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The Worst ICE Agents Are Coming | Tens of billions of new dollars plus a rush to hire 10,000 new agents equals a disaster in the making

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The Worst ICE Agents Are Coming

For all the Trump administration’s talk of saving money and increasing “government efficiency,” the president demanded that huge amounts be appropriated in the Republicans’ recent budget bill to fund his mass-deportation program.

In all, $170 billion was set aside to be spent over the next four years for border and immigration enforcement. This total includes $45 billion to create a sprawling detention system (nearly five times the annual budget for the Bureau of Prisons), $30 billion for ICE operations, $46.6 billion for more border wall construction, and, as if that weren’t enough, a new $10 billion border patrol slush fund.

This level of funding is unprecedented. ICE is now the highest-funded law enforcement agency in the country. And that fact raises a question: What exactly are they going to do with all that money?

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The Worst ICE Agents Are Coming

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Disaster in the making? It's already a fucking disaster. ICE agents have been granted additional slack above and beyond that already extended to normal cops, who frequently abuse it. This is going to be a fucking American Kristallnacht for Latinos, with more groups set to follow in the wake of these broad constitutional and legal abuses.
- it's true that our current situation is a disaster. it does not diminish the fact that an even bigger disaster is being constructed while we process and attempt to repair this disaster. the old ice agents are bad, evil, and cruel, but they were also all recruited under a different framing of what ICE is supposed to be. the new ones will have absolutely no compunctions, no reservations, and no hesitations.
  
  They were recruited to round up brown people, whom they regard as criminal. That's true of the new group and was true of ice and cbp agents recruited under previous administrations.
- Yup, combined with the EO from Friday allowing for involuntary civil commitment, more and more people outside latinos are going to start disappearing. I'm just waiting for them to consider having liberal views a mental disorder.
  
  They are going to go after trans people.
  Is anyone going to do anything when we start being committed?
  
  Can you elaborate on this more, please? I'm not familiar with EO's declaration regarding involuntary commitment, but if it means what I think it does, it's a sea change. Where did you first hear/read about it, and what was the verbiage exactly?
- This is going to be a fucking American Kristallnacht for Latinos
  And they voted for it.
  Trump or not, this country is in deep shit.
We are going to see some real Abu Graib type shit in no time at all with the culture of abuse and rushed training. But will any of the immovable 40% who voted for this start to question our embrace of cruelty on a national level? Meh...Look at the baubles!
- Yeah, the govt spun the story of Abu Ghraib as being a few bad apples that didn't represent American values. And of course it's bullshit, because it's so incredibly predictable what outcomes you will get from doing things like this. Torture and abuse are American values, because that is what America consistently and repeatedly engages in.
This total includes $45 billion to create a sprawling detention system (nearly five times the annual budget for the Bureau of Prisons)
Now why would they need such a big budget for concentration camps if they're deporting the illegal immigrants? Seems like a big waste to build all those facilities and have them sit empty after the job is done.
Or is it more likely they're going to start rounding up other people too? Trump just announced they're going to go after homeless and mentally ill people. And we know they consider trans people to be a danger to themselves and gay/bi as deviants. We've also seen a rise on attacks against political opponents. Trump even wants to charge Obama with treason.
This is exactly the Nazi playbook from the 30s. And the American public is letting him do it.
- For comparison, the Trump Admin just approved a 5000 bed tent camp at Fort Bliss in El Paso, TX. The contract was awarded to Acquisition Logistics for $1.26B.
  That's $252k per bed. There's easily enough money there to build single family homes for every one of them, and even that would be wasteful. (And yes, even in high cost of living areas, the sheer scale involved would almost certainly bring costs below that number).
  When we say "the cruelty is the point", this is why. There's a lack of other explanations for their actions.
- To not be American and watch this all unfold truly shows us what Americans are all about. Around the globe we've listened for a long time about how dominant they are in everything but when it comes to standing up for themselves and their fellow man, they sit down.
  
  "Land of the Brave"
- They are already constructing a 30,000 bed facility at Guantanamo. The EO was signed, and the $250 million contract awarded, months ago, with absolutely no peep from the media, then or since.
  For context, Guantanamo currently has a capacity for up to about 250 people. The average maximum security prison in America holds around 800-1200 people. The largest prison in America is in Angola, LA, and holds about 8000.
  So this new facility will hold almost 4 times as many as our biggest prison, and about 30 times more than our average prison. Guantanamo is in a remote corner of Cuba, so if they are so hot to deport all the illegals, who do they intend to house there, out of sight of the courts, their lawyers, and the media?
  I suspect it will be AMERICAN political prisoners - media, opposition candidates, protest organizers, loudmouth celebrities, etc.
  
