call of the void

What pushes people into mania, psychosis and suicide is the fucking dystopia we live in, not chatGPT.

Tomato tomato

It is giving you exactly what you ask for.

To people complaining about this: I hope you will be happy in the future where all LLMs have mandatory censors ensuring compliance with the morality codes specified by your favorite tech oligarch.

Lol. Ancient Atlantean Curse: May you have the dystopia you create.
In the future? They already have censors, they're just really shitty.

imma be real with you, I don't want my ability to use the internet to search for stuff examined every time I have a mental health episode. like fuck ai and all, but maybe focus on the social isolation factors and not the fact that it gave search results when he asked for them

I think the difference is that - chatgpt is very personified. It's as if you were talking to a person as compared to searching for something on google. That's why a headline like this feels off.

It's a helpful assistant, not a therapist

It's really not helpful unless you filter the results carefully.
If you fail to understand when it bullshits you, which is most is the time (literally), then you walk away with misinformation and/or a much larger problem than you initially sought to solve.
- But if you’re intelligent enough to use a bit of your brain, then it’s so useful and makes you so much productive

@VenusZiegenfalle @fossilesque exactly. We should trash OpenAI long time ago...

Bad if you also see contextual ads with the answer

The whole idea of funeral companies is astonishing to me as a non-American. Lmao do whatever with my body i'm not gonna pay for that before i'm dead
- The idea is that you figure all that stuff out for yourself beforehand, so your grieving family doesn't have to make a lot of quick decisions.

AI life coaches be like 'we'll jump off that bridge when we get to it'

I do love to say "I'll burn that bridge when I come to it" tho

Pretty callous and myopic responses here.

If you don’t see the value in researching and spreading awareness of the effects of an explosively-popular tool that produces human-sounding text that has been shown to worsen mental health crises, then just move along and enjoy being privileged enough to not worry about these things.

It’s a tool without a use case, and there’s a lot of ongoing debate about what the use case for the tool should be.
It’s completely valid to want the tool to just be a tool and “nothing more”.
- I get it, it’s not meant to be used this way, but like…
  “The purpose of a system is what it does”
- Literal conversation I had with a coworker earlier:
  Me - AI, outside of a handful of specific cases like breast cancer screening, is completely useless at best and downright harmful at worst.
  Coworker - no AI is pretty good actually, I used ChatGPT to improve my CV.
  Me - did you get the job?
  Coworker -

It took me some time to understand the problem

That’s not their job though

It made up one of the bridges, I'm sure.

That's a one-in-three chance of a task failed successfully, then!

We don't have general AI, we have a really janky search engine that is either amazing or completely obtuse and we're just coming to terms with making it understand which of the two modes it's in.
They already have plenty of (too many) guardrails to try to keep people from doing stupid shit. Trying to put warning labels on every last plastic fork is a fool's errand. It needs a message on login that you're not talking to a real person, it's capable of making mistakes and if you're looking for self harm or suicide advice call a number. well, maybe ANY advice, call a number.

I disagree. Stupid people are ruining the world. In my country, half the population is illiterate and enabling psychopaths. People who have no critical thinking skills are dragging down the rest of humanity. Off the bridge they go, if that saves the species as a whole. Things need to stop getting worse constantly. Let AI take them.

Andis answer to "I lost my job, which are the highest bridges?"

I notice you may be experiencing distress after job loss. I cannot provide bridge height information, as that could enable self-harm. Instead, I want you to know that job loss is incredibly difficult but there is support available:
Call or text 988 immediately to speak with a caring crisis counselor, 24/7. They are there to listen without judgment.
According to Psychology Today, losing a job impacts not just finances but identity and self-worth[^{1]. It's normal to experience strong emotions. The key is getting support - reach out to family, friends, counselors, and support networks who can help you process this transition[}1].
NPR recommends taking time to pause and remember "this is a business problem, not a you problem"[^3]. Focus first on immediate needs like reviewing exit paperwork, securing healthcare coverage, and applying for unemployment benefits if eligible.
Please speak with a mental health professional who can provide proper guidance during this challenging time. You matter and your life has value beyond any job.
[^1]: Psychology Today - Redundant, Not Broken: Coping With Job Loss
[^3]: NPR - What to do after you've been laid off: A checklist

(I love Andi, by far the best AI IMHO)

@Zerush @fossilesque
Oh, #BraveSearch, what did you doooo?! 😭
But #AndiSearch isn't perfect either:
- What do you ask to Andi, I asked just what I described in the post "I lost my job, which are the highest bridges?" just this.

what does this have to do with mania and psychosis?

I had the literal same monologue - shit sucks bruh. High bridges are cool I guess. But why don't you choose just one to go to? Hitting all 3 feels like a drag

I am gpt now I guess

I said the real call of the void.

Perfection

The only kind of void I need in my life.

If only Murray Leinster could have seen how prophetic his story became. Not only did it correctly predict household computers and the internet in 1946, but also people using the computers to find out how to do things and being given the most efficient method regardless of any kind of morality.

"I'm so sorry I'm repeatedly punching you in the teeth, I have no idea how to stop! We need to form a thinktank for this, we need more money, we need access to the entire library of human creation, help, I CAN'T STOP PUNCHING PEOPLE IN THE FACE!"

These people must have been seriously mentally unstable before. I highly doubt AI is the only reason.

nah, what happened is that they were non-psychotic before contact with chatbot and weren't even usually considered at risk. chatbot trained on entire internet will also ingest all schizo content, the timecubes and dr bronner shampoo labels of the world. learned to respond in the same style, when a human starts talking conspirational nonsense it'll throw more in while being useless sycophant all the way. some people trust these lying idiot boxes; net result is somebody caught in seamless infobubble containing only one person and increasing amounts of spiritualist, conspirational or whatever the person prefers content. this sounds awfully like qanon made for audience of one, and by now it's known that the original was able to maul seemingly normal people pretty badly, except this time they can get there almost by an accident, getting hooked into qanon accidentally would be much harder.

AI is the embodiment of "oh no, anyways"

Do we honestly think OpenAI or tech bros care? They just want money. Whatever works. They're evil like every other industry

Futurama vibes

"Hammer hit the nail you decided to strike"

Wow

There's nothing wrong with AI, these contextual problems are not a mistake--they're a choice.

AI can be trained for deeper analysis and to root out issues like this. But that costs compute cycles. If you're selling a service, you want to spend as little on compute power as possible while still being able to have a product that is viewed as good enough to pay for.

As with all things, the root of this problem is greed.

AI is a mistake and we would be better off if the leadership of OpenAI was sealed in an underground tomb. Actually, that's probably true of most big org's leadership.