Newsom says he’ll ‘instantly’ cut funding at California colleges that sign Trump pact

It’s a beautiful thing to see my state leading the charge against MAGA. I’m sure a few other western states will join us when we inevitably break off.

Of note, I was just telling my wife while we were out for a drive last weekend how much I’ve seen our state flag appearing on peoples homes now. Before Trump people in California rarely if ever displayed the Cali flag, but now I see it everywhere, especially in neighborhoods that typically didn’t have them before.

It is inspiring.
But I really wish we'd step up here on the East Coast. NY, MA, NJ, VT. All should be right out in front with you, but aren't.
- They have that new North East or New England health pact thing! They’re working on stuff, but I think they’re rightfully taking stock of what areas they can afford to hit back on. California can basically take care of itself so we have a lot less to lose if the feds try to shut us down.
- There’s a lot of old money up there. And if I’ve learned anything through 2 of his terms, it’s that money is willing to vote against its seemingly better judgement for a few dollars more of a tax break.
- I can't wait until y'all just balkanize already; I'm sure that when the dust settles, some parts of the former United States will be worth visiting. Until it happens and actual names are picked, I've been calling your chunk New New England
It’s a beautiful thing to see my state leading the charge against MAGA. I’m sure a few other western states will join us when we inevitably break off.
Damn straight. Proud Californian.
Millions will die in a war before the U.S. let's California go anywhere. If California split from the U.S., the U.S. would start to default on all of the loans without forcing large amounts of the debt somehow onto California. Not to mention the number of military bases and equipment that exists there, the entire western seaboard would be considered a security threat.
- Maybe, but freedom is worth fighting for.
  Also, remember that during the revolutionary war the French provided support. I’m sure there are lots of countries that, in a civil war, would join with California in providing defensive equipment and offensive weapons. We’re also 10% of the US population with a whole mountain range providing protection and desserts between us and the rest of the “mainland.” So logistically we’re covered very well if we really have to.
  They can consider us whatever they want as long as we’re winners I don’t care.
- The USA wouldn't have a western seaboard if California and the western states secede
- also thats where the SEALs train for enlistees corondo, yea they arnt letting it go.
The Trump Regime is basically Caesar's Legion, but dumber. NCR all the way!
- wasnt the whole point of the NCR about showing this dinosaur of an organization failing to adapt to the new state of the world, trying in futility to carry on under the old rules that lead to the worlds annihilation in the first place, repeating the same mistakes over and over while things are were now even less sustainable/forgiving....
  meanwhile the ceasers legion was harsh but fair, ceasers territory didn't suffer bandit attacks any longer because ceasers legion when to great lengths to exterminate them and insure the conditions where they flourished didn't exist
  bethesda just fucked em on dev time so they had to cut all content on ceasers side of the river

This attack on our universities from the radical right wing is especially worrisome.

Worrisome, sure. It's step one in any anti-intellectual movement.
Can't have smart people because smart people will undermine you every step of the way. They're doing it now.
- They've been doing it for decades. We're on step 6 or something.
The name of the resistance should be "fuck you, no."
The funny thing is that this cycle of ego-fueled ignorance is precisely why they need so much immigration. It isn't a numbers game, it's about the people with the qualifications, and you have a lot less to choose from when you filter them by your own extreme nationalistic and regressive ideology.

Wish Democrats in the House and Senate could also do something...

They filibustered a bill that would've cut medicaid funding and shut down the government. The filibuster is literally all they have because voters gave Republicans a trifecta
- I also wish they would call for protests over some of the heinous things. Break through with messaging. Make it clearer what the Republicans are doing. Some credit is due, though.

There are a lot of things I despise about Newsom, but at least he's standing up to the MAGA scum.

hes a leader, he must be criticized, even if you support him. but it's good that ge is standing up to maga.

This is the way.

Why does California need the USA?

This is the wrong question. Instead of implying that California should secede and become independent one should flip the question and ask the same thing about Texas. If Texas seceded the U.S. would likely never have to cater to the Republicans again.
- Yeah, but imagine living next door to such a shitty neighbour?
California is imprisoned in the USA

Can we fucking secede already?*

*I'm not even sure how much of that statement is a joke anymore.

