Does anybody else feel dirty when they visit reddit?
Does anybody else feel dirty when they visit reddit?
I don't know man, but I feel like I'm supporting a maniac CEO with every second I spend on reddit.
Does anybody else feel dirty when they visit reddit?
I don't know man, but I feel like I'm supporting a maniac CEO with every second I spend on reddit.
Yep! It feels like I'm in a place I shouldn't be in and that I'm betraying the community simply by being there
Reddit is over for me. I've blocked every one of their domains in my PiHole server, so it is impossible to use Reddit in my house. You can't fight every war, but this war is worth fighting.
You save the World one battle at a time.
I visit reddit to repost to Lemmy. This is the one time that reposting is the right thing to do.
Do you have a workflow so we can do the same?
Yes, but only because my porn reddit account is the last one I have. IMO its counterproductive to delete it since it's clear reddits monetization strategy is anti NSFW. The more of that site is unadvertisable the better.
I feel like a traitor when I do. It has sucked all the enjoyment out of the website.
Yes! And I accidentally upvoted something earlier before I realized where I was. Felt bad.
Yeah, but as my excuse, I limit my visits to NSFW subs.
Ah, so you can feel dirty while you're feeling dirty. I like the way you think
Yes. The recent exodus of decent people is noticeable.
It definitely felt like land of the shills before I stopped going. Just hundreds of random new accounts posting in every community that went dark.
I don't feel dirty. Just sad for the people still over there. At this point I just log in once a day to vote for protest supporter and see what the status is. Then come back to here and Mastadon.
Some of my favorite subs over have gone full toxic and have completely removed my desire to go there. Just total hatred toward being inconvenienced, which is sad on its own that people are so desperate to be submissive. Not understanding that the only reason the protests failed was because they already decided (and then therefore invested in) the protest failing.
Other subs are still voting overwhelmingly to protest in any way possible. But the amount of gaslighting by shills (possible astroturfing) is wild. Every sub has tons of people saying "nobody cares" despite people voting otherwise.
Society is so complex today that anything you do can inadvertently be supporting evil. Most of the electronics devices we use are made in China, so if you are using one to access the internet, you've spent money "supporting" China and by extension, its authoritarian government. Buying food from the grocery store, well most likely you were buying from a large corporation that may have unethical practices. Just wanting to travel without walking? Well now you are polluting the planet. Pay taxes? Well you could be supporting a government that have human rights violations.
Just use an adblocker if you have to use reddit, its not a war crime, but just try to avoid it as much as you can if you want to support the protests.
That's pretty much the defining argument from The Good Place. The world is so complicated now that it's nearly impossible to be fully moral. The only thing you can really do is to do what good you can and try to be better today than you were yesterday.
The other thing you can do is reduce consumption. However you can, to whatever extent you can
Problem is that people who make the argument that the person you replied to make are usually the type to use that philosophy as an all inclusive excuse to not even try, but just continue doing what they're doing and feel ethically justified doing it.
You're right that the world is shades of gray, and not black and white
But in this case Reddit is a separated entity that you can just avoid to not support.
Your excuse makes sense when it's vital services that are intertwined with other vital services that you have to use.
There are alternatives to Reddit.
Yeah, somewhat. It's addicting, though. And some communities haven't made the move to here, yet. So, I'll be going back and forth, for a bit. OTOH, I took the first step to leaving. Premium expired today. I cut the cord! It's not much but I want to support the community in some way. Also, after everything that has transpired, I can't support the actions they've taken. To me, sending them money is encouragement and support to continue what they're doing.
It's very pleasant and peaceful here. Better vibes.
Consider donating what would have been spent on reddit to Lemmy! I'm thinking I might set up a recurring charge like reddit premium was.
If anyone else wanna move their monetary support over to Lemmy, here is the Patreon page for the lead developer: https://www.patreon.com/dessalines
Let's bleed Reddit dry by buying him a coffee :)
echo "127.0.0.1 old.reddit.com" >> /etc/hosts
and never look back
echo "127.0.0.1 old.reddit.com" | sudo tee /etc/hosts
If you're not root
Yup. That feeling is the slow eroding of your principals. Stick to it, Lemmy gets better by the day.
