What's your dream job?

To be fair, the tankie in this situation said they are bashing because no one wants to plow fields. You can't serve latte's if no one is doing the hard work of growing and transporting the coffee.
How about working the oil rig to supply the petroleum needed to ship coffee from South America? You'll probably lose a finger or two. Any unpaid volunteers?
I want to do something productive for society.
Tarot
Yeah

As a side note: blows my mind there are people over the age of 9 that persist in actually believing in tarot cards or astrology.

So independent of any woo-woo, tarot cards are designed to be a potent conceptual microcosm. That means that when you shuffle the cards and do a reading, with a decent understanding of what each of the cards represents, you essentially make a little randomly generated conceptual perspective through which to view the problem. Extremely helpful for shaking out of an established mindset, finding an unexpected angle which reveals connections you hadn't considered.
I can't really speak to astrology, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be approximately accurate for some reason other than the stars themselves. Perhaps the changing temperatures of the seasons have a slightly noticeable effect on natal development.
- Astrology is only accurate in that everything it says is vague and easily interpretable in multiple ways.
  A teacher did an experiment where he handed his class custom astrology reports based on their birthdate, and asked them to rate how well they fit each of them. Everyone gave it a high rating, and said it was very accurate. He had them pass the paper to a different student, and everyone laughed because everyone got the exact same astrology report.
- I had some friends do astrology readings for themselves that depended on the exact time they were born. I asked one of them about how they accounted for time zones and DST. (They didn't.) I may have gotten my point across.
- You just made an excellent argument for why tarot is inefficient given its random nature. There are healthier more logical approaches to expanding your perspectives.
  Anything more and it’s less about shaking out of an established mindset and more just wanting to play pretend
- I've seen it. Tarot is like amateur therapy, with props. It's a whooole lot of talking back and forth, with some cards to comment on.
  Yeah some people take it way too seriously, but most people just enjoy it for what it is. Like I've got a lucky rock that I feel off without, but I know it's just a fetish.
- But just in comparison
I use tarot and other divination methods (primarily the I-Ching/Book of Changes). It’s less about trying to get magical communication from some sort of magical realm or helper for me, it is more a way to organize my thoughts. Often times, the advice associated with each card is just generic good advice, and it prompts me to consider situations from other perspectives. I take some time to think about a problem facing me and use the cards as creative prompts for ways to solve that problem. No supernatural stuff involved.
Horoscopes are mostly just (hopefully!) good advice packaged in what can only be described as a crime against astronomy. They’re good to read, because they tell you what people want to be thinking about themselves.
- The way that I think about these things is that it's like flipping a coin to make a decision. It doesn't really matter what the coin says, but if you feel happy or disappointed in the result, that tells you what you really need to know. Tarot's like that but with a bit more depth. The value from the reading is that it encourages introspection.
- How often are you really using a goddamn elaborate version of a coin flip to make your decisions?
  Tarot helps you gain perspectives by randomization and chance? Sounds like a horribly illogical system. You’re actively hindering yourself just for the sake of shoehorning tarot into your decision making process lmao
  Similarly if you need to read horoscopes to learn what people want to think about themselves, you have bigger problems. It’s simply not true and indefensible. Who is defined by “people” here, as if it’s a true blanket statement on all born in that month or just at all. Fucking bullshit, why force this mindless drivel into your life at all.
  Everything you mention can be gained more efficiently, meaningfully and accurately (no RNG needed) via other means. Just admit you’d rather play around
- Yeah, that's how I use it too. Like sometimes, I feel like the cards are calling me out, but it's actually just me calling myself out.
  It reminds me of how I give great advice to my friends that I may not always follow myself. Tarot feels like a way of getting distance between me, the advice giver, and me, the dumbass who desperately needs to follow the advice
nah there is definitely reason for both.
- Disclaimer: I don't believe in astrology. However, I always have this discussion with my students when we talk about pseudoscience and superstition (and this is likely an unpopular opinion here), but astrology can't be entirely dismissed out of hand . Astrology doesn't have much of a basis in reality, but there is some credibility and research to support the idea that some aspects of your personality can be shaped or impacted by the month in which a person is born, especially in rural/agrarian communities or areas with harsh climates.
  It's not the stars themselves and it's not like your day-to-day life is affected by the current star sign or "mercury in retrograde," but think about how formative experiences and your earliest memories can be influenced by the time of year. A child in the Dakotas in the 1800's that has their first memory as a 2yo in February while the family is on the verge of starvation is going to have a very different experience than a child in the same time and geographical area that is born 6 months later whose first memory is of a harvest festival. Not to mention they are going to have very different nutrition and growth patterns, etc.
  It's purely anecdotal, but I've seen this occur to a small extent in my personal life. My oldest was born in January, and he learned to walk in the dead of winter in a snowy environment (so, inside at home), but my middlest was born in April and learned to walk at parks and baseball fields. Does that mean their long-term personality traits are based around that? Not necessarily, but it's certainly plausible and early scientific research does support there being some correlation between season of birth and personality (Source 1, Source 2)
You seem to assume that half the indian subcontinental populace doesn't exist.
People will marry off their kids to donkeys, frogs and cows if it means no drought for a season.
Astrology runs rabid there.
Source: Am Indian.
Tarot cards are a tool to be used in reflection and insight. When reading for other people, they mostly provide a talking point and help make connections.
What they are not is a magic oracle that can predict the future. It's up to the reader to interpret their meaning and consider how it may apply.
Astrology, yeah. I have no idea. It's not my thing.

