Big McLargehuge?!
I LOVE 80s low budget sci fi movies!
Nissan should make an electric Titan that looks like the old Alpha-T concept. That thing looked so awesome.
I don't follow trucks, so this was the first I heard of the Alpha-T. Would definetly take that over the Cybertruck.
Here it is for anyone else not familiar. It may have been a bit much for 2001, but in the 2010s with the Total Recall and Blade Runner remakes, this would've fit in great!
I'm following the development of Edison Motors, which will offer Diesel/EV hybrid kits for pickups and semitrucks. An unadvertised aspect of this is that because they'll also have too offer repair parts, you'll be able to make a pure EV pickup truck as well. This will also have the added benefit of not having any spyware installed.
I have an old square body truck on the farm that I would love to convert to EV.
man I just want to convert my element. give me 120 mile range and I'm good, I only use it for hauling wood and moving shit around anyway.
I vaguely remember a time when it felt like all these small companies were supposedly working in vehicle conversion kits and I was excited about all the cars that could get saved and brought into the next century, but I feel they were all vaporware since I've never heard of one actually existing in real life.
It was one of the few moments where I actually felt close to being alive in the future that was promised to me as a child. Maybe someday...
A lot of those old ones were selling kits that used overbuilt golf cart motors. They worked, but were underwhelming. As EVs became more mainstream, people started pulling EV drive trains from wreaks and either DIYing it or hiring an independent shop to do it.
Edison has done real world, on road testing of their semitruck drive train with a loaded(and maybe overloaded) haul of logs. The family that owns Edison Motors also owns a logging company, so they're interesting is using what they're making. They're also shipping the first full size pickup truck kits to their partners for testing.
They also teased a smaller drive axle that would work with smaller trucks or jeeps.
That sounds promising about Edison's background. It sounds like they have both personal interest in getting the projects to be successful, and also real world experience with the types of industry things they're looking to improve. I'll have to check them out.
The profile of the production gen 1 titan is very similar, but the body kit they had on the alpha t was just so sweet.
The article I looked at had a few side by side images, and while it does share a decently similar silhouette, the feeling I'd get seeing those 2 vehicles on the lot or the street would be so different between the pair. I get that underneath it's likely the same exact truck, but I'd see different types of people wanting one or the other and I wouldn't expect both to be coming from the same manufacturer.
Again, I'm not a truck person, but while I like those last generation of trucks before pickups had to go all aggro, the production model is dated now while the concept looks like they could successfully unveil it this year. It looks bold, but in a sci fi way moreso than in a Texas truck bro kind of way. Like someone could be hauling a suit of Fallout power armor in the back of it or be conducting some post apocalyptic research in the wasteland to save humanity.
Totally agree with everything you’re saying. The gen 1 titan was like the least aggressive looking of basically all the pickups around its time. Sadly the gen 2’s ended up just looking like the same ol same ol modern pickup truck with a massive square hood. That said, the gen 1’s are notoriously difficult to work on because of its stubby nose. You should see the hassle I went through trying to get to the fuse box in mine. It’s like…behind the back of the hood practically under the windshield. But I love its massive front dashboard and bubble look. Reminds me a bit of the old previas.
Ah, that G2 Titan is what I remember when I think of that model.
I do like the snub nosed look, that era truck just makes me think of Hank Hill, but I can imagine it could get tight under there, especially compared to other trucks going bigger and more boxy.
I forgot about Previa too! It's got a dated look now in that way that they said things would look in the year 2000 back in the 50s, but I honestly still kinda dig it in a retro-futuristic way. I think they could pull off a Previa reboot today if they wanted.
If it was a little tiny electric car like a Nissan Leaf that was 'edgy' and didn't have Elon as CEO I could totally see myself getting one.
It still looks cool, just costs too much, doesn't deliver, and has Elon at the controls. Cringey, but cool.Have a look at the Nismo Leaf, its only a set of wheels and lowering springs off being cool.
I could have written this comment word for word. Extra on point because I'm actively ambiviating on getting an Ioniq 5 or a rivian.
Neat concept, but even from design and then seeing them now in the real world: cybetrucks looked to me like a car that a ragtag bunch of undergrad engineers made from welding a bunch of metal panels together.
The go-cart my high school metalworking class built looks better then that piece of shit.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What is ugly to others, may be beautiful to you.
I've been told that I love ugly cars. Like the Pontiac Aztec, the Subaru Baja, and the Honda element. You'll find people either love or hate them, but I commonly love the cars that most people find polarizing. And the cyber truck is indeed one of the polarizing cars that I like too.
I had to look up those three cars and they're all pretty basic. They shouldn't be polarizing at all. If you want something out there and modern, the Aptera's shape is purely dictated by aerodynamics.
Looks like a Velorex on steroids, love it.
I have a preorder in haha, and I really want them to succeed. I love their aerodynamic purpose, and I don't think it looks half bad, but people cringe when I show them.
I don't care if it's a lil ugly, I care that it can go about 2-3x as far as a standard EV sedan on the same amount of batteries before factoring in 20-40 free miles a day from the freakin sun.
Based on your message, the reason why you love them is because so many people hate them aka polarizing. This is real-world edge lord crap. If you truly loved em, you’d say why you love them that goes beyond just being the opposite of the majority for the sake of it.
For me, it's honestly not because they are polarizing. Id say I often enjoy the function over the form. My comment was mostly the main point, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
For the Aztec, I liked the flattened/angled back, when everything else was becoming more rounded. I also liked the early Prius design for the same reason.
For the Baja, a light AWD car with an itty bitty truck bed for muddy/dirty crap was cool.
For the element, its a box on wheels, the doors open opposite and they open wide, making them really convenient for packing a lot of things or people in them really quickly. Vans are nice for the same reason, but the element to me was just more aesthetically pleasing than a van.
And for the cyber truck, I honestly love the idea of an electric off road vehicle with ugly ass stainless steel panels for the body. Hit a rock or a tree? Oh well, carve that panel off and tack weld a replacement to it. Paint? Why?
That being said, the criticism of the result of the cyber truck, I fully agree with. It delivered on none of the promises of ruggedness or capability. It was a flop. And Elon is a fuckwad.
The Ioniq 5 gives me Lancia Delta vibes, which is a very good thing.
I feel ya! But... everything else you said, yeah. If I were given one, I'd drive it around for a couple of months and sell it.
Wow, that is an unpopular opinion!