Why would I visit Reddit?
I don't feel guilty yet since I still have RIF - I make it a point to only lurk though. Once RIF is gone, I'm gonna try to use libreddit for question answers and never visit the actual site again. Fuck spez. Greedy little pig boy ass bitch.
No LOL. I use Lemmy, I'll keep using Lemmy. Reddit has some communities that I don't have access to on here... So I use it too. I wish I didn't, but I don't feel dirty. I use adblock anyways so it's not even like I'm giving Reddit any money directly.
Yeah I am deleting my 9 year old account on the 30th.
Despite reddit's flaws it's a great resource for a lot of entertainment,education and the communities can be great. But reddit got too big, too greedy and it's just a matter of time before it hopefully collapses. Those of us moving into fed-space are the early birds.
If you replace the reddit.com part of any reddit link with https://reddit.adminforge.de/, you can browse without giving them any traffic / interaction (for example reddit.com/r/tihi -- https://reddit.adminforge.de/r/tihi)
I only go there to promote Lemmy and see how the reddit dumpster is burning.
Just be aware that you're fueling their data analytics, that they can show that they still have people visiting their website.
I get that. I block their ads, too.
If I really have to visit that page I do it either via cached version or via teddit. Fuck u/spez does not deserve my traffic.
I am hoping for a unofficial api to pop up soon to get the neessary info for now without supporting reddit in a any official way possible. For the dealines, teddit and libreddit work great!
I feel the same and I’m still there. But I try to use the fediverse more and more. I just gotta get the hang of it.
I've felt gross for years, ever since they switched from old reddit to the new trash design. I used old.reddit.com for a bit, but stopped once I saw how much tracking garbage ublock was blocking, even on old reddit.
Before lemmy I was using teddit as a privacy focused frontend for reddit which worked great. But now the API changes will kill teddit so no more reddit for me!
Haven't visited their in like 2 weeks. I won't even click on links that direct there.
For me, it can rot. Haven't even missed it as much as I thought I would.
Money grabbers did me a huge favour.
Same here although I find that doing my best to avoid links attached to Reddit is the hardest part of this. Searching for something online to only see Reddit discussions as the top result knowing full well the answer I want is probably there and yet...I keep searching for alternative links.
I have gone back only to rob my content from a specific sub and post it here. I immediately feel like a scab for giving them 1 traffic. Then I close it.
Absolutely. Trying to make the switch but I think it's going to take a bit for me to fully "cut the cord." Trying to find matching lemmy communities for most of my interests and then planning on deleting everything from reddit.
Once RIF stops working I won't be able to, so really that'll be the big moment.
Same. I'm not using the app ever. I do comment/post here much more often though
Same here, I heard there is a plug in called shreddit you can use before the api changes to nuke your comments. I plan on doing the same right before th shift.
I hVent logged in since the blackout. So no.
Not really, since I'm on 3rd party app and don't see ads. I'm liking lemmy, but the dynamic feed bug is really killing the experience for me. I know it doesn't happen on apps, but I prefer using a browser on my phone for now, until apps mature a bit more at least. This doesn't happen on kbin, but I miss being able to collapse comments like on lemmy.
the dynamic feed bug is really killing the experience for me.
Good thing this will be fixed in the next update!
Currently only using rif occasionally as some subreddits haven't transferred only, otherwise I'm browsing here, but I feel bad.
Don't feel bad. Addiction takes time. It's also been traumatic haha.
Sure is nice here though.
I keep finding Reddit links to things when looking for solutions in my job. It's getting frustrating because a lot of the subs are still closed.
use Google's cache thing, I don't think it lets Reddit earn from you visiting it and content should(?) still be there, I never used it but I heard a few people talking about it so I believe it works
I've always permanently browsed with Ublock Origin on desktop or Apollo on mobile... So they get effectively no revenue from me aside from maybe selling my browsing habits. Either way Ad revenue is likely what's keeping them afloat right now so that helps it feel a little less dirty. Once my niche subreddits are moved over it's bye bye forever
I am enjoying the last 2 weeks of Apollo, Lemmy has exceeded my expectations and I am going to be deleting my Reddit account on the 30th. Quality of Reddit has nosedived in the last two weeks so I don’t feel like I am missing anything.
please dont delete your account.
