Yes, it's down again

I marvel at the proficiency with which Microsoft tears down every piece of software it touches nowadays.

I'll get downvoted for this, but I think they take good care of github and Minecraft. As for the rest though... not so good.
- If with "good care" you mean "the core functionality is up and running most times", yes
- ... Didn't they revoke the Minecraft licenses people purchased because they didn't manage to migrate their Mojang accounts to Microsoft accounts in a short amount of time?
- I haven’t played Minecraft for a while, but I was under the impression that Microsoft was progressively turning the Bedrock version into a microtransaction hellscape. If I’d have to reluctantly commend Microsoft for anything, I’d rather go for Visual Studio Code.
- Oh yeah, Minecraft fans will tell you just how much they love their handling of it...
- They deliberately removed code search for not logged in users almost immediately. Just recently they removed cloning without an account, so now updating my computer requires signing in to github.
  They have been awful stewards.
Look what they just did to Notepad!!!
MONSTERS!!!!!

My company owns their infrastructure and we don't have issues like this and our production servers are working like oiled machines and yet they want to move to 3rd party cloud services for reasons that have yet to be explained

a brief conversation:
Cloud good, very good for dynamic sizing up and down.
but sir we don't need to scale up and down for our business.
but cloud good.
- I'm worried that when the bean counters see the price difference between AWS and self hosted stuff they'll find AWS more expensive and we will have to deliver a year's work for 10 scaled agile teams again, but in our machines
I'm guess you have a fully staffed infrastructure team team, so the reason that has yet to be explained is that they want to downsize that team.
We use cloud services because we have never had a fully staffed infrastructure team.
The explanation is guys in marketing buying fancy lunches and rounds of golf for the guys in C-Suite (Source: A tired IT admin that has had to talk his management team off of this cliff due to fancy tech demo dinners from unsolicited cloud/software companies)
The fewer magic blackboxes are around, the
(happy variant) easier it is to train new people and the less mental burden there is on existing staff
(sad variant) easer it is to fire people.

Reliance on external services to build and test code is absolutely braindead design

- security none existsnt. Aws security tools used to scream at you every time you open the aws console. Solution at the company was to restrict views to those pages so (most) people don't see the security/vuln reports. To get reports, you'd have to ask cybersec.
  Not going to lie, that is hilarious. And forget red flags, you have a whole squadron of semaphores right there.
- Like I said, braindead
Sometimes our internal CI tools break and I can't build either. I think GitHub actions syntax is actually valid in forgejo as well so I don't really think it's a problem.
It's not like internal build servers are 100% reliable, scaleable and cheap though. Personally I've found cloud based build tools to be just a better experience as a dev.
- Jesus Christ, can you not even conceive of the idea of building on your own machine?

Someday soon: Claude is down

What are you planning? Downing the Dutch songfestival singer Claude? /s

This thread pivots hard from version control jokes into a somber discussion of the future of Minecraft.

I have found my people. You all are amazing.

ackshually you can run most of the CI locally

Don’t tell the boss, jerk.
Doesn’t matter if the mechanism that checks the repo and sends the trigger message to the runner is down.
- how does that affect running the CI locally? I don't mean triggering the cloud CI manually, I mean running the commands manually.

People forget git is a DVCS, you can send PRs to each other without relying on Github.

Wait what
- Yeah dog pretty much everything on the github website is an interface to display info held in the .git folder of the website.
  Thats how theres github, gitlab, gitea, gitlab, forgejo, etc etc. There are even applications you can download to visualize info in git that run on your local machine, and only see youe local filesystem.

Or and I know this sounds crazy, we (I actually mean you) collectively agree on laws that gives everyone a couple of paid vacation weeks a year.

It works on my machine!

Ironically, I find myself writing more code when CI is broken and I don't have to babysit it.