  The joke is that it is supposed to be ready in time for Trump's 3rd term, but they forget to provision the transportation
- Funny fact about a cage, they're never built for just one group, so when the cage is done with them and you're still poor. It come for you.
- Look on the bright side! All this money is going to be contracted out to companies that these new oligarchs control, and by the time they funnel most of the money to their wallet only a handful of new prisons will actually get built. We will have to hope the grift can get in the way of the the new Holocaust that Stephen Miller is planning,
  
  Stephen Miller
  PeeWee Himmler
This is how they will do their kristelnacht (day of the rope)
They are gathering data on all of us
That is what the army is for
- Night of Broken Glass, dude
  
  they're saying america's version will be broad daylight lynchings. he's translating not the german to english, but the nazi to maga
- It's Kristallnacht, Christel has nothing to do with any of this.
...they are paying bounties on extra-judicial arrests...
bounties.
for arrest without trial.
...barring decisive impeachment and conviction in eighteen months, there is no way this doesn't end in blood and fire...
- But but the Epstein files bro just wait for you'll see everyone will confirm for sure again that he's a rapist and we'll defeat facism bro don't forget the Epstein files trust me bro
- This part appears to be untrue
Fine them. Find their families. Publish their info.
- It's too bad a doxxing website for ICE would get shut down easily or the operators disappeared...
  ...otherwise I'd totally create it.
  
  Right? You could even use the domain
  https://icelist.is/
We know what they want to do with the money because we saw WWI and WWII; create an army directly responsive to the president to facilitate ethnic cleansing and usher in eugenics.
- We know what they want to do with the money because we saw WWI and WWII;
  We might. Unfortunately, they purposely stopped teaching this shit to zoomers. And Boomers are a lost cause at this point.
Someone else posted this in a comment thread. Just want to make it more visible....
https://icelist.is/
- I don't get it, it's 1000 pictures of the same dude wearing a different hat.
  
  It's a place to post information. The same hat guy is a generic photo for someone who works for ice but they don't have a personal picture for, just a name.
I wish those of us who stood on "moral righteousness" when voting (in this case not voting) had enough brain power to think about the genocide they helped to trigger back home.
- bUt AmErIcAnS nEeD tO gEt UnCoMfOrTaBlE tO hElP gAzAnS.
  how is this helping Gazans? things don't seem any better to me in the levant
- If you think that's bad, imagine the kind of fuckups who would nominate someone that'd campaign so terribly that they couldn't wipe the floor with him (four times in a row!)
  
  You're not wrong there, the leaders of the DNC are absolute fucking idiots.
  But so are the morally righteous idiots that decided they would help another genocide along while making the genocide they "cared" about worse.
- Don't be silly. They're morons. Of course they'll choose moral superiority regarding a conflict on the other side of the planet before considering the wellbeing of their own nation. Especially when doing so ALSO brings about the worst possible outcome for that foreign conflict they claim to care so much about.
  These people can't tie their shoe laces. Don't expect them to vote more intelligently (or at all) next time around.
It's almost like Trump wants to make his own personal army that takes orders from him alone.
Bad news, they are gonna end up hiring a bunch of proud boys. Also bad news, they won’t do the job right, and we’ll pay loads of money in lawsuits and end up with far too many funerals
- Hmmm 🤔
  First, as if proud boys aren’t already IcE members. Not that I have proof, but I would be very surprised if someone proofed that no ICE members sees themselves as a proud boy.
  Second, wasn’t it clear from the beginning, that with ICE, an American version of SS was created?!
  (For those who don’t know German Nazis and Hitler: SS was the private army of Hitler making sure that nobody attacks Hitler’s ideology from inside)
  History always repeats itself, and it is infuriating…
One of these days these guys are going to be in a shootout and its all going to go south guickly.
- Honestly, the sooner the better. Americans need to be made undeniably aware that this administration and the party that supports it is fine with using lethal force on American citizens. The sooner that wake up call happens, the less entrenched this fascist regime will be when Americans finally decide to act.
- Think the Bundy stand-off, only with live ammunition exchange.
I wonder what measures they'll be taking to filter out a would-be saboteur? Would be really hard if the target is to hire 10k people.
Time to buy firearms and start training.
Help everyone you know purchase firearms and help them train.
Form networks.
- I'm a former gun salesman, and while I don't condone pre-emptive violence, I am happy to advise people about the process of purchasing a firearm and selection of a first firearm for hunting, recreation, or self-defense.
  The biggest piece of advice for a beginner on a budget is to get something affordable but reliable over something overly fancy and expensive. Put the savings on the firearm into ammo for training. A $400 Canik plus a few thousand rounds of training ammo is more effective at making you a good shooter than a $1500 pistol and a single box of ammo.
  I have a $7000 custom precision rifle with a $3500 optic on top. With my years of experience, I can shoot about 1% better than with a $700 rifle/scope combo.
  