": if you replace the content of your posts/comments with nonsense, you'll make Reddit Inc. (including its CEO) lose money."
"There's a good chance that those API price changes were motivated by large businesses using Reddit to train their large language models (LLMs) with. Stuff like GPT-3, Google's BERT, Facebook's Galactica, stuff like this. In other words, your content will be used to train bots. (It is, already.)
Those models can be "poisoned" with random, machine generated nonsense. Poisoned data is worse than useless: it makes the model worse. So for each person replacing their Reddit content with nonsense, those businesses will be willing to pay Reddit Inc. less and less for API access."
"Here is a mini-tutorial on how to do this. It's for desktop users but you'll likely be able to do the same from a phone browser.
If you don't like Zompist's gen and/or Power Delete Suite, you can use any generator and/or Reddit mass edition tool of your choice."
and yes, i am somewhat still on reddit but i think i do more against them when my app does not work anymore (to spread lemmy or information) i will follow this process
I made the decision to wipe my account a few days early and monitor it. I'm glad I did, because Reddit has been un-deleting and un-deleting my posts and comments. I've had to re-edit/delete about ~300 comments and ~30 posts since yesterday.
They're un-deleting content that users are choosing to delete, that's disgusting
Did that yesterday too.
I wonder if because I used a fork of PowerDeleteSuite with a 5 seconds delay added (to not trip Redddits' API rate limits) I'm not seeing my posts / comments dug up again by Reddit.
I used edit / overwrite + delete.
yessirmam
Honestly, yes. I don't want to support what the owners of Reddit are doing. A lot of people are not going to leave there though until the place is completely radioactive though.
Yes, it's like me going into a nasty public restroom - gotta do my business asap and gtfo
Totally agree!
I'm using Apollo until it shuts down. Then my only interaction with Reddit will be via old.reddit.com
I feel the same. I feel like the main place to find out if anything is going to happen is on reddit, though... I don't know what I expect to happen besides things to get worse.
I don't.
I haven't visited Reddit since the second day of the whole fiasco.
I haven't taken baconreader off my phone yet because I'm not ready, but I also don't visit Reddit anymore either. I'm pretty happy on Lemmy right now, and I was thinking about giving Mastodon a go.
Tip for Mastodon.
Use an app called Tusky, and then subscribe to #hashtags, by selecting a hashtag and then clicking the plus '+' button.
That's a quick way of getting your feed populated with things you like to see/read.
Been on mastodon for a while but will try this, thank you :)
ngl yeah I do. Specially on r/gonewildaudio.
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...what?
We don't go to Ravenholm anymore.
I feel like going to the Chernobyl exclusion zone every time I had to specifically go in there, not to access content from there (I use libreddit, teddit or archive.org for that), but to check on my accounts (via old.reddit).
What I do is to just do what I need to do, see if any of my posts or comments have resurfaced, scrub them off, delete them (or just use Power Delete Suite for that), and then go back out without any delay. The less time I spend there, the better.
I haven’t been back yet (at least not intentionally; I’ve carelessly clicked some links that opened reddit but I closed them right away.) At some point I do want to go back and see if a couple of my weirder, smaller communities have made any announcements about moving off reddit. If they haven’t/won’t, then I guess I’ll have to learn to live without them. (Arguably the healthier option but what can I say? I’m weak! If I don’t have to give them up, I won’t.)
Don’t know if I’ll be able to bring myself to delete my account. Again I know I probably should, but I really don’t want to for reasons I can’t articulate.
I find myself returning to Reddit just to share links to Lemmy communities and answer questions about it.
Considering the only time I visit reddit is to keep deleting my posts that pop up after I run my deletion script, no, I don't.
