LOL, I was just permantly banned from /r/metalmemes for referring to transphobes as "cunts".

On behalf of the metal community, everyone is welcome. Fuck transphobia. Pick all your brothers, sisters, and non-binary family off the ground and lift them up.

I'm curious, how do you feel about the hateful side of metal? There's a lot, or was a lot, of neo-nazis in the 'metal' community back in the day.
I'm wondering how the community has evolved and if there is any kind of differentiation between the neo-nazis and everyone else.
- Pretty sure the response is quite simply to tell them to fuck off, atleast in my experience. But im also into a rather niche metal sub community that you have to be careful in cause it has like two side, nazis and antifascists who want to hang nazis.

Sounds pretty cunty of em.

- Can mods act upon this comment here?

I got a 6 day ban from reddit for telling a mod in r/funny that it's not right to judge a person for posting a meme in a different sub. Which is what convinced me to make an account on Lemmy

I'm not saying it warranted a ban, but if someone is posting transphobic memes in another sub, they should be judged for that.
- Yeah but that's different. That's hate
I got a 6 day ban for say Nazis should be punched. I'm sorry, but it was also in the context of when they ran over that girl with the car at the rally.
- Doesn’t matter the context, imo, nazis always deserve to be punched.

That subreddit sucks. They banned Sabaton for being “Nazis”. I don’t think they’ve ever listened to Sabaton.

Sabaton do have a lot of Nazi fans, but we shouldn't yield ground to them
what? like literally what?
- Even in the "official" (i.e. in Scene-Relevant Magazines) scene in Germany they're regarded as fascist aligned, just because of their military theme. Yeah, idk man, idk...
That subreddit sucks.
Replying just to echo this sentiment.
LOL, what a braindead move

the problem is that you were visiting a space that begins with /r/.

...And you're on an instance called "aussie zone". Isn't cunt practically a term of endearment down there?

It can go either way. I mostly use it on inanimate objects that have injured me.
- So, essentially, "cunt" can refer to anything, good or bad, in Australia.
- Ah yes, an aussie in their natural dialect that only their friends and family speak.
It's as brotherly as throwing some shrimps on the barby!
- That's a weird way to spell prawns.

I was banned from r/politics for "hate speech" for comparing Krysten Sinema to Delores Umbridge from Harry Potter. The totally arbitrary enforcement of the rules by authoritarian mods is a large part of the reason I made the migration to Lemmy after more than 14 years on Reddit. I was a refuge from the Digg migration, and am now a refuge from Reddit bullshit and proud of it!

Well, no wonder! That's an insult to Delores Umbridge!
A lot of mods thought they had a power downvote - the way reddit works where it hides your removed comment from everyone but you with zero notification (like a per-comment shadowban) is pretty annoying. I'd post in some subs and check with one of the comment deletion tools, and sure enough, that would explain why I'd get no replies or votes. Sure is annoying to take the time to express yourself and talk top people, and some twat of a mod arbitrarily or mendaciously decides your comment is not allowed and removes it.
Mine was for saying that I want Donald Trump to lose all his cases in the courts, and I can't be assed to care about whether he lives long enough to serve the sentences he receives, as that's not the point. This was in response to someone else saying taking him through the court system is pointless, because he won't live long enough to pay for those crimes.
They cited a rule against inviting violence and showing an aggressive apathy for human life, and gave me a permenant ban.
I can certainly see the backwards, twisted logic used to justify the argument, if you're willing to completely disregard the context and clearly defined goal of the statement. Even if your head is up your ass about the rule as written and see my statement as far more aggressive than I tried to portray it, you'd think a decent mod would respond to a polite appeal with "your comment is deleted, think about the way you word yourself in the future", and the ban being revoked. But I suspect there's something else going on there, so I decided it's really no loss anyway.
- The censorship on /r/politics is insane.
  After witnessing it firsthand, I can't go there anymore because of how secretly-curated it is.
  I'm super glad lemmy has a public modlog so I can see everything for myself, even if it was taken down.
- No no, that's Alanis Morissette.

I got a ban once for calling someone a good cunt in a supposedly Australian run sub because someone else got offended by it for some reason.

It is an actual term of endearment in Australia.

LOL

https://imgur.com/a/qVjtxbv

Everyone's the same in the pit.

...indeed. And that's why at least in my time punk and metal got along well.

Strange, I'm perfectly able to enjoy metal without resorting to misogynistic slurs, but maybe I'm the odd one out here.