No, let's just cut out the cancer. We keep the rest of the US together.
- Better idea: the Union should be preserved at all cost. We will not abandon our fellow citizens to being enslaved and persecuted by MAGA scum.

I don't know anything about Newsom, but I do know that I like his current strategy.

He’s a slimy, self-serving, two-faced neoliberal villain.
But right now, he’s the villain we have to team up with to fight a much, much, much worse villain. Just don’t forget that he’s not our friend and would happily burn us all alive for some modest corporate kickbacks.
- He's only opposing fascists because his attempt to join them failed. He's trying to walk a thin line of not pissing them off too much and getting them to think he's worth recruiting. He'll join them if they offer.
- Oh, I think he'd hold out for fairly massive corporate kickbacks. He knows what they can afford.
- He doesn't seem so bad to me
The epitome of limousine liberal.
Completely owned by Big tech and VC.
Everything he's doing now is for his presidential run, but that doesn't mean there's no value to any of it.
At this point, we'll take what I can get, and he knows that.

Why are colleges receiving state funding at all?

Don't they charge insane tuition fees?

Are you thinking of Universities? State colleges are generally extremely affordable, particularly with aide if it is available to you.
- For some values of "extremely" maybe. Also many "state schools" are universities, so you probably should have gone with "private universities" instead. State schools are still an order of magnitude more expensive that most universities in Europe. If I was of school age now, I'd likely not be able to afford to go to college even with the scholarships that I had received.
they specifically called out “CAL GRANTS”, which are student aid. It’s not direct funding, but helping students pay for college.
I’m sure there are tons of research and other programs that directly benefit the state, and are supported by the state
- does that mean, that he's threatening the students and not the colleges?
  like it's the students who will suffer?

California should leave the union and become new California republic with the two headed mutant bear flag.

This dude is doing exactly the same shit as trump and y'all are cheering... Jesus fucking Christ

"both sides the same" lololol fuck off with that Nazi bullshit. One side wants education, medical and freedom for all, one wants you to get on your knees and present papers.
Yea, why doesn't Newsom just keep doing the exact same shit that got us here. Decorum over freedom, right?? We may be locked in prisons but we'll have the moral hight ground!
Fighting fire with fire sets the whole neighborhood ablaze, sure, but this isn't fire with fire. The current administration cut support and sent Marines in to patrol US streets. Newsome should punish those who cooperate with federally sanctioned hostile forces (don't kid yourself, as a marine I can tell you we are only deployed against hostiles) but this measure doesn't even explicitly punish. He's just not supporting the supporters.
Because going high when they go low has been a totally winning strategy for us up until this point, right?
I'm all for using political avenues to fight a tyrant as first resort rather than mandatory evacuations and screaming orphans and rounds flying.
They can play all the lowdown dirty pocket-sand political games they want if it prevents a civil war boogaloo scenario and involves less dead people.
I think Jesus would be flipping some tables right about now.
- Is that what this is? Is Newsom flipping tables?
  Around 800,000 Israelis live rent free with universal healthcare and education on stolen Palestinian land on your dime, your government is borrowing money from China to send to Israel to finish their US taxpayer funded genocide, and you're comparing a guy who fully supports that to Jesus flipping tables because he's threatening to cut funding to schools in his state?
What do you think is going on here?
Id rather a governor do that shit than the president.
JFC, anyone with more than 3 fucking braincells to rub together can plainly see he's ridiculing Trump.
Trump hates being laughed at because he's a thin skinned little bitch.
In case you haven't noticed, Trump won.
- So we should just keep using fascist tactics cause they work??

The goal is to shut down higher education for the masses. So it's not really the best strategy.

Maybe I was wrong about Gavin

Is fighting fire with fire and making threats the right approach? The ones who have the most to lose here are the kids. They picked where to study before any of this came to a head.

No, of course, capitulation and servility are the only possible response to bullying.
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Yes, people need to stop kowtowing to this administration. If more people did, they'd have no power.