It’s joined the ranks of FB, IG and Twit as a site I don’t feel good about using. To be fair, while reddit has discredited themselves a ton lately, the past 4-5 years of ‘new reddit’ has been awful and they continue to get worse, it’s still not nearly as bad as MetaZuck or Elron.
yeah especially a lot of major politics often feels like an astroturf, I haven't been able to feel like I'm debating or seeing legitimately popular things in years over there. I have to be super skeptical because of the powers that be who have an interest in swaying opinion
Yes, i accidentaly open it and then feel very off, then get reminded of lemmy. For some technical info i have to sneak past the front page directly to the specific sub. But the sub is migrating and its coming together better than i had imagined before.
I haven’t been back since the blackout kicked off. I even feel dirty seeing posts about Reddit here and mostly avoid them because I can guess at the content. You can guess how disgustingly dirty I feel actually replying to a Reddit thread here!
TBH, I really wish people wouldn't repost Reddit stuff here. And frankly, it feels like those folks are just addicted to Reddit and can't give it up. I suspect most people are finding posts that were super popular on Reddit and just posting it here to appease their personal upvote obsession.
Like fr, just skip the extra steps and go back to Reddit, theres no need for anyone to shovel Reddit's dogshit over the fence into Lemmy's front yard.
The only Reddit "reposting" I really support is what they're doing over at lemmit.online - and that's because it all stays on their instance, and they use a single bot to do it, so you only have to block a single user to get it all out of your /all feed.
I don't mind browsing the web version with my ad blocker. Before, it was just because I don't like ads. But the icing on the cake now is the knowledge that every byte I siphon off their server costs them something that they will never get back from me
No client anymore, so cannot visit anymore
I still check out a few specialised subs that haven't' made it over here or that I can't find a Facebook equivalent I like yet. One is for our local town and one is for cancer support. I don't feel great about it, but as I used to spend hours a day on Reddit it's a vast improvement. Don't let perfect stand in the way of good is how I look at it. I may just end up starting the cancer patient support ones on my own over here, but I'm hoping someone that knows what they are doing will beat me to it.
Well, yeah. That's why I'm mostly here instead.
My Redditing is down from hours daily to a few minutes, at a couple of specific subReddits with info and news I haven't yet been able to find elsewhere.
I am waiting for the backup of my data there to be ready so I can destroy my history and delete my account, so for a while I've been visiting daily, but after the CEO expressed his love of piece of shit extraordinaire Elon Musk, I have no interest in ever logging on there again.
Yes, also because of all the nsfw content.
I've not visited reddit since Sunday 11th and a week into things, deleted my account. My only issue is when I Google something and can see the answer is on reddit. Happened last night but refused to go there. Found the answer somewhere else in the end.
This is what's killing me too. So many reddit links pop up on Google. I'm hoping there's some sort of extension that can route them through a cache website so I can avoid giving reddit traffic.
I deleted my reddit account yesterday and also try to stay away from web searches that link to reddit. One time i accidentally clicked on a link to a reddit answer and it felt pretty bad. I do miss some of my smaller subreddits and find myself eagerly browsing new communities in the fediverse, hoping that someone started up a replacement. I don't want to become a mod, so i don't want to start up communities myself.
I've already encountered Reddit posts from Google searches that have been wiped. I make sure to submit feedback to Google on those.
I have reddit blocked at the router level (Eero mesh network). It's worked great, they've seen no traffic from my IP since the blackout. I habitually try to visit the site but that block has greatly helped...... until the software glitched and I started seeing reddit - turns out I had to reboot my router and that fixed the issue. But damn I felt dirty accidentally visiting the site again - but I didn't miss it, I could see it had changed.
everytime i open my thirdparty client i remind myself that its stupid to do.. since i need to get away from reddit slowly. it will stop working anyway in a few days so i should rather now distance myself on mobile from it.. but somehow i open it again and again.. so yes. feels bad. :/
Have had a few moments where I've been tempted to open it up, and even that makes me feel grubby.
There are far worse things I have yet to boycott though, so it doesn't feel very balanced to have such a strong reaction to this particular thing.
