men aren't men anymore

Ugh, and this indoor plumbing and daily hygiene is such a chore.

Rich guys wearing really dour clothes is actually a relatively recent phenomenon in history. Up to the French Revolution the aristocrats were peacocked up to the max; maybe it was fear of the guillotine that saw their successors going around in North Face jackets.

It is still happening, just more metaphorically, so less people can catch it.

I’m wearing awesome socks. Those are anything but boring!

Ladies, What's stopping you from dressing like this
I am an 1,87m tall, somewhat broad shouldered dude over 40 with a bit of a beer belly and a beard (imagine a stereotypical lumberjack but working in IT)... what is stopping me dressing like that? Well... i don't want to see people around me clawing out their eyes.
- Be the cognitohazard you don't want others to be!
- Coward, do it anyways!
- The only thing separating you from crossdressing decently is shaving and wearing makeup right. And with the beer belly and broad shoulders just avoid tight clothing.
Having a career. At home though, nothing :3
I don’t have breasts like that
- Not with that attitude!
I'm more of a summer/spring in my color scheme
My penis would dangle out the bottom of the skirt.
- There are ways to tuck.
- Like a real Scotsman.
- being a shower must suck
...hormones and time, mostly: i haven't been able to pull off that look for thirty years and trust me when i say that you wouldn't want to see me try...
I'm a bear built, and even though I just bought a skirt. I'll never look cute like that,
- Don't underestimate the power of makeup. Ask a female friend for help.
- Don't under estimate the power of the combo of tiny skirt thicc thighs.

Dude on the left pulls it off, dude on the right does not, imo.
- Is it the wooden teeth?
- This is an absolutely hilarious episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Worth a watch! :D

I think they dropped a word there. I think "rich" was the word they dropped......

that's a part of it, however during the Victorian time. it became fashionable for men to be stoic and boring. that's why a guy can wear the same outfit for a meeting, a wedding, and a funeral.
although wealth is a big factor. it isn't the whole story. a good suit can cost a lot and still be fashionably bankrupt.
And if you try to put some flare, they will question your sexuality and distupt the corporate dynamics.
- Tbf, that (dress dark and be boring) was probably due to all the opium/morphine they were on.

Pretty sure only aristocrats dressed like that.

And wasn’t the makeup to hide chlamydia / syphilis etc?
- I think it's also for the opposite? I mean, the white face, rosy cheeks and red lips were popularized due to the romantization of tuberculosis. The guy on the left could literally have tuberculosis looking at his face.
  One of the many sources: https://historycollection.com/tuberculosis-became-the-victorian-standard-of-beauty/
- Sure and perume was becase you didn't bathe ... And yet we still use both
- The powdered wig served the same purpose.
Like all things it started with them and then gained popularity through all social classes.
- and then the french revolution happened...

See good buddy that's why you buy yourself thrift.

I wear suits that cost me 20 bucks that look better than what the president wears. Not that that's a high bar, but a worthy comparison.

Well you're probably younger and more fit and wearing stuff that's five years out of date instead of thirty five.

There is absofukinglutely nothing stopping you from dressing like that, only yourself.

They might try to stop you.
- As the saying goes, "no gentleman was dressed without his sword"
- Yeeeesshhhhhhh
- They will fail to stop you.
society, jobs, and weather?
- Those are bourgeois categories
Don’t let the prospect of beheading get on the way of your dreams!

Don't you ever insinuate i have boring socks ever again.

Some people do loud shirts, I do loud socks.
how long does it take for your toenails to dig though them?
you might call that boring.

Ah yes, the Great Male Renunciation of fashion

Flügel asserted that men "abandoned their claim to be considered beautiful" and "henceforth aimed at being only useful".
Meanwhile, still waiting on 99% of men (or all humans, really) to start being useful.
- I'll give you a full rebuttal as soon as I'm done reaching the top shelf and unscrewing the lid of the pickle jar.
Fashion??? In this economy?!
- Idk what you're talking about, used clothing is both the most affordable and the gaudiest. I love it.
- If I could suit up like in games that actually have good clothing options and don't punish you for just getting every option I totally would, but for better or worse I settle for tattered hand me downs from my uncle that I have been wearing since I was 7 or so. And some hand me ups from my younger siblings that became bigger than me as a top up to the supply.
That's was really interesting

Mark Zuckerberg, who dresses pretty much like the guy on the right, then adds a watch worth $100k to indicate his status.

The pants shirts an hoodies the ultra wealthy wear are also often obscenely overpriced versions of the normal clothes. Like Luis Vuitton's plain tshirt, with a same color embossed logo on the front, for 700$. Or this one by Prada for 2500$ (its casmere)
- I legitimately do not understand

wasn't the make up meant to hide the lesions and wigs to hide the peeling scalp and hair loss?

Those lesions and hair loss were usually caused by syphilis which was considered wildly scandalous at the time.
hair loss
... maybe we should bring back pompous wigs.
- i also want to bring back balding friendly hair styles, which were popular across many cultures in the past, so much so that it was common for people to shave their heads to achieve it. look at traditional Japanese hair cuts, or European monks.
  on paper they'll say there's a reason for that. but I'm being the style came first, then they justified it. because if they didn't like it in the first place, they wouldn't have done it and created reasons for them.
yhea but that still doesn't explain the colourful detailed outfits.

Noble vs peasant.

Maybe we have grown out as a society of that childish one-upping each other with made up rules?

Please tell me there’s a /s in there somewhere.

I do find it weird there's been this resurgence of fixation on superficial motifs being associated with masculinity, but the guys who parrot these views all have an appearance that screams, "I want to blend in and be invisible!"

Nothing masculine about tepid conformity.

Nothing masculine about tepid conformity.
A yearning desire to be indistinguishable from one's peers and find acceptance in the tribe is peak toxic masculinity.
- ~~Fragile~~ masculinity.

Wooden teeth, life's a beach.

Call me a sissy but t-shirt and cargo pants for life!

Yep! Form follows function, hence, I need my pockets. XD

The “now” person is a peasant, not man. Put some eyeliner on, at least!

frankly, im not sure what point this stupid meme is trying to make.

That enforcing gender norms is stupid.

Try it, you get lots of shit. I'd know.

The title is implicitly responding to someone who thinks, "fashion is an important part of masculinity, and it's immutable," but has nothing to say to someone who thinks, "fashion is an important part of masculinity and can change."

Tbh men like me are a step away from becoming cats and I would love to just be a cat. Every step we do that progresses men becoming cats is fine for me.