She sounds like a magical thinking, deluded child.

Lol we found the cop

Not All Cops Beat Dirty Hippies Without Reason
- A broken clock is correct twice a day. Sometimes even a calculator can be a clock.
But it's the cop of the socialist system. That's good!

Larpers hate it when you ask them to join the shit brigade/bathroom cleaning.

fight tankies, I guess.

Where is the line here? Art, music or writing fiction? Anything that isn't needed to keep 20 people alive? Or are we talking a society that is more than just surviving? Want to keep people tired and dirty, that's a good way make them shut up and submit I guess. I'm making my own commune, with black jack and hookers.

Entertainment can be labor. If someone is explicit and consistent about a tarot reading being just a game of make-believe then I suppose it's fine, but I doubt most people who would do tarot readings professionally would be about to pull it off with at least winking at their audience.
- Entertainment (and the arts) would probably not have a large central component. I imagine many more people would engage with arts than today thanks to shorter work weeks. Set building and performances and the like would probably occur on a more local level.
That's the beauty of communes. It's up to the group to define what's acceptable.
- that sounds like a government but without the extra steps. i'm in
How does the community decide who gets to make art and how has to work making food and other tasks necessary for survival?

I think I'd like to design the dodgy ad-hoc series of aqueducts that bring water from the nearby river to the commune. It will be like a daily task of building Rube Goldberg machines.

The Political Officer has conscripted you... to also make Rube Goldberg machines that smack Astrolgers and Psychics upside the head. Not a bad gig!
So you'll be the Bloody Stupid Johnson?
Is it made from bamboo?
- If there is bamboo around it will be used. I'm also envisioning a donkey on a treadmill which lifts buckets attached to a rope.

Guess who's going to find out leftist societies still have prisons for pieces of shit that are intolerant of others?!

That sounds awfully intolerant. Ha. Gotcha.
Now I play the card pot of greed which allows me to draw 3 additional cards from my deck.
- You should learn what the Paradox of Tolerance means. If you're tolerant of the intolerant, you're fucking it up.
  Stop fucking it up.

My dream job is that post I noticed the other day about "white guy doormen in Japan who greet women with hello princess!"

Either that or the "Loud American" position also in Japan that tells the boss they're doing something stupid. I seem to have recently developed a thing for Japan apparently lol

Either that or the "Loud American" position also in Japan that tells the boss they're doing something stupid.
Sorry bud, but this one might not be real.
- I mean, it's probably not an actual job. It's just that "Westerners" are treated differently. So they are allowed to politely say "that doesn't make any sense" in Japanese society.
  You would have to have a real job at the company and you may not become a manager.
- I think it is. It's the same function as court jester.

Reading tarot cards IS labor.

And beating up people is labor too. Our utopia grows ever closer.
- Beating up people who call tarot reading labor is a societal good, no two ways about it.
Listening to people talk esoteric bs is labor.
"It's your fault it does not work, you don't believe! You are not in the know!"
- Kinda true though. The world you witness is filtered through your subconscious to turn raw data into concepts your conscious mind can deal with: book, car, chair, dog, etc. That's why optical illusions work, your mind gets used to interpreting the raw data a certain way, and that can be cleverly exploited to make your conscious mind see things that weren't in the raw data. "Belief" is just loading up a new subroutine to your subconscious to filter for something you value. But if you don't really convince yourself, it won't stick. You can't just ask your subconscious nicely to do things, it's to "dumb" for that. You have to imprint with rituals and such to strengthen associations.
Knock Knock
Political officer is outside!
Hey, you want to read tarot cards after helping plow the fields in the commune, go for it.

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ascended dr. jade phd😇, @_jad...

whats your job on the leftist commune??

im gonna be leading discussion on theory some days, making clothes from scraps other days, and making lattes whenever needed.

Amtrak-Bidenism🚂🧭* @man_di...
political officer that beats the shit out of all the people who think reading tarot cards is labor

Good human! A Political Officer will not be visiting you anytime soon
We got real alive Ai helping the blind and visually impared
- And that AI is not perfect and not avaliable to everyone

It's pretty clear to me that it's attempting to destroy the misconception that some newer leftists have about Socialism and Communism, who have just learned about it and think it sounds great, but haven't actually dug into the structures and realised that while a lot of it is indeed great, it also takes a lot of work still.
Would it be tankie to bash whoever thinks reading tarot is labor, peacefully? Absolutely, but I think it's more tongue-in-cheek, and I actually think the original person the joke is replying to is also being tongue-in-cheek, to an extent.
At least, that's my non-tankie interpretation. Dirty jobs would absolutely exist, and while it would be likely that this work would be split amongst the broader workforce, the idea that people can get by without actually contributing what they legitimately can is Utopianism.
Did I read too far into this, for what very well could be a tankie being an absolute piece of shit for no reason? Yes, but I hope I'm right and both are decent people making sarcastic fun.
- I Don't think it's even that deep. For them, it's not a political philosophy or any kind of real philosophy. It's just a personality trait. Or LARPing.

I make excellent bread, but in order to receive it you have to go through a documentation vetting and once you're in line you're not allowed to step out or Amtrak-Bidenism will beat you.

Sounds like a poopy commune
- Was my joke too soon?