Olympics organisers moving towards blanket ban on transgender women from women's sport
Olympics organisers moving towards blanket ban on transgender women from women's sport
The development comes after a presentation to the International Olympic Committee by its medical chief, which highlighted the potential physical advantages of competing in women's sport after being born male.
In many sports it already is
'cause I know I feel welcome, and not completely othered and invalidated when I'm forced to play on a team that is otherwise entirely men, whom have athletic advantage over me
We're only a matter of time from a sporting regime where it's just broadly "open" to a level bordering on chaos, and it's the only thing that is going to keep people watching.
The "should trans people compete" debate is going to be overshadowed by the "should people with extra hearts and enhanced organs be allowed to compete" debate.
The idea of "preserving fairness" in sports is wild when you think about it. Nothing about sports is "fair" you only succeed by getting an unfair advantage over your opponents, we just like to delude ourselves into thinking that because we set some kind of parameters around this capability to gain an advantage, that it's "fair."
They should also ban tall people from playing basketball. They have a potential physical advantage over short people.
No, they should get rid of men/women split and divide people into tiers. Each athlete would be assigned to tier based on his performance and we would have gold, silver and bronze medals in each tier. We would then say "Phelps won a Tier A gold medal in the Olympics" or "Williams won Tier D gold medal". This way it would be 100% fair and non-discriminatory.
Weird how it's only about trans women and never trans men.
I don’t think it’s that weird. The men’s competitions don’t forbid anyone from competing if they can qualify. Cis women are allowed, and in some cases have competed in men’s sports, such as hockey. Men’s divisions should more properly be called “open” divisions.
I see ... Although they are not called that, are they. So now you're accusing the organizers of basic incompetence or dishonesty. Which is it? ... And if either of those is accurate, it raises other questions, too.
Don't (most) transmen inject/otherwise take testosterone? That would be doping if a cis man did it. So I do think there's an argument there (not really any better than the argument against transwomen in women's sports, in both cases imo hormone levels just need to be monitored and you can have pretty much equal competition).
I also think at the top level it's not entirely invalid to say you don't want people with heavily modified bodies competing. Anything that isn't either the global top level or professional I find it completely ridiculous though, the level is just so wildly variant that any tiny advantage potentially gained from that is negligible anyway.
But also everything I know about the science behind it tells me trans athletes are completely fine (in trans womens case after some minimum time or HRT) because as it turns out hormones kinda determine everything about your body.
They'll just force them to compete against women, then when a trans man wins, it'll be sold as "man pretending to be woman steals medals from women", then extend the whole trans ban.
Sometimes it's trans men, too. https://thetyee.ca/News/2025/11/10/Changed-Rules-Shut-Trans-Bodybuilder-Out-Competition/
Fuck the Olympics. It's corrupt, it's full of cheaters and gamblers, and now more bigotry.
They don't give a fuck about fair competition so that's irrelevant. This is just bigotry.
There are none. That doesn't stop bigots from pretending trans women on estrogen have any advantage.
Of theres one thinf I know about babies, it's that about half of them are born strong
you clearly dont know what youre talking about
This is just an excuse to attack trans people under the guise of fairness. It's horrible
This is an excuse for the Seven Mountain Mandate to "save people who wouldn't otherwise understand from hellfire".
boycott the olympics then
Another reason to
If it wasn't for the culture wars, it would be another Oscar Pistorius situation. Not the murder, the prosthetics.
For those who don't know this guy was a runner whose legs were amputated, and he got replacement prosthetics that made him as good if not better than runners with natural legs. There was some debate if his disability actually gives him an advantage, if it should be allowed at all.
And proceeded to shoot his girlfriend on valentine's day.
Blindly, through a bathroom door. Reading about that fucked me up.
Right, but before he became a murderer he was an inspiration to many people.
The news of his trial hit many people like a punch in the gut. How could such an inspirational person commit such a horrible crime? It was one of the worst feelings of betrayal experienced by the public.
The Olympic committee has had well established rules on transgender athletes for decades. This change is ridiculous. They might as well go back to chromosomal testing for athletes. It makes as much sense as this nonsense
I think a lot of people are going to boycott these Olympics. The trump regime doesn’t deserve to host.
Even the reporting is biased; trans women aren't born male.
