Rule of being a free speech absolutist
Rule of being a free speech absolutist
Rule of being a free speech absolutist
I would be very interested in a plot graph mapping out the number of instances of transphobic rhetoric coming from Elon from before and after Grimes left him for Chelsea Manning.
Or his trans daughter changing her last name and basically telling him to go to hell.
I can't imagine what he did for that to happen. I've seen similar stories of kids disownning their billionare parents in countries where spousal abuse, demostic violenc, violence against kids and pologomy are allowed. but I never thought US laws allow you to be that shitty.
IIRC he actually did twat some vaguely transphobic things soon after that.
Mr. "Free speech absolutist" over here. LMFAO
He is absolutely free to say whatever nonsense he wants. Isn't that what free speech means? /s
Is this how a right-wing, white man comes out?
Maybe he comes out as waste of human skin.
I think he just is one
Right, don't kill me for asking, but what's wrong with libertarianism? Or who are the libertarian morons? Honest question.
It sounds absolutely great in theory, but in practice it could never work.
Say I want to build a house: As a society, we've come up with mandatory building codes that tell me how to build a house that's going to be safe for everyone.
Suppose we got rid of this regulation for libertarianism's sake.
Most people would still build to code because that's just the smart thing to do but a small proportion of people would build it the cheapest way possible because it is now their god-given right to do so.
When that house inevitably fails at the worst possible time, I don't care too much about what happens to the guy himself. He understood the risk and did it anyways. But in a worst case scenario, he could've been hosting a kids party that day or something.
Now apply this analogy to.. Basically any regulation you'd want to get rid of.
It's kind of always a balancing act between stopping people from killing each other from sheer stupidity, and letting them do and say whatever the fuck they want when they're between their own four walls, and pure libertarianism doesn't allow for that.
Have a look at the reading list for right libertarians at "The Political Compass" https://www.politicalcompass.org/libRightBooks and you will be be to come to your own view. You might want to take the Political Compass test.
I found this article on what happened when a town became a Libertarian experiment interesting - https://newrepublic.com/article/159662/libertarian-walks-into-bear-book-review-free-town-project
Libertarianism upholds whatever the current power structure is and offers no redress for those with less power. Free market libertarianism is just unchecked capitalism.
We need to come up with a slur for billionaires...
Billionaire is already a slur.
No one makes that much money without screwing over and abusing other people. There are no ethical billionaires.
I just call them oligarchs, which already has a negative connotation
And also is completely accurate. Mainstream media, mainstream politicians and others who are members of the big club want you to think that only Eastern Europe and parts of Asia (not the parts they have lucrative business with) are mostly controlled by a few rich people.
The reality is that the US has more than a third of the world's billionaires in spite of having only 5% of the population and those billionaires and the rest of the. 1% ABSOLUTELY are oligarchs that control the country much more than any elected officials.
Parasites?
Leeches, vampires, parasites, oligarchs, scourges of the Earth, pure evil...
There is one and you just used it
"rich fuckface"
In my country (Spain) there is an organization called "Centre for Sociological Research", which in Spanish it's called "Centro de Investigaciones Sociológicas" (best known as CIS).
So, is that name also a slur, according to the free speech absolutist? What about politicians and journalists who talk about its surveys?
Elon is too busy being angry at trans people to see all this nuance you’re just throwing out there. You think he has time to consider what people are saying or that other people have thoughts and feelings?
Silencing the speech of a bunch of sociologists is probably a bonus for him
I will never understand how the word cis or cisgender is a slur. If your a cisgender then you are literally a cisgender. I am a cisgender male, plane and simple
They consider themselves the "default" aka the only ones who are not "the others" and thus not wrong about everything up to and including existing.
They are also snowflakes who can't cope with their bigoted worldview being questioned in any way without playing the innocent martyr, so anything that implies that their perspective isn't the only legitimate one is considered viciously evil.
Cimple as
“Would you pass me the oar, cisgender Jim?”
This made me lol. Thank you for my first morning laugh.
I take pride in Elon Musk thinking my existence is a slur.
Damn cisgenders, cissing around this damn thread. One tried to cis me out of my gender.
