My previous house was smart down to nearly every light being RGB Hue. For movie nights it kicked ass to be able to sync the lights in my living room / kitchen to the movie.
The challenge in IoT is the "I". Many companies make cheap products that REQUIRE internet to work and are not going to work longer than a decade in most cases.
When I was designing that house I had made it a point to not purchase any device that was not Zigbee, Z-Wave or Natively compatible with HomeKit which led to a very robust setup that would continue to function even when the internet was down.
If you are dabbling I recommend making the same decision even if you plan to use GoogleHome or Alexa. The HomeKit compatible things usually cost more for a reason.
This decision was made so that we can continue to provide the best possible experience
The best possibile experience is having a single app that can do the whole house, not a broken proprietary app that occupies 200 mb of space on the phone and that takes 5 seconds to start because of its fancy splash screen
Don't understand this, they are actively kicking out customers
Ah yes best possibile experience is this: (from the ars Technica article about it)
"Sadly, this app now displays advertisement at the very top and I cannot find a way to disable it," writes one Play Store reviewer (Google doesn't provide links to reviews). "This is very disturbing and on top of it, it moves my garage opening button out of the visible part of the screen. So to use it I now have to first look at the ads, then scroll down and hope to find my button."
They're not talking about your experience. They're talking about the experience at the CEO's summer house...
That tennis court will not build itself and not for free 😁
The myQ app sucks so much, it doesn’t even have Siri integration or widgets. Plus it’s riddled with ads for their $100 camera.ARE YOU KIDDING ME‽ I’m 1 starting this actively (meaning at every update I renew my review)
Companies should be held accountable for bullshit like that.
My idea goes like this: In order to be able to sell some device you need to deposit its source code and the sources for all updates with the proper authorities.
If you then don't provide updates maintaining
a) security and
b) functionality
of said device, because for example you go bankrupt, financially, or like in this very case morally, all of those sources are released and from then on are open source.
A Deadman switch on the source sounds like an eff thing. I'd support it. Heck, while I was still maintaining a well-used oss app, I'd've wanted a Deadman switch on the signing keys so distro could continue without stress, but the sad fact was no one picked up my project even when I announced its impending doom.
This shit makes me fucking howl with laughter every time. Anyone that expects a device with a vendor supplied cloud connection to not get bricked a couple years after release is a goddamn idiot.
This is the way. At least you can troubleshoot it and it doesn't need an internet connection. The amount of HA users that still rely on outside APIs is ridiculous. I won't run anything that needs an internet connection to work, that's the litmus test.
This is why I hate depending on cloud services for my home automation. The last one on my shitlist is my thermostat. Just haven't gotten around to researching options yet.
Bloody proprietary shit that, fortunately, another fella managed to write a reasonably well-featured HA add-on for. But it still goes via their cloud service, and the problem is it uses a proprietary protocol over 2 or 3 pair wire,. Additionally the evaporative A/C plugs directly into the heater unit, which handles C&C for both appliances.
I haven't ruled out having to separate the buggers out and control each individually. As long as I can find a thermostat that can handle them.
Ecobee has been absolutely amazing for me. I've used both the cloud API and and homekit integration with home assistant flawlessly. Note: homekit was a bit annoying to first set up, especially without an iPhone. As a bonus, I see my power company offering discounts and rebates on them all the time.
I have an ecobee 3 that I've been using for about 7 years now. It works reasonably well. But I didn't like that eco+ or whatever they called it that they rolled out to everyone a while back.
Is there a thermostat logic add-on for HA that would replace the ecobee? I know I could program it with scripts and such but it'd be nice if there was some kind of "smart thermostat" module that could use the temperature sensors from around the house and learn the characteristics of the HVAC (how long does it take to heat/cool for a given outside temperature, for example, and take that into account when hitting a programmed set point) and maybe even integrate multiple sources of heating or cooling. (We have a pellet stove for supplemental heat that the HA could fire up, for example.)
Fuck chamberlain so much. We have Gates from them which were (wrongly) opened by hand. Inside of the swing arm was only a broken plastic clutch which could easily be changed to a new one. But chamberlain will not sell any spare parts whatsoever. We tried 3d printing the part but I didn't manage to draw the teeth 1:1 so Motor load was higher than the controller allowed and stopped it.
Well, I swapped over to ratgdo instead of API access a couple months back, seems I pulled that trigger at the perfect time.
Fuck them though. It costs them the same whether you’re using the mobile app, or direct API calls, in fact it likely costs less. They are literally just after money.
I bought 2 of them, on backorder, a few weeks back after the HomeAssistant integration broke yet again. I can't wait to get them in and get them installed so I can get my automatons working again.
Also, they are shutting down the public API from my understanding, not the ones that are sold by 3rd parties like Honda and Tesla that will still continue to work to open/close the door. So, they are pretty much going full reddit at this point.