  I'm glad you posted this. You are 100% correct. Cheaper, but still quality firearm and a ton of ammo is the best route.
  For what its worth, if anyone has any questions about firearms or how to get started, feel free to ask. I was in the Marines for 9 years and one of my jobs was as a rifle and pistol coach. I dont know everything, but I know somthings and I am still an avid shooter and gun owner.
.308 SBR’s to the rescue.
- .308 is expensive.
  You want to know what else is expensive? Body armor.
  The marines ran into this issue a while back. A lot of causalities were caused by groin shots. The chest armor they were wearing was fine for stopping 7.62, but they’d get tagged in the pelvis and bleed out anyway.
  Now the marines have crotch armor too, but that’s also expensive and uncomfortable to wear.
  Just a little tidbit.
...give it some time, and it'll be death squad. Just plain killing people, cheaper than sending them away.
The GOP-dominated US federal government continues its malevolent efforts to Make America Grotesque AF
hopefully it leads to moles getting in.
- I'm wondering how long until the ICE agents who drag me off are all on H1-B visas.
Can we please start to use the correct term for “ICE”:
American SS
Or just
🇺🇸 ⚡️⚡️
- American SS => ASS?
  
  😯
  Obama after all?!
  (I mean, look at that ass)
We heard from that recording, $10k per arrest/deport.
Honestly if I have no other ways to feed myself and family, I will take it.
- Sure, just don't be shocked if your victim decides "If the only way to defend my family is to blow this fed's head off with a shotgun, I'll take it."
  Probably doesn't end well for that person, but you'll still be dead and distinctly not supporting your family anymore. Hopefully the conservative gofundme can tide them over.
  
  Where can we gofundme the guy with the shotgun?
  
  Honestly, I'd do that for fun if the opportunity presented itself.
  
  I’m sorry I would die that way, better keep finding other ways to live I guess. But I’m even sorrier that a few cases like that will probably feed DJT the third term.
- Times are tough, but that doesn't excuse becoming a fascist's foot soldier. Join a union, organise, protest, fight for a better life, become politically active. You still have the pretence of democracy in America, use it.
  https://www.iww.org/
  https://youtu.be/kvj2WEaFtrQ
  Times are tough, we all could use a helping hand
  \ Troubles weighing on your mind, quickly sinking in this sand
  \ Thinking thoughts about your future, trapped on this hellish land
  \ I heard that death is what happens while you're making other plans
  \ Looking 'round for help, may as well dig the grave yourself
  \ Make your way out of the hole you made, you've got to save yourself
  \ You've got to save your self
  Run, run, run, you ain't never gonna win
  \ Looking right, looking left, or at her, or at him
  \ You ain't never gonna be anything that you wanna be
  \ If you play it safe and place your real dreams under lock and key
  Yeah, no one's gonna help you 'cause this world is so cold
  \ And it likes to make examples out of all the brave and bold
  But you've got to carry forward, can't afford to lose your soul
  You don't look around for help, you've got to do it on your own
  \ You've got to save... your... self
  Fight, fight, fight, just as hard as you can
  \ Change your luck, change your style, change the cards in your hand
  \ I know life's getting peak, it's a mountain to climb
  \ With the worry in your heart and that doubt on your mind
  Yeah, no one's gonna help you 'cause this world is so cold
  \ And it likes to make examples out of all the brave and bold
  \ But you've got to carry forward, can't afford to lose your soul
  \ You don't look around for help, you've got to do it on your own
  \ You've got to save... your... self
  Save yourself!
  
  Well said. You are a very kind person.
- "If I have no others way to [...] I would totally work in the Auschwitz showers".
  Since we're this low on morality I'm sure you can also get a job in the Russian military or in the IDF. Who wouldn't mind stomping on some babies as long as you get some minor checks?
- Honestly if I have no other ways to feed myself and family, I will take it.
  Oh so you're a piece of shit. Got it. Thank for giving us all a headsup, I guess.
- Keep up that enthusiasm. I'm sure it'll look great when you explain that you did it for the money when you're on trial for crimes against humanity.
  When sanity was restored, we hanged the Nazis. Don't think ICE will be any different when the Trump regime falls. "Just following orders" or "I needed to feed my family" are not valid excuses.
  
  I will try stay out of poverty personally, but I doubt trump era may end any time soon. USA economy will only get worse, which makes voters even more xenophobic, and law and democracy are fading fast too.
- Funny fact about a cage, they're never built for just one group. So when that cage is done with them and you're still poor, it come for you.
- Honestly if I have no other ways to feed myself and family, I will take it.
  Found the fascist.
- good thing you and the people who did sign up have other options.
  
  you use the word did, I have to clarify I haven’t done nothing so far. 🤷‍♀️
Brown shirt losers
- Red Hat losers
The ICE agent's comin', the sun's zoomin' in
Meltdown expected, the wheat is growin' thin
Engines stop runnin', but I have no fear
'Cause 'Murica's drownin' and I ... I live by the river
Ok, I have some fear.
Become brown shirts of course, silly rabbit.

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But you've got to carry forward, can't afford to lose your soul