What? I'm confused. Are you talking about how not all trans women are born males, that we have been women all along, or is this some new grammar I'm missing?
I'm saying trans women are women. They might be born with xy chromosomes most of the time, or they might be born with a functioning penis and testes most of the time, but they are still women.
It's why we say "assigned male at birth" instead of "born male".
Edit: I'll clarify this even further by reminding everyone that being trans is not a choice, and most -- if not all -- of the current science shows that being trans is the result of fetal developmental changes of the brain in the womb.
What!?
Or maybe trans women athletes just want to ... compete in athletics? If you look at how successful the extremely small number of such athletes are, you will find that they succeed at completely normal rates.
Someone once pointed out to me "Oh but what about this one?" to which I replied, "Ah, so trans women athletes are only a 'problem' when they succeed."
tl;dr: Go fuck yourself.
This person above me literally thinks that people are willing to go through with making permanent changes to their bodies just to cheat at sports or be pervs in bathrooms or some shit and not to, you know, have their body match who they really are more closely.
At the time when Oscar Pistorious was competing, there was an actual conversation around the fear that people would get their legs amputated so they could get prosthetics like he had if it would gain them a competitive advantage. No one actually knew if his prosthetic legs gave a real advantage because there was no way to do a comparison without having a real athlete go through the amputations.
If you look into the scene around body building and the extreme lengths people go to with steroids, extreme diets, dehydration and more, it doesn’t seem all that implausible that some people would transition in order to gain a competitive advantage. Heck, some people deliberately get their legs broken in order to stretch out the bones just so they can be taller (no competitive reason). That’s an extremely painful process undergone for less extreme reasons.
There is no actual advantage, they are restricted from competing for 2 years after transitioning, and any advantage is already lost during the first year.
Basically, the problem was already solved decades ago. Since that 2 year period was implemented, there has -provably- never been a case of unfair advantage. Any of the ones hitting the news lately have all been disproven.
Anyone still trying to push for it now has not actually looked into it and believing disinformation spread by, at best ignorant people and at worst hateful people.
No one transitions with regards to how they will perform at sports. People transition for themselvrs, and some percentage of people also like competing at sports. They don't want to never be able to compete again due to random unrelated or unaffected people not knowing they don't have an advantage.
That is why people that say dumb stuff like you are doing, get downvoted. Please actually look it up, instead of just guessing and being another spreader.
If people are explicitly transitioning for that reason, sure. They transitioned years ago and have worked through the actual process of training in a sport they love: fuck them, I guess. A woman that has too high levels of natural T: Get outta here! Someone complained that you are cheating: hit the road!
This is the rhetoric that right wingers push, and is just a dangerous fucking road to travel.
Seriously. Imagine thinking that someone would put themselves through that kinda endocrine disruption, societal scrutiny/isolation, just for a trophy. I'm assuming from context clues homie said something along the lines of "what about dudes that transition so they get a competitive edge?"
If you knew any trans people you would realise just how fucking stupid what you wrote is.
Ignorant, hateful, ignorant, fearful, ignorant.
Just, really shitty and deeply misinformed.
Trans men are okay then? Sick, as long as the freaks don't see them they're safe
Sooo....
-Trans athletes form their own leagues. -Other athletes start competing because they go where the competition is and/or ideological reasons. -Olympics slowly become irrelevant.
Good job, Olympics.
I will remind everyone that as of 2023, about 3% of 18-24 yr olds identified as transgender. That's a lot of people, and that percentage is only going to go up.
Do trans women keep placing number 1 during competition?
No, but there was that fuss last year at the Olympics because some of the boxers looked manly. They weren't even trans, incidentally, not that that little fact ever made the headlines or the Facebook groups.
Who fucking cares about this irrelevant pissing contest anymore. It's all politics and doping scandals, what does the undercarriage have to do with ANY of that? Why would anyone even aspire to even compete in this in today's world.
You should want to abolish the premise of womens sports that's progressive, otherwise you are admitting women should be in leagues of their own.
To give everyone some perspective on the BS behind these transphobic bans: professional darts and professional chess both have trans bans. It's never been about fairness in sports
Well well well, so much for being inclusive. Fucking pricks
Watch them ban transgender women and clowns like JK Rowling STILL accuse cis women in the Olympics of being trans
I mean they still say that about Imane Khelif so