That stigma is really only a US thing. British people say it left and right all the time
- You're damn right. If I found out that any cunt around here has been using misogynistic slurs, I'm going to let them know what I think of them.
- Stigma isn't even the word. You wouldn't say there's a stigma associated with using ethnic slurs, or homophobic slurs, so why should misogyny get a pass?
True, the only problematic thing about this is the exact slur they used. You can perfectly state that they are a-holes, dimwits etc. but some slurs are so minority focused I get why you shouldn't use them. And yet, a perma ban for that? Bit hard, bro.
- 'Cunt' isn't minority focused though

Metal memes is a shit tier sub anyway, you ain't missing nothing.

What are the alternatives? I'll happily subscribe. Reddit is dying a slow death, and I haven't found a new place to get metal suggestions or news
- I mean if you want news and suggestions I don't think metal memes was the right sub in the first place. I haven't looked in a couple weeks but Lemmy's got some metal communities. Idk how active they are because I listen to power metal and there wansnt a power metal community when I looked. So I guess look for a general metal community (there's one on Lemmy.world) and from there communities more specific to your genre tastes. There's also a metal memes community on Lemmy.world if you want the memes.

But, I don't understand. That's the scientific definition, how can they be angry about that?

It's somehow normal to call anyone a -phobe or an -ist for pretty much any reason, or just by an unrelated assumption. You can't be surprised if some people don't appreciate it.

I wasn't addressing an individual, see screenshot.
Don’t want to be called an -ist or a -phobe, maybe don’t act like one? I don’t get called either, but I don’t act like either.
You see how that works?
- Lucky, but no that's not always how it works. I will not elaborate here further.

Please ban me too, I agree that they're cunts.

1- why are you still on Reddit? 2- I kind of agree with them. You can be metal without being an ass.

- A curse word toward an inanimate object or an animal I’m okay with. A curse word against a group, and a curse word related to said group I’m not okay with. That curse word may have one meaning in your social group, but this is an international community and we need to be acknowledging that certain things may be interpreted differently by others.
You aren't an ass because you aren't tolerant towards intolerant people.
- One you can be an ass without being misogynistic, but you can’t be misogynistic without being an ass.
- You're not fighting intolerance by using a misogynistic slur.

Cunt seems to be one of their no no words over there. I’ve cursed up and down all over the place, but the moment I call someone a cunt I get banned from the sub I’m on.

It's a pretty fun word to yell. Kinda like fuck. Shit. removed (mods apparently won't let you say betch. Also TIL they can change what you wrote, as if that isn't censorship). Damn. Pretty much all of the one syllable curse words can be screamed at maximum volume, which I really enjoy
Now I feel bad for the Aussies…

More fragile than based.
- Way too brittle to be metal. Should be called r/glassmemes.
How often do you wear a fedora?

I mean, have you seen how easy it is to get transphobes banned?

All they have to do is say trans people aren't the gender they say and it's an immediate ban. That's kind of egregious to me and not conducive to discussion.

Meanwhile you can call someone a 'stupid piece of a shit' and it's acceptable if they don't believe trans people are another gender.

Edit: Thank you for deleting the hateful and insulting comment calling someone a stupid piece of shit. I was wrong :)

if someone vomits racist garbage in a group, I'd expect them to be banned, or else it's not the kind of group I want to be in. same if someone is a homophobe, or any other kind of bigotry.
also lol at "discussion" human beings shouldn't have to "debate" people on their right to exist "explain how human rights will help my stock portfolio, check mate liberal"
- I think you continue to exist regardless of what other people think.
  It's when they put those thoughts into action that they should be stopped.
  I feel like people are allowed to think what they want and say what they want. If I don't like it, I just block them and move on.
As a trans person, is there a point at which I no longer have to try to conduct discussion about my right to exist?
- Who is stopping you from existing?

Ah yes, reddit going the twitter route.

What a poser move of them.

The C word is for shouting at traffic, with your windows roiled up. It's not for using on public forums, or really anywhere else.
Grow up, op.

Lol. Don't come to Australia! We dole that shit out like Oprah! "You're a cunt, and you're a cunt, and you're a cunt. Everybody's a cunt!"
- Australia also doesn't mean what the rest of the world means when using that word. :D

C U Next Tuesday

That's not very metal of them

Ive always thought of memes as 1 panel comic strips. Id assume that people that need their information cut up into toddler size pieces and spoonfed may have trouble tying their shoes. I avoid any meme related stuff for this reason. Seems the quality of discourse is similar to the quality of content.

Jesse, what the hell are you talking about?

Their loss.