Will visit in a few days to ensure that my comments have remained deleted and to close my accounts. I gather Reddit has been reinstating content deleted via PowerSuiteDelete and the like. Most of mine were done long before the recent crisis, and overwritten for a while before being deleted, so am hoping that though they'll still have original versions on a server somewhere, it will be too awkward for them to bother making them visible.
May also make a GPDR deletion request. Strongly suspect these companies don't truly respect those, but it does mean they have to be a bit more cautious with relevant data.
Unfortunately I'm visiting on old.reddit every now and again to keep up with sport news. Once the transfer window is over it's goodbye Vienna.
I treat the blackout and what came after (replaced mods, etc) as a strike. I don’t cross picket lines and I don’t support scabs.
No, but my last visit is likely on the horizon
I either use ad-block or the "unsanctioned" RiF app and am only there to watch it die rather than engage
Only delaying deleting my account to give them a fair chance to course-correct before the apps that make it usable shut down (or tweak their codebase to work with Lemmy)
YES.
Rmemeber to use adblock + don't use the default app
Good luck not using the default app next month.
Ez pz. Already use adblockers on everything I own
I go on Reddit when i google something.
meh. i block ads, they dont get much from me. im certainly using it less though
I deleted both my active accounts when the API changes were first announced and have not logged in or made a new account since.
I do own one former reddit account with the same username as this one but it's been suspended for a couple months due to a "security issue". They wanted me to reset my password to a more secure one but I don't have an email linked to that account so I can't actually reset it. So I just deleted my entire comment/post history and will never be logging back into that account.
So for the past couple weeks 100% of my reddit viewing has been while logged out and via old.reddit.com with an adblocker active.
Mainly I was checking reddit just out of morbid curiousity to see how the blackout was progressing and see if spez/admins were gonna say any more laughably stupid shit.
I first started lurking on Lemmy around the same time that I deleted my 2 active reddit accounts and as it has become more active I decided to go ahead and make an account here and give it a proper try. So far I'm enjoying myself and I hope this place continues to grow more as more people abandon reddit.
Thanks - this post made me think to check if there are browser plugins that automatically redirect Reddit links to teddit. There's teddit redirect for Firefox and teddit please for Chrome. Mobile is more difficult but it's a start.
I quit visiting Reddit.
Yeah, I check out the existentialist french cinema shitpost images of women smoking on redscarepod and some buttcoin for the luls, via teddit. Found a decent bud of buttcoin on fediverse and I fully expect to be ready to unceremoniously stop anonymously lurking come July 1st and let reddit digg itself into a shithole.
there are still a lot of subreddit that haven't ported to Lemmy [not porting the entire subreddit with all the post to lemmy]
You can move entire subreddits here all posts included?
You sure can. Details here: https://lemmy.world/comment/325260
It's just become so toxic. I remember when I used to enjoy going to Reddit and it used to make me feel good. It used to make me laugh. Now it's just negativity.
Yea I had to purge a lot of subs because of the negativity taking over. Just moved over and the communities are great here and feels positive so far, just need a bigger user base now. Here's hoping we get more users after the API changes.
I won't go back. I'm a full lemming now.
I just don't visit Reddit. Problem solved.
I could totally see a 70s detective parody movie titled "Dick Justice!". Either that or a point. Either way, it's a winner.
Hah hah, I wish could take credit for it, but it's a Max Payne reference :)
I'm currently using Reddit Enhancement Suite to delete 8 years worth of comments and submitted comments. It's been a walk down memory lane as they all disappear, but it's a good way experience catharsis on the way out the door as all of my stuff that would have been monetized through google search results go poof... First time I've been back since creating my lemmy acct though, and it was more sad than dirty.
If it makes you feel any better, your comments probably aren't deleted and are still in reddits database. A lot of companies just set an 'isDeleted' flag to true/false. So even though the data doesn't show up via the API, reddit still has all the data to sell to clients.
Reddit is for redditors, and we do not belong there anymore.
Thank you Margot Robbie!
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