Dude the swap is amazing. No more beeping and flashing, precise opening/closing percentages, no lag time with api communication, or downtime when the myQ servers go down. It is such an amazing improvement. Night and day to even the official app, even if you wanted to just replicate what it already does.
The one thing I wish I could do however, is access my camera from home assistant. I didn’t realize it was so locked down when I made my initial purchase, I just thought it would be similar to my ring doorbell. (Another piece of tech I’m planning on replacing, actually.)
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I bought gocontrol units for my dumb garage door openers and had to build a relay system to get it to work with the intelligence wall plates as they were not just shorting out to trigger the door.
But it should work with any new non smart opener if I wanna stay away from proprietary crap
I have an intelligent 2.0 door, but I noticed that the mechanical switch on the wall controller is a simple contact switch on the PCB. The 12v “smart” wire cames out of the PCB to the motor. So I.a solder two wired out of that switch and it should work.
As someone who maintained an API, 80% to 90% of my time was discovering that hackers were attempting an exploit, blocking it, adding monitoring, building abuse prevention. After we shut our API off, we could turn services back on, especially free services that we only took away because hackers.
Not to mention the support volume. More than half of our support calls were, "Why did you suspend my account? I'm a poor old grandpa. I want to appeal." Okay, yep we looked into activity and you sent 50000 requests in less than a minute and that's all you ever did with this account. Did you know hackers lie and will spend hours getting tech support? You go to school to be an engineer to build cool stuff and instead field bullshit support requests all day from people trying to destroy the thing you want to build so they can maybe make thirty bucks and cost you tens of thousands. It sucked the life out of me and turned me eternally cynical.
Sounds like working at a small company isn't for you. We have dedicated tech support and a team that works with them for this kind of stuff. Abuse of our APIs does happen, but it's usually automatically blocked or causes enough traffic to trigger our alerts and gets manually blocked.
This isn't an issue with hackers though - this is people legitimately using the devices that they paid for with Home Assistant and other automation systems.
Well, I'm quite happy with the timing on purchasing a pair of ratgdos for my two openers. I'd highly recommend for anyone looking for local only control without the myQ bullshit.
Even with the extra cost of shipping to Canada, they're still worth it.
Anything new I buy has the ability to directly talk to homeassistant without a third party. Zigbee, zwave, ip. If its cloud it can fuck right off, I don't need it.
Many brand names are using these protocols to talk to their bullshit hubs that then send your data out of your network. I've got a hodgepodge of stuff like samsung sensors, Ikea switches, ip cameras and all kinds of stuff.
It isn't even that hard to set them up. HA can detect most devices on the network and recognise them.
Why does one need to connect everything like this? The only connected system (besides computers/entertainment ) I have in my entire house is a security system. What benefit is there to all that other stuff? Doesn't it add quite a bit of cost?
Garages just need a momentary dry-contact switch wired up where the button is (or you can get a ladder and place it closer to the motor).
I use a Sonoff 4CH Pro which could do up to 4 garage doors. Surely there are other dry contact options, but that's the one I use.
It's flashed with Tasmota, and each switch is set to stay on for a fraction of a second, like a button press.
For sensors I use z-wave door sensors. The magnet is taped to the door, and the sensor is installed above it. I copied and pasted some yaml from somewhere to make Home Assistant display everything properly. It's pretty slick!
This is in my covers.yaml file (referenced from config.yaml, of course).
I got two ratgdo modules in the mail yesterday. Hooked ‘em up last night and it was super straightforward. I disabled the built-in WiFi on the MyQ openers and they’ve been working excellently last night and today. No regrets!
I used a Shelly 1 pulled into home assistant. Works perfectly. Very simple for opening and closing. I am building an ultrasonic sensor using esphome that I’ll use to know how far the door is open. Currently I just use Zigbee contact sensors. Open or closed.
Funny story... I switched to Home assistant from custom software I wrote when I realized I was reverse engineering the MyQ API for the 5th time and really didn't feel like doing it a 6th. Just ordered some ratdgos.
I'd never heard of ratgdo before, pretty interesting setup. I have two gocontrol units I had to modify to work with my non door bell type wall units. I had to put a relay between the gocontrol and my opener button on the wall unit because it wouldn't trigger the doors. The ratgdo would up my game with light control.
It's a bit finicky. If I open the door through home assistant, it prevents me from operating the door through the manual opener until I click twice. Otherwise, local opener has no power. Not sure if I installed it incorrectly.
I don't know if my opener has the dry contacts required to make a solution like this work. I'm not keen on hacking the remote or anything. I might have to replace the opener before I have the right contacts to use something like this..... which might be the plan, I'm going to take a close look at the specific unit I have and find the model and manual tomorrow, and see what's in the manual before I do anything more....