Reported for extreme prejudice /s
It's okay for me to call myself cisgender, because I've reclaimed the slur
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It's a good thing free speech is legal on Twitter, huh, Elon?
sweet, now I have a slur for my dad when he calls me a faggot
Highly recommend checking the full article too, it's fantastic!
https://hard-drive.net/hd/video-games/huge-news-for-gamers-elon-musk-has-invented-a-new-slur/
Oh my god that’s amazing thank you
What a fucking moron
Big words coming from the wing nut who fucked over his “platform”.
No, it's not free speech until we're entirely unable to avoid hearing it, we bots stop trying to suppress his speech by calling him an elongated muskrat, and he freely demands payment to be seen by our own subscribers
Someone here doesn't understand free speech... But only he has a billion dollars, and here in America, our courts discovered that money is actually free speech
cissy
congrats elon on coming out 🏳🌈🏳🌈🏳🌈🏳🌈🏳🌈
When I first saw this tweet days ago I thought it was a fake tweet. Just realized it was real.
Why is this asshole in charge of getting himself dressed in the morning? Not because he's incompetent (he is), but because he's clearly malevolent.
Elon is a fuck nugget.
This dude is a real fuckin tool.
Poor Lord Farq-I mean Elon.
As a gamer, I will forever pray for him when someone tries to steal my jungle only to return to lane.
Interesting, I've only ever seen it mean "not trans"
Agreed. I've no idea what u/vegantomato@lemmy.world is talking about. I'm pretty sure I've personally never seen it used as a slur. What I've seen is people not knowing what it means and assuming it's one of them there evil genders, so maybe some people think it's meant as a slur, but imo that says more about their ignorance than the word itself.
your memory does not serve you correctly. Cis is a descriptor, it just means someone whose body and gender identity match. that's like saying straight is a slur.
May as well call white a slur because, if my memory serves me correctly, people who aren't white almost always use it with a negative connotation describing "white-people" as doing something bad.
/s
Idk, in relevant situations I have no problem calling myself cis. Just because a very small number of people are broadly hostile towards cis people doesn't make the word a slur. Cissy perhaps, but I still say meh to that because I just can't be bothered to be offended by it.
Agreed, but if Elon wants free speech he should allow the use of those slurs. Not that I think that wouldnt be chaotic, but Elon is being hypocritical here
Not sure if we have an agreed definition on slur, so I agree it can be used in an insulting context like a lot of words can be. But I doubt that you are qualified to say almost always, the internet and even just twitter is a big place. If you feel that way, that probably reflects more on the kinds of conversations you see or participate in (not an attack, just I personally don't like reading heated threads and don't use twitter)
The Latin prefix cis- , meaning "on this side of", which is the opposite of the prefix trans- . So a cisgender person is someone whose gender identity matches the sex assigned to them at birth - I.e. someone who is not transgender.
They're value neutral words and are useful words to have. For example, if I wanted to make the point that not everyone who cares about trans rights or gender issues are transgender, I could point to myself, as a cisgender woman.
I see nothing wrong with that
After how he got fucked by Twitter and himself during negotiations, I totally lost respect for this him. A clown with money.
The only people who think cis is a slur are the ones who use trans as a slur.
They think any descriptor but "normal" is a slur because anyone who isn't cis, hetero, and white is seen as lesser by them.
He never claimed to be an absolutist.
Here he is making that exact claim in 2022 before deleting it once it became inconvenient
blue check is a slur 😤
No.
Anyway, how do I report a comment?
Wait a second, this was posted a month ago and has no engagement but I'm seeing it here now?
Nah, its not a slur until the kids on xbox live start using it
But they won't. Calling someone cis as an insult online doesnt have the same impact
Using Cis when using voice will always be confused with Sis, as in sister. That's gonna sound very interesting as a non-insult.
Yeah, my point exactly
I would love to know where that road leads.
"screw you, you were camping and I should have won that, cheater [long rant of slurs]" "Yeah well I bet you're a cisgender. Cis. I bet you're cis" "...what?"
How can it even be a slur? I don't get it. People may use gay or trans or as an insult. But that doesn't make it a slur right. So how this word can?
It can't and that's the joke here
Kids on xbox live are known to throw around slurs to win arguments, especially in cod. Sorry to have confused ya
You're right to be confused, Elon's post is very silly on many levels, one of which being that considering a word to be mean doesn't make it a slur.